5 NYPD cops choke unarmed man to death

[tonymctones]

Your question was "Where did I say all bets are off and you will get choked to death?"
You've said that almost word for word multiple times.

And I've already said several times that even if they do "get physical" they should behave lawfully.

actually I have never said you deserve to die anywhere, please post where I said that.

As agnostic has already said, a chokehold is not ILLEGAL!!!

[tonymctones]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/04/us/eric-garner-chokehold-debate/

New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said that no local laws criminalize chokeholds, though they are prohibited by his department. In fact, the NYPD could discipline Pantaleo or his fellow officers if an ongoing internal review finds their actions did not align with police department procedures.

The New York City medical examiner's office also offered pertinent facts when it classified Garner's death as a homicide this summer. He died because of a "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police,"[/glow] the office found, while also calling Garner's "acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease" contributing factors.

[tonymctones]

so we now know:

1. I never said he deserved to die
2. The cop acted lawfully as the chokehold was not illegal
3. The chokehold alone was not the sole cause of his death

[Al Doggity]

actually I have never said you deserve to die anywhere, please post where I said that.

As agnostic has already said, a chokehold is not ILLEGAL!!!

This was your post:

isnt the same fucking thing you moron, where did I say all bets are off and you will get choked to death?


You asked me to show you where you said all bets are off and you will get choked to death. Now you are c hanging it to show me where I said you deserve to die. I was clearly being sarcastic there, based on the previous stupidity you actually did spout, idiot.

[Al Doggity]

New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said that no local laws criminalize chokeholds, though they are prohibited by his department.

[tonymctones]

so we now know:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/04/us/eric-garner-chokehold-debate/

New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said that no local laws criminalize chokeholds, though they are prohibited by his department. In fact, the NYPD could discipline Pantaleo or his fellow officers if an ongoing internal review finds their actions did not align with police department procedures.

The New York City medical examiner's office also offered pertinent facts when it classified Garner's death as a homicide this summer. He died because of a "compression of neck (chokehold), compression of chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police,"[/glow] the office found, while also calling Garner's "acute and chronic bronchial asthma, obesity and hypertensive cardiovascular disease" contributing factors.

nothing stupid in this post moron,

or this one

1. I never said he deserved to die
2. The cop acted lawfully as the chokehold was not illegal
3. The chokehold alone was not the sole cause of his death

[tonymctones]

New York Police Commissioner William Bratton said that no local laws criminalize chokeholds, though they are prohibited by his department.

yes albert, that means he broke no laws only that he may have broke the SOP.

HE BROKE NO LAWS!!! you fucktard!!!!

[Al Doggity]

yes albert, that means he broke no laws only that he may have broke the SOP.

HE BROKE NO LAWS!!! you fucktard!!!!

Why do you think it's prohibited, dummy? cuz it looks gay? or maybe another reason?

[tonymctones]

Why do you think it's prohibited, dummy? cuz it looks gay? or maybe another reason?

did he break the law or not dummy?

[Al Doggity]

did he break the law or not dummy?

Why is the chokehold prohibited?

[tonymctones]

Why is the chokehold prohibited?

it was prohibited by the department but legal to use.

If you want him charged in a court of LAW....what law did he break?

[Al Doggity]

it was prohibited by the department but legal to use.

If you want him charged in a court of LAW....what law did he break?

Murder or manslaughter

[tonymctones]

Murder.

LMFAO so in trying to detain a suspect who was PHYSICALLY RESISTING arrest the officer used a legal manuver to detain the suspect and to you thats murder?

hahah like I told andre, its no wonder blacks have such problems with law enforcement. The general understanding of the law and how it works is woefully bad.

[Al Doggity]

LMFAO so in trying to detain a suspect who was PHYSICALLY RESISTING arrest the officer used a legal manuver to detain the suspect and to you thats murder?

Why is the chokehold prohibited, retardo?

[tonymctones]

Why is the chokehold prohibited, retardo?

hahah again just woefully ignorant misunderstanding of how the law works.

why its prohibited is IRRELEVANT!!!

IS IT ILLEGAL?

DID HE BREAK THE LAW BY USING IT?

WAS HE WITHIN HIS LEGAL RIGHT TO USE IT IN DETAINING THE SUSPECT?

[tonymctones]

Why is the chokehold prohibited, retardo?

look if youre building a case for a civil lawsuit you probably have a open and shut case but youre arguing for criminal charges where no law was broken...

[Al Doggity]

You know the answer

[tonymctones]

You know the answer

I do know the answer and it is...why its prohibited is irrelevant, it is legal for them to use it and thus they break no law when they do

no matter how a person who doesnt understand how the law works FEELS about it

[Al Doggity]

its obvious you wont answer b/c it destroys your idiotic argument

[tonymctones]

it was true when I said it and even more so now....

he broke no law by using a chokehold, sorry albert simple feelings (and I emphasize SIMPLE) doesnt make an argument

[andreisdaman]

it was true when I said it and even more so now....

he broke no law by using a chokehold, sorry albert simple feelings (and I emphasize SIMPLE) doesnt make an argument

He broke the law by killing the guy

[Al Doggity]

it was true when I said it and even more so now....

Except I had already answered that question several times in this thread.

Why is the chokehold prohibited?

[andreisdaman]

Except I had already answered that question several times in this thread.

Why is the chokehold prohibited?

chokehold prohibited due to a rash of deaths of perps by cops  in the 1980's attributed to its use

[240 is Back]

they did that nice trick from "american gangster".  Russell crowe's partner kills a guy.. but they pretend he's alive to pacify a crowd of people.  In this case, it's only a few people with cell phones watching... but the dude is fading, unconscious, pulse either fading fast or gone, compeltely nonresponsive - and they keep him in cuffs on the ground instead of putting him in

that shit about "he died in the hospital" actually means "he wasn't pronounced dead until he got to the hospital".

It looks a lot like he's checking out on the ground - procedure is to take the handcuffs of a non-reponsive/unconscious/fading person and use CPR or other means, get him to the ER.   TWO PARAMEDICS were suspended for their behavior that day, correct?  So before anyone just creates "they did nothing wrong...", let's look at those suspensions.

[andreisdaman]

they did that nice trick from "american gangster".  Russell crowe's partner kills a guy.. but they pretend he's alive to pacify a crowd of people.  In this case, it's only a few people with cell phones watching... but the dude is fading, unconscious, pulse either fading fast or gone, compeltely nonresponsive - and they keep him in cuffs on the ground instead of putting him in

that shit about "he died in the hospital" actually means "he wasn't pronounced dead until he got to the hospital".

It looks a lot like he's checking out on the ground - procedure is to take the handcuffs of a non-reponsive/unconscious/fading person and use CPR or other means, get him to the ER.   TWO PARAMEDICS were suspended for their behavior that day, correct?  So before anyone just creates "they did nothing wrong...", let's look at those suspensions.

Good point..people just aren't familiar with all the tricks the cops use to keep themselves out of trouble..they lie just like everyone else does when they are in trouble..this attitude that the cops are so holy is mystifying to me