When one considers how musically advanced the young members of, say, Decapitated were when they were recording their earliest demos and first offical recordings, these schmucks aren't anything remotely special. Hell, (now dead) Decapitated drummer Vitek was 12 when they recorded their first demos, and he was 14, I believe, when Winds Of Creation came out. Those bastards were SO far beyond what anyone thinks of when they think of a child of that age it's ridiculous.