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« Reply #25 on: July 13, 2014, 03:50:59 PM »
Yes, poor Alex Rodriguez is still getting payed ($275mil) for being suspended. Damn that communism. lol

http://www.forbes.com/athletes/list/#tab:overall

1st baseball player at #23, behind 6 footballers. Not A Rod either.

I think US system is better if I'm honest. Real Madrid, Barcelona and to a lesser extent other superpowers in football just pay crazy money for the best players. Three +$100m players in attack on one team alone, each getting paid close to $500k/week just in after tax salaries, ignoring sponsorship. It is ridiculous. Add in TV deals and rich get richer, less teams are competitive.

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« Reply #26 on: July 13, 2014, 03:51:04 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2014, 03:54:21 PM »
In what way? The rich clubs buy all the best players leading to hegemony.

US sports and the draft system and wage caps is communism personified.

Draws are a disgrace, as a paying consumer I deserve a result!

Only one break in play? I've got a whole marketing budget to spend here for fuck sake.

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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2014, 04:01:31 PM »
Draws are a disgrace, as a paying consumer I deserve a result!

Only one break in play? I've got a whole marketing budget to spend here for fuck sake.

I don't know how US sports fans deal with the breaks, would drive me insane. I can't watch TV there, when we watch Simpsons or Southpark, for example, screen goes black for a break very often yet we don't have ads, show goes on, I imagine Americans do get ads every black out. I'd go nuts.

Re draws, the concept of league v cup is a strange beast. When you have a tight league campaign, like 2011/12 premier league, it is most enthralling thing ever. When it is decided before the last game it is anti-climactic. You pay a price with fairness (a draw is a fair result) and decision (winner takes all) with the odd crazy climax.


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« Reply #29 on: July 13, 2014, 04:06:07 PM »
Coach = whiney bitch.

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« Reply #30 on: July 13, 2014, 04:08:54 PM »
I don't know how US sports fans deal with the breaks, would drive me insane. I can't watch TV there, when we watch Simpsons or Southpark, for example, screen goes black for a break very often yet we don't have ads, show goes on, I imagine Americans do get ads every black out. I'd go nuts.

Re draws, the concept of league v cup is a strange beast. When you have a tight league campaign, like 2011/12 premier league, it is most enthralling thing ever. When it is decided before the last game it is anti-climactic. You pay a price with fairness (a draw is a fair result) and decision (winner takes all) with the odd crazy climax.



Ads are vital for the economy to grow and how else am I going to know what to buy?! Nothing more American than getting into more debt.

Soccer would be more watchable if it was split into quarters, I also think they should introduce the option of specialist throw in takers. Get a good sponsor out of that position too! Could even wear a costume.

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« Reply #31 on: July 13, 2014, 04:16:12 PM »
Ads are vital for the economy to grow and how else am I going to know what to buy?! Nothing more American than getting into more debt.

Soccer would be more watchable if it was split into quarters, I also think they should introduce the option of specialist throw in takers. Get a good sponsor out of that position too! Could even wear a costume.



I'm pretty handy at throwing, nailed my son in the head from 25 metres when he was running away from me today, but THIS is impressive.

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« Reply #32 on: July 13, 2014, 04:31:25 PM »
A few weeks ago on Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel, he did a piece about how these teams are paying off officials to throw games. Happened a lot during the World Cup playoffs.

Hey 'Coach' looks like U a so jealous of other mega $$$$$ football coaches like Joachim or Van Gaal ??

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« Reply #33 on: July 13, 2014, 04:41:09 PM »
Hey 'Coach' looks like U a so jealous of other mega $$$$$ football coaches like Joachim or Van Gaal ??

Who? No, seriously....who?

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« Reply #34 on: July 13, 2014, 04:44:10 PM »
Who? No, seriously....who?

They make 5million pounds a year. I think most people would be jealous. But van gaal is really really ugly.

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« Reply #35 on: July 13, 2014, 04:45:19 PM »
They make 5million pounds a year. I think most people would be jealous. But van gaal is really really ugly.

Oh..how much is that in American?

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« Reply #36 on: July 13, 2014, 04:49:10 PM »
Oh..how much is that in American?

About $8million at a quick guess. Maybe I'm just converting km to miles.... $8.55m after googling it.

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« Reply #37 on: July 13, 2014, 04:53:12 PM »
Who? No, seriously....who?

Ah, 'coach' & U a pro  ::)
Stop embarassing yourself.

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« Reply #38 on: July 13, 2014, 04:53:33 PM »
It is.

Ive given up trying to explain to non US folk how we really dont give a shit about soccer here.

They're trying so hard to push it on us during this years soccer season (whatever it is you guys call it), constantly running ads saying things like "its not football but please be understanding and give it a chance" (dead srs), but we really just dont care as a culture, and only an extremely small amount of Americans even bother to turn it on. (And theyre usually immigrants)

At my gym tbey had the soccer championship thingy on TV and there seriously was ads trying to convinces us to give it a chance. Hilariously,  3 or 4 people complained and they changed the channel to a fckin aports channel talking about Lebron possibly taking a shit. People here would rather watch someone speculate on a hebrews home life than they would the world championships of soccer.

Ita hard to make Non US people grasp this since its so popular everywhere else.

I was kinda surprised how many here actually were watching. Every bar had it on, and everyone seemed into it. I gave it a shot for a few minutes, not for me. Then again, golf, NASCAR, horse racing, all popular too, but I can't sit through it. Love baseball, though, so what the fuck do I know.

If you enjoy it, knock yourself out.

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« Reply #39 on: July 13, 2014, 04:53:52 PM »
About $8million at a quick guess. Maybe I'm just converting km to miles.... $8.55m after googling it.

Ok..our NFL coaches are ALMOST comparable to soccer.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/22/eight-nfl-coaches-earn-salaries-topping-6-million/

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« Reply #40 on: July 13, 2014, 04:55:03 PM »
About $8million at a quick guess. Maybe I'm just converting km to miles.... $8.55m after googling it.

Zenit St.Petersburgh coach must be on massive €€€€ (Putins team).

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« Reply #41 on: July 13, 2014, 04:58:34 PM »
I was kinda surprised how many here actually were watching. Every bar had it on, and everyone seemed into it. I gave it a shot for a few minutes, not for me. Then again, golf, NASCAR, horse racing, all popular too, but I can't sit through it.

Fuck it. If you enjoy it, knock yourself out.

Theyre really making a big push trying to get it in here... probably lots of money to be made. I see all kinds of commercials and pushing our team. Frankly I had no idea we were even competing until someone started lamenting about how unfair something was compared to the Germans or some shit.

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« Reply #42 on: July 13, 2014, 04:59:44 PM »
Ok..our NFL coaches are ALMOST comparable to soccer.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/22/eight-nfl-coaches-earn-salaries-topping-6-million/

Club coaches make more, closer to $20million but they work a lot more, 100 hour weeks and can lose job with the click of a finger. It is getting inflated year on year with ridiculous TV deals and oil money buying clubs. Qataris and Dubai sovereign funds are buying clubs and giving them BILLIONS. Rest is crazy TV money, high ticket prices (with sold out stadiums every match), crazy sponsorship ($110m PER YEAR for shirt sponsorship) etc etc. Seems like a bubble but I don't know. Clubs lose money unlike US franchises.

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« Reply #43 on: July 13, 2014, 05:01:32 PM »
Club coaches make more, closer to $20million but they work a lot more, 100 hour weeks and can lose job with the click of a finger. It is getting inflated year on year with ridiculous TV deals and oil money buying clubs. Qataris and Dubai sovereign funds are buying clubs and giving them BILLIONS. Rest is crazy TV money, high ticket prices (with sold out stadiums every match), crazy sponsorship ($110m PER YEAR for shirt sponsorship) etc etc. Seems like a bubble but I don't know. Clubs lose money unlike US franchises.

Damn!

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« Reply #44 on: July 13, 2014, 05:01:44 PM »

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« Reply #46 on: July 13, 2014, 05:03:41 PM »
Damn!
Worldwide $$$$ Joe. The fact that NFL coaches make so much when its such a small sport comparatively is nothing short of amazing.

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« Reply #47 on: July 13, 2014, 05:09:31 PM »
Theyre really making a big push trying to get it in here... probably lots of money to be made. I see all kinds of commercials and pushing our team. Frankly I had no idea we were even competing until someone started lamenting about how unfair something was compared to the Germans or some shit.

Caught me off guard as well. "Thought we all hated this shit together?!" I screamed, but no one was listening. Really, though, people stood outside on the sidewalk, watching a local bar's patio tv. In the morning, a couple weeks back. The place was overrun with fans.

No one ever talks about it the rest of the year, I've never heard a word. Then, BAM! Had no idea.

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« Reply #48 on: July 13, 2014, 05:13:51 PM »
Damn!

To give you an idea how retarded the system is, one team that got relegated (came in last three and moved to a lower division) in English premier league this season Fulham, have higher wages than team that came runners up in Champions League (equivalent of Superbowl I guess) because they come from Spain. You're talking shit players in shit teams making millions per year. In squads of 23 players, unlike basketball.

I was amazed when I saw a Seahawks player, the guy doing all the shit talking last year I think, was making $600k/year. I mean that is good money for someone who probably has no education and isn't a superstar, but we are numbed by seeing mediocre people making $50k/week. The money is out of all proportion to their talent and, realistically, their earning potential. At least people like Lebron, Messi etc sell seats and get people watching. Bet you never heard of Samuel Eto. He used to earn €400K/WEEK (+$500K) playing for a Russian team after his best days were long behind him. Now he ONLY makes $200k/wk.

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« Reply #49 on: July 13, 2014, 05:15:04 PM »
Worldwide $$$$ Joe. The fact that NFL coaches make so much when its such a small sport comparatively is nothing short of amazing.

I completely get that. That's why it through me off a little when he said they were getting around $8mil.