Obama is clearly pussing out (Malaysian Airlines flight)

[Lustral]

Just on the news: Putin call Australian PM  WOW

"We give you gas, you say we not guilty, nyeah?"

[Teutonic Knight]

"We give you gas, you say we not guilty, nyeah?"

What gas 
Who is 'we' ?.

[Conker]

just watching sky news ,all the talk is about greater sanctions being placed against putin and russia. ffs no one even knows for certain yet who shot this fkin plane down, and it is pretty obvious who ever did it did not intentionally mean to shoot down a civilian plane. yet israel is currently, willingly slaughtering the sh.it out of 100s of kids in gaza and i'm yet to hear a single mention of any sanctions against israel...

[Teutonic Knight]

just watching sky news ,all the talk is about greater sanctions being placed against putin and russia. ffs no one even knows for certain yet who shot this fkin plane down, and it is pretty obvious who ever did it did not intentionally mean to shoot down a civilian plane. yet israel is currently, willingly slaughtering the sh.it out of 100s of kids in gaza and i'm yet to hear a single mention of any sanctions against israel...

Bullshit amigo, nobody would fire very expensive rocket NON intentionally, this is not New Year firework.
Hamas is/was firing rockets at any target in Jew land, Jews (love them or hate them) do it right way.

[syntaxmachine]

President Obama's foreign policy is implemented in the context of an increasingly dysfunctional political system (viz., Congress) and broad disillusionment with elites due to the events of 9/11, the Iraq War, the Great Recession, and the increasing economic vulnerability many face. The former hinders its effective implementation and the latter its interpretation by the decidedly ignorant masses, as indicated by this thread.

It also seems pretty clear that the events in Ukraine are noise in the long-term: a revanchist Russia isn't a remotely plausible threat to the US-led global order, because there simply isn't one, period. A new form of defeatism is defeated every decade, and this decade is no different. Though we won't rule forever, it will be a while yet before our time is up.

[Conker]

Bullshit amigo, nobody would fire very expensive rocket NON intentionally, this is not New Year firework.
Hamas is/was firing rockets at any target in Jew land, Jews (love them or hate them) do it right way.

yes "brains" not suggesting whoever fired the rocket pulled the trigger by accident but more likely misidentified what they were firing at...hamas hits fk all with it's rockets, but i suppose it's all they can do to oppose the illegal israeli occupation. unfortunately i can't see any other way for the palestinians to get israel to withdraw other than to keep sacrificing life and keep pushing israel to commit further atrocities. in the hope that one day the international community draws the line and forces israel to obey international law.

[Bosch]

just watching sky news ,all the talk is about greater sanctions being placed against putin and russia. ffs no one even knows for certain yet who shot this fkin plane down, and it is pretty obvious who ever did it did not intentionally mean to shoot down a civilian plane. yet israel is currently, willingly slaughtering the sh.it out of 100s of kids in gaza and i'm yet to hear a single mention of any sanctions against israel...

That's how modern mass media works. Enormous amount of disinformation, loud shouts on messages you need and vow of silence on everything can hinder your 'story'. If anyone starts to ask questions, yell even louder in their face. Hell, a solid periodical press have started to publish messages from social networks, without even checking these messages for validity. At such rate, soon UN and NATO will start to use twitter and youtube posts as evidences.
Lustral and Teutonic Man make perfect example of such approach in this thread - they keep posting that Putin is pure Satan in the flesh, ignoring the facts completely. Hey, he fucked your wives or what? : )

[Teutonic Knight]

yes "brains" not suggesting whoever fired the rocket pulled the trigger by accident but more likely misidentified what they were firing at...hamas hits fk all with it's rockets, but i suppose it's all they can do to oppose the illegal israeli occupation. unfortunately i can't see any other way for the palestinians to get israel to withdraw other than to keep sacrificing life and keep pushing israel to commit further atrocities. in the hope that one day the international community draws the line and forces israel to obey international law.

Bullshit again, locking radar system would tell operators plane direction/altitude,several other commercial planes were flaying on this flight path,even Lufthansa.
Not every drunken Russian can operate those rockets.

Who can force Jews from the Middle Earth ( ), 500 mil. fuck up Arabs  .Israel is Nato's military buddy + Iran & the US/Israel
old friendship is on again.Over 50 000 Jews live very comfortable in Tehran, so.
International "community"   , yeah right.

[Teutonic Knight]

That's how modern mass media works. Enormous amount of disinformation, loud shouts on messages you need and vow of silence on everything can hinder your 'story'. If anyone starts to ask questions, yell even louder in their face. Hell, a solid periodical press have started to publish messages from social networks, without even checking these messages for validity. At such rate, soon UN and NATO will start to use twitter and youtube posts as evidences.
Lustral and Teutonic Man make perfect example of such approach in this thread - they keep posting that Putin is pure Satan in the flesh, ignoring the facts completely. Hey, he fucked your wives or what? : )

Get real, Putin is product of old stalinist system & this is his only way.
Remember Pussy Riot 
 

[Bosch]

It's fifth day since the accident.
Still hear no information on experts group work. Are they there? If no, what's the reason for such delay?
Video from crash site showing journalists from around the world. Posted 2 days ago. Looks like zero problem for me, if you need to work there.

Meanwhile,UN already prepared new pack of sanctions on Russia, LOL.
A plane crashed in Ukraine, guided by air traffic rules by ukranian dispatcher, probably shot by ukranians who are in state of civil war. Where is Russia here?
Let's put more sanctions on Russia. Formal logic is dead.

[Bosch]

Get real, Putin is product of old stalinist system & this is his only way.
Remember Pussy Riot  
 

That's what I'm talking about. Stop all these "burn the witches" yells, it's not the Middle ages anymore.

And what's with Pussy Riot? They are bunch of dumb kids. Like Sex Pistols, but without any talent. They also liked to shout something. You seem to be a fan and have similar discussion manner. : )

[Roger Bacon]

Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/russia-says-has-photos-ukraine-deploying-buk-missiles-east-rader-proof-warplanes-mh1

[TheGrinch]

JUST IN FROM CNN:

Terror, terror, terror- fear, fear,fear. Rebels, militants, terrorists, separatists.... terror, terror, terror. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, Terror. Kerry said, Obama said, Officials said, terror, fear, rebels, terrorists, militants, 9/11, Obama said, State Department said, rebels, militants, terror !

[Roger Bacon]

JUST IN FROM CNN:

Terror, terror, terror- fear, fear,fear. Rebels, militants, terrorists, separatists.... terror, terror, terror. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, Terror. Kerry said, Obama said, Officials said, terror, fear, rebels, terrorists, militants, 9/11, Obama said, State Department said, rebels, militants, terror !

I'm feeling pretty scared and strangely patriotic. I'm ready to do the NWO's bidding. 

[Roger Bacon]

One more time...,

Excellent article, great breakdown for anyone that doesn't understand the situation...

 The Eurasian Chessboard: Brzezinski Mapped Out “The Battle for Ukraine” in 1997

By Chris Ernesto Global Research, March 16, 2014

It’s all about maintaining the US position as the world’s sole superpower Why would the United States run the risk of siding with anti-Semitic, neo-Nazis in Ukraine? One of the keys may be found by looking back at Zbigniew Brzezinski’s 1997 book, The Grand Chessboard in which he wrote, “Ukraine, a new and important space on the Eurasian chessboard, is a geopolitical pivot because its very existence as an independent country helps to transform Russia. Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be a Eurasian empire.”    “However, if Moscow regains control over Ukraine, with its 52 million people and major resources as well as access to the Black Sea, Russia automatically again regains the wherewithal to become a powerful imperial state, spanning Europe and Asia.” The former national security advisor to Jimmy Carter from 1977 to 1981 and top foreign policy advisor to Barack Obama, Brzezinski wrote that US policy should be “unapologetic” in perpetuating “America’s own dominant position for at least a generation and preferably longer still.” Brzezinski delved into the importance of little known Ukraine by explaining in his 1997 book, “Geopolitical pivots are the states whose importance is derived not from their power and motivation but rather from their sensitive location… which in some cases gives them a special role in either defining access to important areas or in denying resources to a significant player.” “Ukraine, Azerbaijan, South Korea, Turkey and Iran play the role of critically important geopolitical pivots,” he wrote in The Grand Chessboard, a book viewed by many as a blueprint for US world domination. Brzezinski wrote that Eurasia is “the chessboard on which the struggle for global primacy continues to be played,” and that “it is imperative that no Eurasian challenger emerges, capable of dominating Eurasia and thus also of challenging America.” Understanding Brzezinski’s long-term view of Ukraine makes it easier to comprehend why the US has given $5 billion to Ukraine since 1991, and why today it is hyper-concerned about having Ukraine remain in its sphere of influence. It may also help explain why in the past year the US and many of its media outlets have feverishly demonized Vladimir Putin. By prominently highlighting the mistreatment of activist group Pussy Riot, incessantly condemning Russia’s regressive position on gay rights, and excessively focusing on substandard accommodations at the Sochi Olympic Games, the Obama administration has cleverly distracted the public from delving into US support of the ultra-nationalist, neo-Nazi factions of the Ukrainian opposition, and has made it palatable for Americans to accept the US narrative on Ukraine. Interestingly enough, it was Brzezinski who first compared Putin to Hitler in a March 3 Washington Post Editorial. Hillary Clinton followed-up the next day with her comments comparing the two, followed by John McCain and Marco Rubio who on March 5 agreed with Clinton’s comments comparing Putin and Hitler. Apparently Brzezinski still continues to influence US political speak. In his book, Brzezinski contends that “America stands supreme in the four decisive domains of global power: militarily… economically… technologically… and culturally.” While this may have been accurate in 1997, it can be argued that today, other than militarily, the US no longer reigns supreme in these domains. So late last year when Ukraine’s now-ousted president Viktor Yanukovych surprisingly canceled plans for Ukrainian integration into the European Union in favor of stronger ties with Russia, the US may have viewed Ukraine as slipping even further out of its reach. At that point, with the pieces already in place, the US moved to support the ousting of Yanukovych, as evidenced by the leaked phone conversation between US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland and US Ambassador to Ukraine Geoffrey Pyatt. When peaceful protests were not effective in unseating Yanukovych, the violence of the ultra-nationalist Svoboda party and Right Sector was embraced, if not supported by the west. In today’s Ukraine, the US runs the risk of being affiliated with anti-Semitic neo-Nazis, a prospect it probably feels can be controlled via a friendly western media. But even if the risk is high, the US likely views it as necessary given the geopolitical importance of Ukraine, as Brzezinski mapped out in 1997. http://www.globalresearch.ca/theme/us-nato-war-agenda

[Conker]

Bullshit again, locking radar system would tell operators plane direction/altitude,several other commercial planes were flaying on this flight path,even Lufthansa.
Not every drunken Russian can operate those rockets.

Who can force Jews from the Middle Earth ( ), 500 mil. fuck up Arabs  .Israel is Nato's military buddy + Iran & the US/Israel
old friendship is on again.Over 50 000 Jews live very comfortable in Tehran, so.
International "community"   , yeah right.

so you think they(whoever) shot down a civilian plane intentionally, sure because which ever side did it, really furthers their cause

it will happen eventually, the US has zero credibility trying to play upholder of international law while it continues to sponsor israel's destruction of palestine. israel cannot survive without US/western sponsorship, eventually they will be stopped, same as the apartheid regime of south africa eventually was.

[Mawse]

 They learned in Syria that even getting the Turks to gas a preschool for us isn't enough to get a apathetic US public behind our bankers foreign policy. Airlines are a good fallback, they couldn't have this one flown into a building but at least they've managed to paint Putin as being personally at the controls.

 Unfortunately there seem to be some reporters not falling in line but the mass of state media is doing a great job of shouting them out

[TheGrinch]

US got Ukraine to try and shoot down Putin's plane but instead they took down a civilian airliner instead, it was supposed to be Putin's plane that was flying in the same airspace...

was an accident and the US is pissed now so they need to make shit up

[Bosch]

Russia Says Has Photos Of Ukraine Deploying BUK Missiles In East, Radar Proof Of Warplanes In MH17 Vicinity

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-21/russia-says-has-photos-ukraine-deploying-buk-missiles-east-rader-proof-warplanes-mh1

Wow, actually there is official pictures from satellites and graphical infromation from radar stations revealed on todays russian Ministry of Defense press conference. It's not someones twitter or hysteria from CNN. It can't get more real than that.
Here is fuller video from that link:

Satellite images shown from 7.20. Russians need to find a better interpreter, that girl speaks so slooow.

1. Crashed Boeing was diverted from the normal route to the point where war operation is ongoing and where Kiev deployed anti air stations (for what? rebels don't have any aviation). Controlling civil aircraft routes is the task of dispatcher of the country to which the air space belongs to. Basically, ukranian dispatcher lead civil aircraft straight to the battlefield.
2. Intel report shows that american satellite was just above the crash site - but information from that satellite wasn't presented to the world community, just daily dose of "we think" from US department of state.
3. It also shows ukranian military aircraft was near the civil aircraft and ukranian Buk M-1 station near the crash site before the accident, though Kiev denies involvement. Then they shot russian civil plane above the black sea ten years ago their reaction was the same.

Now it will be ignored by world mass media or played down, since it's impractical to USA to give up on heating up Ukraine problem after they spent billions of dollars to make that civil war happen.

[Kim Jong Bob]

Putin about usas new sanctionplans : -"cri me a river"

[Roger Bacon]

Wow, actually there is official pictures from satellites and graphical infromation from radar stations revealed on todays russian Ministry of Defense press conference. It's not someones twitter or hysteria from CNN. It can't get more real than that.
Here is fuller video from that link:

Satellite images shown from 7.20. Russians need to find a better interpreter, that girl speaks so slooow.

1. Crashed Boeing was diverted from the normal route to the point where war operation is ongoing and where Kiev deployed anti air stations (for what? rebels don't have any aviation). Controlling civil aircraft routes is the task of dispatcher of the country to which the air space belongs to. Basically, ukranian dispatcher lead civil aircraft straight to the battlefield.
2. Intel report shows that american satellite was just above the crash site - but information from that satellite wasn't presented to the world community, just daily dose of "we think" from US department of state.
3. It also shows ukranian military aircraft was near the civil aircraft and ukranian Buk M-1 station near the crash site before the accident, though Kiev denies involvement. Then they shot russian civil plane above the black sea ten years ago their reaction was the same.

Now it will be ignored by world mass media or played down, since it's impractical to USA to give up on heating up Ukraine problem after they spent billions of dollars to make that civil war happen.

Unbelievable.... Hope he's able to out maneuver these sociopathic globalists again. 

[Teutonic Knight]

That's what I'm talking about. Stop all these "burn the witches" yells, it's not the Middle ages anymore.

And what's with Pussy Riot? They are bunch of dumb kids. Like Sex Pistols, but without any talent. They also liked to shout something. You seem to be a fan and have similar discussion manner. : )

Nobody lock up pop or rock bands on the west for singing anti establishment songs.
Visit Russia, then talk.
 

[Teutonic Knight]

so you think they(whoever) shot down a civilian plane intentionally, sure because which ever side did it, really furthers their cause

it will happen eventually, the US has zero credibility trying to play upholder of international law while it continues to sponsor israel's destruction of palestine. israel cannot survive without US/western sponsorship, eventually they will be stopped, same as the apartheid regime of south africa eventually was.

So U a Arab, right.
Why, that Allah doesn't stop Jews if he is so macho 
Surprise,surprise Persians don't give a fuck about Gaza 

[Skeletor]

Nobody lock up pop or rock bands on the west for singing anti establishment songs.
Visit Russia, then talk.
 

You are obviously unaware of the troubles Behemoth and Gorgoroth faced in Poland.

[ChopperRider]

JUST IN FROM CNN:

Terror, terror, terror- fear, fear,fear. Rebels, militants, terrorists, separatists.... terror, terror, terror. 9/11, 9/11, 9/11, Terror. Kerry said, Obama said, Officials said, terror, fear, rebels, terrorists, militants, 9/11, Obama said, State Department said, rebels, militants, terror !

Keeps everyone's attention off the economy, Obamacare, the failed stimulus, and the border.....