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http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/02/us/california-immigrant-transfers/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants

CNN) -- The national controversy over a surge of Central American immigrants illegally crossing the U.S. border established a new battleground this week in a Southern California small town where angry crowds thwarted detained migrants from entering their community.
In a faceoff Tuesday with three buses carrying the migrants behind screened-off windows, the demonstrators chanted "Go back home!" and "USA" and successfully forced the coaches to leave Murrieta, CNN affiliate KFMB reported.
The buses instead took the 140 or so undocumented immigrants to U.S. processing centers at least 80 miles away, in the San Diego and El Centro areas, federal officials say.
Counter-protesters squared off with the demonstrators, and a shouting match erupted over the nation's immigration system, which recently has been overwhelmed with a tide of Central American minors illegally entering the United States alone or with other children.
A mix of poverty, violence and smugglers' false promises is prompting the Central American inflow.
Unlike undocumented Mexican migrants, who are often immediately deported, the U.S. government detains and processes the Central Americans, who are eventually released and given a month to report to immigration offices. Many never show up and join the nation's 11 million undocumented population, says the National Border Patrol Council, the union representing Border Patrol agents.
The Latin American immigrants rejected by Murrieta protesters were initially held in Texas, where U.S. facilities are so overflowing that detainees are sent to other states for processing.
The government doesn't have the room to shelter the children with adults: there's only one family immigration detention center, in Pennsylvania. To assist the unaccompanied children, President Barack Obama's administration opened shelters last month on three military bases because federal facilities more designed for adults were overrun with minors.
Tuesday's busloads of detained Central American immigrants didn't include any unaccompanied minors, said Murrieta Police Chief Sean Hadden, who put the number of protesters at 125. The children on the buses were apparently in the company of relatives or other adults, said an official with the National Border Patrol Council.
'Deport! Deport!'
The protesters, who shouted "Impeach Obama!" and "Deport! Deport!" confronted the buses a day after the town posted a notice on its website: "Murrieta Opposes Illegal Immigrant Arrival."
"This is a failure to enforce federal law at the federal level," Mayor Alan Long said in a statement Monday about the pending arrival of the 140 immigrants to the U.S. Border Patrol station. "Murrieta continues to object to the transfer of illegal immigrants to the local border patrol office."
The local controversy will continue with a town hall meeting scheduled for 6:30 p.m PT Wednesday. The U.S. government is scheduled to send another group of undocumented immigrants to Murrieta for processing on Friday, the union official for Border Patrol agents said.
Chief Hadden also said he was told to expect 140 immigrants every 72 hours, with the next group scheduled to arrive on Friday, the Fourth of July.
Earlier Wednesday, immigration rights advocates denounced the mayor's statement and the protesters.
"It is deplorable that people espousing anti-immigrant hate language created unnecessary tension and fear for immigrant mothers and their children," Pedro Rios, a community representative of the San Diego Immigrant Rights Consortium, said in a statement. "Even more concerning is that elected officials in the City of Murrieta instigated this tension. Mothers and their children on these buses have suffered through enough trauma."
At a Murrieta City Council meeting Tuesday night, Long seemed more conciliatory than his statement posted a day earlier on the city's website. Long thanked police and others.
"Please remember these are human beings that are fleeing the violence in their home countries," Long said. "The problem is that they need to come into this country the legal way."
Journey from Texas
The U.S. government earlier flew the 140 Central American immigrants from south Texas to San Diego. Federal agents were busing them to Murrieta for processing at the Border Patrol station when the standoff took place Tuesday, CNN affiliates reported.
After the buses turned around, the 140 immigrants were taken to the U.S. Border Patrol's San Ysidro station in San Diego, said Ron Zermeno of the National Border Patrol Council
On Wednesday, Zermeno told CNN that at least 136 immigrants were fed and screened.
Among the group, 10 children were taken to local hospitals, though it's unclear why, Zermeno said. Seven more children were diagnosed with active scabies, an itchy and highly contagious skin disease. Those children are being kept separate from the others at the San Ysidro station, he said. Seventeen of the immigrants were taken to the Boulevard station in eastern San Diego County, Zermeno said.
The U.S. government is struggling to detain and accommodate an influx of undocumented immigrants, particularly a wave of unaccompanied children from the Central American countries of El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras. The U.S. government doesn't have enough beds, food or sanitary facilities.
Authorities estimate 60,000 to 80,000 children without parents will cross the border this year in what the White House has called an "immediate humanitarian crisis."
To help relieve crowded facilities in Texas, undocumented immigrants are now being sent elsewhere to be processed.
But Zermeno contended that processing immigrants, rather than enforcing the borders, is only making the situation worse.
"My concern is they are going to be eating in the same holding cells as someone sitting five feet away using the bathroom," he said.
Intense debate
The furor in Murrieta illustrated the conflict between protecting the borders and ensuring the safety of detained immigrants and children.
Protester Ellen Meeks said the country's identity has eroded with an influx of undocumented immigrants.
"I just wish America would be America again because it's not, and it's not just pointed to the Hispanics," Meeks said. "Everybody needs to go through the legal ways."
Other protesters told CNN affiliate KGTV said they wanted immigrants to follow the legal process to enter the United States.
"Everybody that wants to come to this nation is entitled to, but they should come the right way," Bob Cuccio told the news outlet.
"You bring in all these children and they're going to take over our schools," Bel Reeves added. "What's going to happen to the kids that were born and raised here?"
But immigration rights advocate Enrique Morones likened the migration to a refugee crisis and suggested racial antipathy was motivating protesters.
"If these children were from Canada, we would not be having this interview," Morones said. "The parents have had enough. They are saying, 'If I don't send my child north, they are going to die.'"
Last month, the Obama administration unveiled a plan to spend almost $100 million in aid to Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador to help reintegrate the undocumented migrants whom the United States will deport, and to help keep them in their home countries.
The administration also will set aside $161.5 million this year for the Central American Regional Security Initiative (CARSI) programs in an effort to "help stem migration flows as well as address the root cause of the migration," the White House said.
The Obama administration has accused syndicates in Latin America of waging a deliberate campaign of misinformation about relocating to the United States that has caused people in poor Central American countries and Mexico to risk their lives to cross the U.S. border illegally

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2014, 05:57:13 PM »
See, the whole thing sucks. I feel kind of bad for the people on the buses, as they're just trying to find a better way.

These scenes shouldn't be given the opportunity to happen in the first place.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2014, 05:59:14 PM »
This event may have been the first time these people realized the shit they heard back down south was WRONG.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2014, 06:02:28 PM »
I think of guys like Obama-the-corrupt and the messages he places out there, and it is so infuriating.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2014, 06:14:51 PM »
Good. Send them back. If they want to come over make them go through the process. This is complete bullshit.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2014, 07:11:28 PM »
wait.. so we have the money to drive them a thousand miles but we dont have the money to turn the bus around and just drive it 100 feet back across the border and tell them all to get out?


how exactly is this fair to my relatives and millions of others who try to come to this country legally???


why is nobody asking these questions???

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2014, 08:41:11 PM »
wait.. so we have the money to drive them a thousand miles but we dont have the money to turn the bus around and just drive it 100 feet back across the border and tell them all to get out?


how exactly is this fair to my relatives and millions of others who try to come to this country legally???


why is nobody asking these questions???

These are Central Americans.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2014, 08:48:12 PM »
And BTW, 'legal or illegal' has become meaningless. The lines have been blurred beyond sight. That's how far the criminal plot has advanced.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2014, 11:24:19 PM »
The Mexican government is express shipping these kids from their border to ours , they deal with them incredibly harshly usually but this is a great way to win support for amnesty so they're taking a big picture approach

Undoubtably our government is helping the Mexicans with this. Usually those illegals would be turned away a at the Mexican border, at worst raped or killed by Mexican border patrol

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2014, 05:26:21 AM »


Democrat hopes immigration crisis isn't 'Obama's Katrina moment'




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A group of immigrants from Honduras and El Salvador who crossed the U.S.-Mexico border illegally are stopped in Granjeno, Texas. (Eric Gay, AP)

Rep. Henry Cuellar, D-Texas, is worried President Obama’s decision to not visit the U.S-Mexico border while he’s in Texas this week will become his  “Katrina moment.”

“I’m sure that President Bush thought the same thing, that he could just look at everything from up in the sky, and then he owned it after a long time,” Cuellar said Monday in a Fox News interview with Neil Cavuto. “So I hope this doesn’t become the Katrina moment for President Obama, saying that he doesn’t need to come to the border. He should come down.”

George W. Bush was widely criticized for his administration’s response to Hurricane Katrina, which devastated the Gulf Coast in 2005. Among other things, Bush was slammed for praising then-FEMA director Michael Brown by saying “Brownie, you’re doing a heckuva job” and for a photograph taken from Air Force One in which he was seen peering at the wreckage.

In 2010, Bush told Matt Lauer of NBC that the photo was a “huge mistake” and that he should have had his plane land in Baton Rouge, La., so he could meet with the governor and state officials about the hurricane.

Obama will head to Texas on Wednesday for a fundraiser in Dallas for House Democrats and then travel to Austin on Thursday for a Democratic National Committee event and a speech on the economy. He has been criticized by Texas Gov. Rick Perry and others for not scheduling a visit to the border and for his response to the immigration crisis.

White House press secretary Josh Earnest said Monday that the president is “not worried about those optics.” The Obama administration is expected to provide details on a new budget request to address the immigration crisis on Tuesday.

“The president is well aware of what is happening along the Southwest border, that is why you have seen a wide range of steps to enforce the law,” Earnest said.

The House Homeland Security Committee held a field hearing last week in McAllen, Texas on the subject of unaccompanied children crossing the border illegally. Border Patrol statistics show the number of immigrants — adults and children — coming from countries other than Mexico who were arrested at the Southwest border has soared from 46,997 in fiscal year 2011 to nearly 150,000 in fiscal year 2013.

Cuellar, whose district stretches from just south of San Antonio to the U.S.-Mexico border, said the immigration issue “is not only a humanitarian crisis” but also points to problems with homeland security.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 07:18:13 AM »
Is it a "crisis" if its being done on purpose as part of a larger plan?

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2014, 07:20:27 AM »
Is it a "crisis" if its being done on purpose as part of a larger plan?

Exactly - its a crisis to the taxpayer and the country.  however - Obama is intentionally doing this in order to collapse the system to try to get the GOP to go along w his form of amnesty.

F him

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« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2014, 09:20:59 AM »
Exactly - its a crisis to the taxpayer and the country.  however - Obama is intentionally doing this in order to collapse the system to try to get the GOP to go along w his form of amnesty.

F him
Everybody knows you want to "f--k him". Enough already.

Clearly this a winning long-term strategy for the GOP, as Mighty-Whitey's percentage of the total population continues to plummet. :D

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2014, 09:34:54 AM »
Fagbama is trying to flood this country w Turd Worlders to try to collapse it   

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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2014, 10:20:37 AM »
Fagbama is trying to flood this country w Turd Worlders to try to collapse it   

kill yourself

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2014, 10:21:47 AM »
kill yourself

Blacks like yourself are harmed worst by illegals invading this country

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2014, 12:38:15 PM »
Blacks like yourself Crybaby LOSERS like myself are harmed worst by illegals invading this country.
That is why it is in your best interest to take your meds - without them you might KILL YOURSELF.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2014, 02:05:57 PM »
Because you people have done so well running things yourself.....and please if this assbag can hope for soul to kill himself I can point out historical facts that make people feel uncomfortable.
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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2014, 02:35:19 PM »
They want the benefits.   Its really that simple.
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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2014, 03:36:28 PM »
Is it a "crisis" if its being done on purpose as part of a larger plan?

Good point. 

Seems like both sides should be at least a little bit happy that this sorry episode might actually be the catalyst for making some overdue changes in immigration policy and practices. 

Of course, those changes, whatever they might be, will almost inevitably make some happier than others.

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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2014, 05:05:28 PM »
Good point. 

Seems like both sides should be at least a little bit happy that this sorry episode might actually be the catalyst for making some overdue changes in immigration policy and practices. 

Of course, those changes, whatever they might be, will almost inevitably make some happier than others.

Ain't no "changes" happening with America's RepubliThug DO NOTHING Congress still in power.

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Re: Showdown: California town turns away buses of detained immigrants
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2014, 07:41:56 PM »
HOLY FARK... WOW  ??? ??? ??? ???

http://www.examiner.com/article/mexico-made-deal-to-send-more-illegal-aliens-to-the-u-s



On Monday, Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto and Guatemalan president Otto Perez Molina held a joint press conference in Playas de Catazaja, Mexico, to officially announce an agreement to make it easier for those making the illegal journey to the United States from Central America, to cross into Mexico.

The Southern Border Program to Improve Passage, will provide for more border checkpoints along Mexico's border with Guatemala, and offer more protection and even emergency medical care to those making their way north. The illegal aliens will receive a so-called Regional Visitor's Card, according to El Universal.

Officially, the program will grant the cards to only illegal aliens from Guatemala and Belize, allowing them to remain in Mexico's southern states for 72 hours (more than enough time to reach the U.S./Mexican border by train). While, those two countries share a border with Mexico, the program will undoubtedly benefit anyone who makes it to the border, which would explain why our Border Patrol stations are currently overflowing with illegal aliens from El Salvador and Honduras as well.

The program will also give special protection and even financial assistance to unaccompanied minors now pouring across our border. Of course, these efforts, chiefly by the Mexican government, will only increase the number of illegal aliens coming to this country by the thousands, now on a daily basis.

The official announcement only confirms what many of us have known all along...the current chaos on the border which the Obama administration has sympathetically (and dishonestly) characterized as a "humanitarian crisis," only exists due to collusion between the governments of Mexico, Guatemala and likely the United States.

You see, unlike the United States, Mexico actually defends their southern border...

In September 2010, the head administrator of the Mexican Superintendency of Tax Administration, Raul Diaz, told the Inter-Press Sevice (IPS) that his government was building a wall in the state of Chiapas, along the Mexican/Guatemalan border. The official reason given was to stop contraband from coming into Mexico, but as Diaz readily admitted: "It could also prevent the free passage of illegal immigrants."

Furthermore, Article 33 of the Mexican Constitution states:

    The President of the Republic shall have the power to expel from national territory any foreigner, according to the law and after a hearing. The law shall establish the administrative procedure for this purpose, as well as the place where the foreigner should be detained and the time for that. Foreigners may not in any way participate in the political affairs of the country.

Of course, in the U.S. illegal aliens are not only free to stay without fear of deportation, but they now protest openly, regularly invading Congressional field offices to demand amnesty legislation, as well as actually physically blocking the entrances and exits of the Washington D.C. headquarters of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement headquarters in 2013.

Obviously, the American people are under daily assault from foreign invaders, bringing with them crime and disease, but the bigger threat is from government corruption, both foreign and domestic...governments that manufacture crises which threaten to "fundamentally transform" ours into a Third World nation in less than a generation.