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Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« on: July 17, 2014, 01:22:02 PM »
This isn't as long as it looks, you guys should read it.


This speech was given by Governor Lamm at the 2004 Immigration-Overpopulation Conference in Washington, D.C.

AMERICAN SUICIDE Wherever you stand, please take the time to read this; it ought to scare the pants off you! We know Dick Lamm as the former Governor of Colorado (Democrat). In that context his thoughtsare particularly poignant. Recently there was an immigration overpopulation conference in Washington, DC, filled to capacity by many of America's finest minds and leaders. A brilliant college professor by the name of Victor Davis Hansen talked about his latest book, "Mexifornia," explaining how immigration - both legal and illegal was destroying the entire state of California He said it would march across the country until it destroyed all vestiges of The American Dream. Moments later, former Colorado Governor Richard D. Lamm stood up and gave a stunning speech on how to destroy America. The audience sat spellbound as he described eight methods for the destruction of the United States. He said, "If you believe that America is too smug, too self-satisfied, too rich, then let's destroy America. It is not that hard to do. No nation in history has survived the ravages of time. Arnold Toynbee observed that all great civilizations rise and fall and that 'An autopsy of history would show that all great nations commit suicide.'" "Here is how they do it," Lamm said: "First, to destroy America, turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country." History shows tha! t no nat ion can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar, Seymour Lipset, put it this way: "The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy." Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, and Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficult times with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans." Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. Make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. Make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due solely to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds. Third, "We could make the United States an 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: "The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentricity and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together."

Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would! replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America enforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities." "Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% drop out rate from high school." "My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think that their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."


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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 01:41:25 PM »
Epic truth. That is exactly what is going on now, and the 'balkanization' of america is almost assured at this point...the entire southwest is going to become a hispanic quebec

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 02:01:43 PM »
Epic truth. That is exactly what is going on now, and the 'balkanization' of america is almost assured at this point...the entire southwest is going to become a hispanic quebec

Yeah, it's so crystal clear.

The term multiculturalism is an oxymoron, it's fucking ludicrous... lol

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2014, 02:30:04 PM »
I seem to remember a few fucking idiots on this board giving me shit for saying almost exactly what this guy is saying. 

These people are risking their life to get away from a country that can't or won't take care of them, and fleeing to a country that will.  then they are taking pride in the fact that they will not, under any circumstances, assimilate at all in the new country.  and if that's not enough, will take every opportunity they have to disrespect the new country that allowed them a safe haven and celebrate the country that abandoned them.

its a knee jerk reaction that these fucking idiot liberals have to anything that's "not American".  white guilt is a real thing and is a byproduct of idiots who watch too much tv.

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2014, 02:49:44 PM »
Be prepared for the usual barrage of insults that have zero connection to the content of this post.
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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2014, 05:44:52 PM »
I like the term "Balkanization". People have no idea of the concept, and just think America will keep on going forever. Some people cannot be objective, it's insane. We just happen to be here for the beginning of the end.

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2014, 07:10:44 AM »
I like the term "Balkanization". People have no idea of the concept, and just think America will keep on going forever. Some people cannot be objective, it's insane. We just happen to be here for the beginning of the end.

Yep. Pat buchanan has written extensively on this subject and started calling this stuff many years ago, i first heard the term related to americas future by him. And yea people have zero understanding or knowledge of history and just assume America will automatically go on forever as a superpower

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2014, 12:45:26 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Davis_Hanson

Victor Davis Hanson (born September 5, 1953) is an American military historian, columnist, former classics professor, and scholar of ancient warfare. He has been a commentator on modern warfare and contemporary politics for National Review and other media outlets. He was a professor of classics at California State University, Fresno, and is currently the Martin and Illie Anderson Senior Fellow at Stanford University's Hoover Institution. He has been a visiting professor at Hillsdale College since 2004.
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Hanson was a strong defender of George W. Bush and his policies, especially the Iraq war. He was also a vocal supporter of Bush's Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. Hanson wrote of Rumsfeld that he was: "a rare sort of secretary of the caliber of George Marshall" and a "proud and honest-speaking visionary" whose "hard work and insight are bringing us ever closer to victory".
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Israeli–Arab conflict
In his article Israel did it, Hanson asks why Israel was being blamed for responding to attacks by Hezbollah and Hamas that shelled Israel for a few months with deadly rockets while the world was watching indifferently. He explains that if there were not so many civilian casualties inside Israel, it was not from the lack of trying: "Israel was to be blamed because its hundreds of air strikes against combatants were lethal, while Hezbollah was to be excused for shooting off thousands of rockets aimed at civilians because of its relative incompetence."

Hanson also questions how it is that "Jimmy Carter, silent about Iran's latest promotion for its planned holocaust, is hawking his latest book – in typical fashion, sorta, kinda alleging that the Israelis are like the South Africans in perpetuating an apartheid state, that they are cruel to many Christians, and, as occupiers, are understandably the targets of suicide bombers and other terrorist killers."

Confrontation with Iran
Hanson has argued that the US should take a much more confrontational stance towards Iran, advocating unilateral responses to the country. On the Hugh Hewitt show in August 2007, Hanson stated: "We really need to start doing some things beyond talking, and if that is going into Iranian airspace, or buzzing Iranians, or even starting to forget where the border is and taking out some of these training camps, we need to do that and send a message, because they’re a paper tiger. They really are."



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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2014, 12:49:09 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Levin

Mark Reed Levin (born September 21, 1957) is an American lawyer, author, and the host of American syndicated radio show The Mark Levin Show. Levin worked in the administration of President Ronald Reagan and was a chief of staff for Attorney General Edwin Meese. He is president of the Landmark Legal Foundation, has authored five books and contributes commentary to various media outlets such as National Review Online. He pronounces his name with the stress on the second syllable, leVIN.
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Levin began his broadcasting career as a guest on conservative talk radio programs. For many years, he was a frequent contributor of legal opinions to The Rush Limbaugh Show, where Limbaugh referred to him on-air as "F. Lee Levin," a tongue-in-cheek reference to the defense attorney F. Lee Bailey. He was also a contributor to The Sean Hannity Show and eventually got a radio slot of his own on WABC, following Sean Hannity's program. Hannity has nicknamed Mark Levin "The Great One. Levin and Hannity remain frequent contributors to each other's programs. He is a leading conservative commentator, ranked 4–6 position nationally among talk radio programs, with a minimum of 7.75 million total weekly listenership according to Talkers Magazine.


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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2014, 12:57:20 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Lamm

Richard Douglas "Dick" Lamm (born September 12, 1935) is an American politician, writer, Certified Public Accountant, college professor, and lawyer. He served three terms as 38th Governor of Colorado as a Democrat (1975–1987) and ran for the Reform Party's nomination for President of the United States in 1996.
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After leaving office, Lamm has continued to speak publicly on environmental, immigration reduction, and health care issues.

In 2004 Lamm unsuccessfully ran for a seat on the Board of Directors of the Sierra Club. He urged that the Sierra Club advocate immigration controls as a way to limit environmental degradation due to population growth. During a 2011 interview, Lamm clarified that he believes "legal immigration has been good for America. The success of Silicon Valley shows we need entrepreneurial immigrants with skills to bring to our country!”
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In 2005, a 2004 speech by Lamm titled "I Have a Plan to Destroy America," became famous after being frequently forwarded as an email; in it he criticizes the United States of America and advocates the destruction of the USA through multiculturalism as a means of dividing the country against itself eventually leading to self destruction. Through this speech he is exposed as a traitor. (http://michellemalkin.com/2008/02/09/i-have-a-plan-to-destroy-america-by-richard-d-lamm/) In 2006, he gave a controversial speech on the theme of his recently released book, Two Wands, One Nation, advocating that black and Hispanic Americans embrace "Japanese or Jewish values". The essay was strongly criticised by some blacks and Hispanics.
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Quotes
"My sixth point for America’s downfall would be to include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other—that is when they are not killing each other." – How to Destroy America

"The U.S. economy will be debt-ridden, with structural unemployment nearing 20 percent. The U.S. will have the lowest percentage of capital investment and lowest growth in productivity and savings of any major industrialized country. The middle class will be wiped out by these inter-related economic predicaments. … The U.S. has the most expensive and inefficient health-care system in the world." – Megatraumas: America at the Year 2000

Lamm said that elderly, terminally ill patients, have “a duty to die and get out of the way... so that our kids can build a reasonable life."

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2014, 01:48:14 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_buchanan

Patrick Joseph "Pat" Buchanan (/bjuːˈkænɨn/; born November 2, 1938) is an American conservative political commentator, author, syndicated columnist, politician, and broadcaster. Buchanan was a senior advisor to American Presidents Richard Nixon, Gerald Ford, and Ronald Reagan, and was an original host on CNN's Crossfire. He sought the Republican presidential nomination in 1992 and 1996. He ran on the Reform Party ticket in the 2000 presidential election.

He co-founded The American Conservative magazine and launched a foundation named The American Cause. He has been published in Human Events, National Review, The Nation, and Rolling Stone. He was a political commentator on the MSNBC cable network, including the show Morning Joe until February 2012. Buchanan is a regular on The McLaughlin Group and now appears on Fox News.
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Buchanan returned to his column and began regular appearances as a broadcast host and political commentator. He co-hosted a three-hour daily radio show with liberal columnist Tom Braden called the Buchanan-Braden Program. He delivered daily commentaries on NBC radio from 1978 to 1984. Buchanan started his TV career as a regular on The McLaughlin Group and CNN's Crossfire (inspired by Buchanan-Braden) and The Capital Gang, making him nationally recognizable. His several stints on Crossfire occurred between 1982 and 1999; his sparring partners included Braden, Michael Kinsley, Geraldine Ferraro, and Bill Press.

Buchanan is a regular panelist on The McLaughlin Group. He appears most Sundays alongside John McLaughlin and the more liberal Newsweek journalist Eleanor Clift. On The McLaughlin Group Buchanan has made such comments as “‘Capitol Hill is Israeli occupied territory’ and ‘If you want to know ethnicity and power in the United States Senate, 13 members of the Senate are Jewish folks who are from 2 percent of the population. That is where real power is at…’” His columns are syndicated nationally by Creators Syndicate.
Accusations of antisemitism and Holocaust diminution

Buchanan has written about the Holocaust and engaged in the defense of some accused of Nazi war crimes.[citation needed] For example, Buchanan wrote that it was impossible for 850,000 Jews to be killed by diesel exhaust fed into the gas chamber at Treblinka. Such statements have led to accusations that he has helped legitimize Holocaust denial. When George Will challenged him about it on TV, Buchanan failed to reply. In 1983 he criticized the U.S. Government for expressing regret over its postwar protection of Klaus Barbie. In 1985, Buchanan advocated restoring the citizenship of Arthur Rudolph, an ex-Nazi rocket scientist accused of employing slave labor at a V-2 plant. In 1987, Buchanan lobbied to stop deportation of Karl Linnas, accused of atrocities in Estonia. In 1991 William F. Buckley, Jr. wrote a 40,000-word National Review article discussing anti-Semitism amongst conservative commentators focused largely on Buchanan; the article and many responses to it were collected in the book In Search of Anti-Semitism (1992). He concluded: "I find it impossible to defend Pat Buchanan against the charge that what he did and said during the period under examination amounted to anti-Semitism." The Anti-Defamation League has called Buchanan an "unrepentant bigot" who "repeatedly demonizes Jews and minorities and openly affiliates with white supremacists." Conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer said about Buchanan that "There's no doubt he makes subliminal appeals to prejudice." Buchanan has adamantly denied that he is antisemitic, and a number of conservatives and his journalistic colleagues, some of them Jewish, including Jack Germond, Al Hunt, and Mark Shields, have defended him against the charge.
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Work for the Reagan White House
Buchanan served as White House Communications Director from 1985 to 1987. Buchanan supported President Reagan's plan to visit a German military cemetery at Bitburg in 1985, where among buried Wehrmacht soldiers were 48 buried Waffen SS members. Over the vocal objections of Jewish groups, the trip went through. In an interview, author Elie Wiesel described attending a White House meeting of Jewish leaders about the trip:
    The only one really defending the trip was Pat Buchanan, saying, 'We cannot give the perception of the President being subjected to Jewish pressure.'

Buchanan accused Wiesel of fabricating the story in an ABC interview in 1992:

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #11 on: July 18, 2014, 02:19:17 PM »
Argumentum ad lapidem (Latin: "to the stone") is a logical fallacy that consists in dismissing a statement as absurd without giving proof of its absurdity.[1] The form of argument employed by such dismissals is the argumentum ad lapidem, or appeal to the stone.[2][3]
Ad lapidem statements are fallacious because they fail to address the merits of the claim in dispute. Ad hominem arguments, which dispute the merits of a claim's advocate rather than the merits of the claim itself, are fallacious for the same reason.


An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.[2] Fallacious Ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely as a genetic fallacy,[6] a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.[7] Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates to the credibility of statements of fact.
Ad hominem arguments are the converse of appeals to authority, and may be used in response to such appeals.
Ad hominem as it is discussed in this article refers to the logical fallacy argumentum ad hominem, and not to the literal Latin phrase ad hominem.
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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #12 on: July 18, 2014, 02:50:59 PM »
Multi culturalism is for losers

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #13 on: July 18, 2014, 05:14:11 PM »
Argumentum ad lapidem (Latin: "to the stone") is a logical fallacy that consists in dismissing a statement as absurd without giving proof of its absurdity.[1] The form of argument employed by such dismissals is the argumentum ad lapidem, or appeal to the stone.[2][3]
Ad lapidem statements are fallacious because they fail to address the merits of the claim in dispute. Ad hominem arguments, which dispute the merits of a claim's advocate rather than the merits of the claim itself, are fallacious for the same reason.


An ad hominem (Latin for "to the man" or "to the person"[1]), short for argumentum ad hominem, is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument.[2] Fallacious Ad hominem reasoning is normally categorized as an informal fallacy,[3][4][5] more precisely as a genetic fallacy,[6] a subcategory of fallacies of irrelevance.[7] Ad hominem reasoning is not always fallacious, for example, when it relates to the credibility of statements of fact.
Ad hominem arguments are the converse of appeals to authority, and may be used in response to such appeals.
Ad hominem as it is discussed in this article refers to the logical fallacy argumentum ad hominem, and not to the literal Latin phrase ad hominem.

Gee, I hope no one got the idea that my wiki copy-pastas indicate my dismissal or rejection of the subject of the OP's post. 

Though I do generally think it's normally a good idea to "consider the source" before spending a lot of time thinking about (or sometimes even closely reading) political posts, I don't think it's wise to reject an argument for that reason alone.

BTW, Archer, how's your goat doing?  lol

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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #14 on: July 18, 2014, 05:32:14 PM »
Gee, I hope no one got the idea that my wiki copy-pastas indicate my dismissal or rejection of the subject of the OP's post. 

Though I do generally think it's normally a good idea to "consider the source" before spending a lot of time thinking about (or sometimes even closely reading) political posts, I don't think it's wise to reject an argument for that reason alone.

BTW, Archer, how's your goat doing?  lol


Asking me about my goat is to admit I still have it therefore you did not get it.  To answer your question, my goat is doing just find.  As usual hes raping the life out of your goat. 

You post makes no sense in any other context.  Youre attempting to discredit the contents by attacking the speaker
Unless you're just randomly posting.  That has been know to happen with a man of your advanced age. 
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Re: Former Colorado governor Dick Lamm on ''Multiculturalism''
« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2014, 06:04:43 PM »

Asking me about my goat is to admit I still have it therefore you did not get it.  To answer your question, my goat is doing just find.  As usual hes raping the life out of your goat. 

You post makes no sense in any other context.  Youre attempting to discredit the contents by attacking the speaker
Unless you're just randomly posting.  That has been know to happen with a man of your advanced age. 

Dream on.  My goat won't even give yours a disdainful look.

Why do you think I was trying to discredit anyone?  I included not a word of my own commentary.  And those guys are very well educated, after all. 

Seriously, don't you think there are folks who see the name "Victor Davis Hanson" and think, "This guy is always on point."?  Especially people who think or thought highly of his support of the US invasion of Iraq.

I guess, being young and inexperienced you are to be expected to want to throw in with the "less info is better" crowd, right? lol