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800 Mg ofDeca too much
« on: January 27, 2006, 09:51:50 AM »
Is 800mg of Deca / week too much for weeks 4 and 5 of a 8 week cycle?
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2006, 10:31:18 AM »
expand on this bro, im lost. what r u planning for a cycle, whats ur cycle history, age, stats


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2006, 10:33:54 AM »
Quote from: flaco on January 27, 2006, 09:51:50 AM
Is 800mg of Deca / week too much for weeks 4 and 5 of a 8 week cycle?

Come on Bro.....an 8-week cycle is nothin!!!  You gottta go with a least a 12weeker.....at only 8wks as soon as you start to make good gains youre about ready to come off???  And i know DIV always reccomends to run Deca for a lot longer than 8wks  (at least 12 but preferably 16).....as for the 800mg Deca question:

Personally I think that is a little much....600 is usually the highest I really ever see and thats the BIG BOYS (experienced juicers)....so i think 800 is definitely too high....also how much TEST are u runnin with it???  Test to Deca ratio needs to be around 2 to 1...if its your 1st cycle id suggest:

Wk 1-12    500mg Test Enanthate

wk 1-12     250mg Deca-Durabolin

Wk 1-4      30mg DBol (if desired)

then run proper PCT!!!
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2006, 10:43:02 AM »
good post bigIronMike! it sounds like this bro just wants to run deca  :-X
very bad choice so hopfully he reads this!


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2006, 03:24:46 PM »
Quote from: flaco on January 27, 2006, 09:51:50 AM
Is 800mg of Deca / week too much for weeks 4 and 5 of a 8 week cycle?
By all means run this cycle^

After your finished with this genius cycle, and have turned into a eunuch,  post a new reply and let us know how it went down for you.
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2006, 03:55:03 PM »
have u heard of limp dick? add test bro, simple as that, if anything do a test only cycle if u only want one compound, simple as that.


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2006, 07:36:52 PM »
I'm not positive about this, maybe Div or someone else can clear it up.. But after a certain amount deca, you dont get anymore of an effect...
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2006, 08:48:46 PM »
Man 800mg deca a week? Hmmmm, do you have a girlfriend/wife? :-X  I have never went over 400mg a week, and i ran that with 750mg of sauce wkly...But like the guys said atleast 12wks, if not more!

And I hope your not wanting to run that alone? Do a search man, theres plenty of forum topics on DECA & Cycles to answer your questions!

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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2006, 12:57:26 AM »
Quote from: flaco on January 27, 2006, 09:51:50 AM
Is 800mg of Deca / week too much for weeks 4 and 5 of a 8 week cycle?

I don't mean to demean you or put you down, but if you are serious with this question I would advise you to do more research on your own.  ALOT MORE RESEARCH.

If you run Deca @800MG ew (without a Test base of around 1.5G EW) your dick will literally head south for the winter.  No libido, no desire, no sexual thoughts whatsoever........it would be like you were castrated. 

DO NOT DO THIS.




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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2006, 03:12:36 AM »
1k test would help !
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2006, 01:23:29 PM »
Quote from: sportingsteroids on January 28, 2006, 03:12:36 AM
1k test would help !



fuck yeah it would work!
i dont think there is a certain amount of deca that the body can only handle. i think it just may be pointless to run THAT much deca in any cycle, at any level (but of course guys do) meaning u can get away and get great gains with less than that.


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2006, 02:31:51 PM »
Quote from: muscle19 on January 28, 2006, 01:23:29 PM

f**k yeah it would work!
i dont think there is a certain amount of deca that the body can only handle. i think it just may be pointless to run THAT much deca in any cycle, at any level (but of course guys do) meaning u can get away and get great gains with less than that.


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Now I may be wrong about this, so correct me if I am.

But since deca can raise blood-pressure, wouldn't even higher dosage cause this to be more of a problem?
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2006, 05:35:58 PM »
i bet so, i just dont see the point of running deca at a very  high amont in the first place. since its stays awhile in the body 800 or more mg's is too much IMO.


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2006, 07:08:44 PM »
Quote from: Arnold jr on January 28, 2006, 02:31:51 PM
Now I may be wrong about this, so correct me if I am.

But since deca can raise blood-pressure, wouldn't even higher dosage cause this to be more of a problem?

No.

The hypertension is only related to water retention and that won't increase after a certain point.  Besides, the edema is mostly located in the joint and muscle tissues. 



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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #14 on: January 29, 2006, 12:26:00 AM »
Quote from: JamieX4200 on January 27, 2006, 07:36:52 PM
I'm not positive about this, maybe Div or someone else can clear it up.. But after a certain amount deca, you dont get anymore of an effect...
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2006, 08:21:32 PM »
like i said before, i dont think so but ull have to be insane taking that much deca. not smart


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2006, 08:33:41 PM »
If my memory serves me correct-- after a certain amount you cant get any more effect... But I've heard of guys running almost 1,000 mg worth of deca and up to 1,500 mg of test.... Guys were big, and fairly strong.... But spent almost all of their money on shit.  Dont know what they are up to now
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2006, 08:38:48 PM »
Quote from: JamieX4200 on January 30, 2006, 08:33:41 PM
If my memory serves me correct-- after a certain amount you cant get any more effect... But I've heard of guys running almost 1,000 mg worth of deca and up to 1,500 mg of test.... Guys were big, and fairly strong.... But spent almost all of their money on shit.  Dont know what they are up to now
Running that much deca, they are probably out somewhere searching for their balls :-[

They might be alright running that amount of test with it, but shit, 1000mg of deca is pretty extreme.
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2006, 08:42:06 PM »
exactly what i was thinking.


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2006, 08:46:08 PM »
Quote from: JamieX4200 on January 30, 2006, 08:33:41 PM
If my memory serves me correct-- after a certain amount you cant get any more effect... But I've heard of guys running almost 1,000 mg worth of deca and up to 1,500 mg of test.... Guys were big, and fairly strong.... But spent almost all of their money on shit.  Dont know what they are up to now

the law of dimishing returns comes into play here...
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #20 on: January 30, 2006, 09:20:33 PM »
exactlly, there is no point of killing ur recepters with that kinda of amount of juice anyways. expecially deca which is already hard on ur system and a bitch to recover from.


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #21 on: January 30, 2006, 10:15:59 PM »
Quote from: gammahydroxy on January 30, 2006, 08:46:08 PM
the law of dimishing returns comes into play here...

diminishing returns and diminishing nutsack... :'(




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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2006, 09:13:41 PM »
Quote from: DIVISION on January 30, 2006, 10:15:59 PM
diminishing returns and diminishing nutsack... :'(
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Maybe some guys just figure their balls are so small anyway that it just doesn't really matter. They figure "what the hell, it's not like I'll be able to see any difference."
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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2006, 08:52:20 PM »
Quote from: Arnold jr on January 31, 2006, 09:13:41 PM
Maybe some guys just figure their balls are so small anyway that it just doesn't really matter. They figure "what the hell, it's not like I'll be able to see any difference."


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Re: 800 Mg ofDeca too much
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2006, 07:14:36 AM »
Quote from: JamieX4200 on January 30, 2006, 08:33:41 PM
If my memory serves me correct-- after a certain amount you cant get any more effect... But I've heard of guys running almost 1,000 mg worth of deca and up to 1,500 mg of test.... Guys were big, and fairly strong.... But spent almost all of their money on shit.  Dont know what they are up to now

GEEEZ!!! what the hell are these people thinking....1000mg of deca x week...holy shit...like i've said the maximum i think should be 600mg and thats at the ABSOLUTE maximum...just my opinion....600mg deca with 1000mg Test
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