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How to Beat the NRA In 7 (Not-So-Easy) Steps

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See the link for the entire article I posted the 7 steps but only went into detail on the most dishonest and idiotic ones ;)

1. Commit to a Generation-Long Battle
2. Think Federally. Act Locally.
3. Politicize Disaster, Unabashedly
This isn't complicated: Making a political issue of the tiny coffins of dead children in the wake of a school shooting isn't just a thing that helps pass strong gun-control, it's practically the only thing

4. Act, Don't Dither     
When catastrophic events like Newtown unfold, there's an impulse from many elected officials to slow down, to gather facts, to ensure that cooler heads prevail. Politically, this is why gun-control dies.

5. Bring Big Money to the Table
6. Think Bigger than Mayors, Moms, and Martyrs
7. Prepare for Setbacks — and for Payback

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So lets understand number 4 in particular.

The reason gun control fails is because we slow down, gather facts and ensure that cooler heads prevail?

LMFAO hahahaha you literally cannot make this stupidity up!!!!

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obama owned congress and we haven't had a gun bill.

mitt wrote some of the toughest anti-gun legislation any state has ever seen, and repubs begged to make him president.

bush said he'd have renewed the freakin brady bill if he could lol.

it's all so mixed up.  we aren't going to see gun legislation because it's poison to politicians.  the base uses it to piss people off, but if obama + dems in both houses didn't go for it, we'll never see it.

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obama owned congress and we haven't had a gun bill.

mitt wrote some of the toughest anti-gun legislation any state has ever seen, and repubs begged to make him president.

bush said he'd have renewed the freakin brady bill if he could lol.

it's all so mixed up.  we aren't going to see gun legislation because it's poison to politicians.  the base uses it to piss people off, but if obama + dems in both houses didn't go for it, we'll never see it.

Yeah, It's like trying to compare Romneycare to Obamacare. after all, it's the same thing, right? At least that's what the left keep saying ::) and all the Brady Bill was having a waiting time to purchase hand guns for background checks.

 240, I'd be willing to bet if any of us (the left on here excluded because if they believe Obama they'll believe anyone) had the kind of time to spend the kind of time on a computer as you do, it wouldn't that hard to debunk the crap you write.

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obama owned congress and we haven't had a gun bill.

mitt wrote some of the toughest anti-gun legislation any state has ever seen, and repubs begged to make him president.

bush said he'd have renewed the freakin brady bill if he could lol.

it's all so mixed up.  we aren't going to see gun legislation because it's poison to politicians.  the base uses it to piss people off, but if obama + dems in both houses didn't go for it, we'll never see it.


Good.  We don't need it.  Plenty of laws on the books as it sits now.

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Typical fear mongering started by the gun makers and their reps in order to boost sales.  Which I have to admit, is an awesome marketing tactic. 

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Typical fear mongering started by the gun makers and their reps in order to boost sales.  Which I have to admit, is an awesome marketing tactic. 
Lol except this is from a liberal rag...I guess a gun maker advocate got a job there and wrote this piece from the inside eh lurker?

Good to see things don't change much

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Lol except this is from a liberal rag...I guess a gun maker advocate got a job there and wrote this piece from the inside eh lurker?

Good to see things don't change much

 You were gone for some time but one thing has not changed and that is Lurker is still that stupid.

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You were gone for some time but one thing has not changed and that is Lurker is still that stupid.

So your dumb ass is denying that gun sales didn't soar after all the "they are coming for our guns" crying the right did?

Again, what third world shit hole spawned your stupid ass?  You have been asked this a dozen times, yet still ashamed to say?  It's ok, we - including the GOP - are tolerant to immigrant trash nowdays. 

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Lol except this is from a liberal rag...I guess a gun maker advocate got a job there and wrote this piece from the inside eh lurker?

Good to see things don't change much

I am pointing out the obvious result of the so called "war on guns".  If you can't accept it or understand it, then it isn't my fault.  My statement neither supports nor denies what the article is about. 


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I am pointing out the obvious result of the so called "war on guns".  If you can't accept it or understand it, then it isn't my fault.  My statement neither supports nor denies what the article is about. 



Some other champion of the Right and conservatism had a "war on guns" and hes the Titan of the conservative movement. Said to be the best president ever...
Selective amnesia by some

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Some other champion of the Right and conservatism had a "war on guns" and hes the Titan of the conservative movement. Said to be the best president ever...
Selective amnesia by some

Not said - voted in a recent poll - all while Obama voted as the WORST  :P

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Some other champion of the Right and conservatism had a "war on guns" and hes the Titan of the conservative movement. Said to be the best president ever...
Selective amnesia by some

Do you think the Peanut Gallery understands history and basic facts?  REALLY?

You can't whine nonstop without attempting to partly fuel it through revisionist history.

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Do you think the Peanut Gallery understands history and basic facts?  REALLY?

You can't whine nonstop without attempting to partly fuel it through revisionist history.


As governor of California, Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford Act, which prohibited the carrying of firearms on your person, in your vehicle, and in any public place or on the street, and he also signed off on a 15-day waiting period for firearm purchases. After leaving the presidency, he supported the passage of the Brady bill that established by federal law a nationwide, uniform standard of a 7-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns to enable background checks on prospective buyers. He urged then President Bush to drop his opposition to the bill.



Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-reagan-letter-20120210,0,1471722.story#ixzz37Ys1dtnb

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As governor of California, Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford Act, which prohibited the carrying of firearms on your person, in your vehicle, and in any public place or on the street, and he also signed off on a 15-day waiting period for firearm purchases. After leaving the presidency, he supported the passage of the Brady bill that established by federal law a nationwide, uniform standard of a 7-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns to enable background checks on prospective buyers. He urged then President Bush to drop his opposition to the bill.



Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-reagan-letter-20120210,0,1471722.story#ixzz37Ys1dtnb


LIES!!! 

It was Obama in a Reagan mask.

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As governor of California, Ronald Reagan signed the Mulford Act, which prohibited the carrying of firearms on your person, in your vehicle, and in any public place or on the street, and he also signed off on a 15-day waiting period for firearm purchases. After leaving the presidency, he supported the passage of the Brady bill that established by federal law a nationwide, uniform standard of a 7-day waiting period for the purchase of handguns to enable background checks on prospective buyers. He urged then President Bush to drop his opposition to the bill.



Read more: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/readersrespond/bs-ed-reagan-letter-20120210,0,1471722.story#ixzz37Ys1dtnb

I thought you hated Reagan  ;)

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I am pointing out the obvious result of the so called "war on guns".  If you can't accept it or understand it, then it isn't my fault.  My statement neither supports nor denies what the article is about. 


is that like the obvious "war on women"?

lol or is it different b/c there were actually bills discussed and proposed that aimed at restricting gun rights? unlike the supposed "war on women"...

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is that like the obvious "war on women"?

lol or is it different b/c there were actually bills discussed and proposed that aimed at restricting gun rights? unlike the supposed "war on women"...

Yeah. Exactly like that.

Now you want to talk about the thread topic you started and the bills and laws that non liberals passed on it which makes your argument completely irrelevant and ineffective, or do you want to attempt to change topics to something else that merits the exact same behavior as attempts to pass bills has been applied in the exact same sense?  Your call.  You are going to end up looking like an ass in either case.

Based on your history and common sense, it is easy to predict you will attempt to change topics now that your little whinefest has back fired.

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Yeah. Exactly like that.

Now you want to talk about the thread topic you started and the bills and laws that non liberals passed on it which makes your argument completely irrelevant and ineffective, or do you want to attempt to change topics to something else that merits the exact same behavior as attempts to pass bills has been applied in the exact same sense?  Your call.  You are going to end up looking like an ass in either case.

Based on your history and common sense, it is easy to predict you will attempt to change topics now that your little whinefest has back fired.

What got into your vag tonight?  Geez

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What got into your vag tonight?  Geez

Can't handle common sense and logical observations?  No surprise. 

Being a midget, I can see why most things go over your head.

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Yeah. Exactly like that.

Now you want to talk about the thread topic you started and the bills and laws that non liberals passed on it which makes your argument completely irrelevant and ineffective, or do you want to attempt to change topics to something else that merits the exact same behavior as attempts to pass bills has been applied in the exact same sense?  Your call.  You are going to end up looking like an ass in either case.

Based on your history and common sense, it is easy to predict you will attempt to change topics now that your little whinefest has back fired.
hahah given enough time the two parties have been on either side of any give issue. I dont see how that is relevant to the current dishonest and idiotic liberal progressive tactics they are using to try and push their agenda.

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Yeah. Exactly like that.

Now you want to talk about the thread topic you started and the bills and laws that non liberals passed on it which makes your argument completely irrelevant and ineffective, or do you want to attempt to change topics to something else that merits the exact same behavior as attempts to pass bills has been applied in the exact same sense?  Your call.  You are going to end up looking like an ass in either case.

Based on your history and common sense, it is easy to predict you will attempt to change topics now that your little whinefest has back fired.
Did those people youre speaking of stand on the graves of little children and ram legislation through before rational, logical thinking and cooler heads could prevail?

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Did those people youre speaking of stand on the graves of little children and ram legislation through before rational, logical thinking and cooler heads could prevail?

Did they on the ones you are speaking of? 

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Did those people youre speaking of stand on the graves of little children and ram legislation through before rational, logical thinking and cooler heads could prevail?


We all know you will never father kids but maybe people who does wants them to not get shot?