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ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« on: July 20, 2014, 08:49:56 PM »
IT IS OFFICIAL!   Fox news is officially a shitbag, liberal, obama-kneepadding amnesty machine.  They're shitting all over Cruz because... drum roll please... he wants to actually enforce American immigration law.   

LOL @ The bolded part... Chris Wallace whining because we don't just let illegals come here because it's bad in their country.  Hey, it's bad in North Korea too... who wants 5 million north korean children arriving tomorrow?  lol.  Pathetic all the way.   Shame on you, fox news and all who support you.

Fox host calls out Ted Cruz’s false compassion on border crisis: Your plan ‘doesn’t help the kids’

Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) on Sunday declared that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) and other Democrats “want” a situation where refugee children were maimed and brutalized.

In an interview on Fox News, Cruz told host Chris Wallace that Reid and President Barack Obama were holding thousands of children “ransom” because they had been unwilling to “fix the problem” by deporting every undocumented immigrant child in the U.S.

“You keep talking about helping the kids,” Wallace noted. “One question I have is, how do you help the kids — I understand how it helps the United States not to allow them to come into this country — how does it help the kids to just say, ‘Hey, you’ve got to stay in Central America.’”

“You talk about the violence in Central America, the murder rate in some of these countries,” Wallace added. “I’m not saying it’s our responsibility to help the kids, but it doesn’t help the kids.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/07/20/fox-host-calls-out-ted-cruzs-false-compassion-on-border-crisis-your-plan-doesnt-help-the-kids/

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2014, 10:05:39 AM »
Another day, another lie.  Nothing new here. 

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2014, 10:12:26 AM »
Just asking a question here... Whose law was implemented in 2008 that forbade the immediate deportation if children?

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2014, 10:13:31 AM »
No idea.

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2014, 10:16:30 AM »
In fact, desperate Central American parents are exploiting separate legal loopholes in American border security passed before Obama took office.

Unaccompanied minors fall under the bipartisan law, William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

That law says the children cannot be sent back. They must instead be held humanely by the Department of Health and Human Services until the courts release them to a “suitable family member” in this country.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/analysis-whats-the-real-reason-behind-central-american-immigrant-wave-u-s-law/&sa=U&ei=lErNU-P6AYf1oATco4KIAw&ved=0CCMQFjAD&sig2=a1z3JLcojLsQi7ifQjOXoQ&usg=AFQjCNHJ99Av-S_5Xnwnudn-2X5B6HS7Ew

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2014, 10:18:43 AM »
In fact, desperate Central American parents are exploiting separate legal loopholes in American border security passed before Obama took office.

Unaccompanied minors fall under the bipartisan law, William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

That law says the children cannot be sent back. They must instead be held humanely by the Department of Health and Human Services until the courts release them to a “suitable family member” in this country.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/analysis-whats-the-real-reason-behind-central-american-immigrant-wave-u-s-law/&sa=U&ei=lErNU-P6AYf1oATco4KIAw&ved=0CCMQFjAD&sig2=a1z3JLcojLsQi7ifQjOXoQ&usg=AFQjCNHJ99Av-S_5Xnwnudn-2X5B6HS7Ew


Even if true ("exploiting separate legal loopholes") that does't excuse poor leadership on this issue.  The buck stops at the top. Or at least it did before Obama took office. 

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2014, 10:23:58 AM »
In fact, desperate Central American parents are exploiting separate legal loopholes in American border security passed before Obama took office.

Unaccompanied minors fall under the bipartisan law, William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, which passed the House and Senate unanimously and was signed into law by President George W. Bush.

That law says the children cannot be sent back. They must instead be held humanely by the Department of Health and Human Services until the courts release them to a “suitable family member” in this country.

http://www.google.com/url?q=http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/analysis-whats-the-real-reason-behind-central-american-immigrant-wave-u-s-law/&sa=U&ei=lErNU-P6AYf1oATco4KIAw&ved=0CCMQFjAD&sig2=a1z3JLcojLsQi7ifQjOXoQ&usg=AFQjCNHJ99Av-S_5Xnwnudn-2X5B6HS7Ew


So why now all of a sudden?

If this was truly to blame, we would have seen this in 2008, 2009, 2010... why did they just randomly hold off until 2014?  ::)

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2014, 10:29:13 AM »
Even if true ("exploiting separate legal loopholes") that does't excuse poor leadership on this issue.  The buck stops at the top. Or at least it did before Obama took office. 

then if he supercedes a LAW....hes called a Tyrant, king, and blah blah...



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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2014, 10:31:00 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/02/immigration-obama-deportation-children-border/11915723/

but who gives a shit.. theyre just facts....what do the talking heads tell me?

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2014, 10:32:10 AM »
then if he supercedes a LAW....hes called a Tyrant, king, and blah blah...


If he doesn't enforce the law he is violating his Constitutional duty as president.  But I don't think anyone is asking him to not enforce the law or "supercede" the law.  He needs to do his friggin job.

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2014, 10:32:38 AM »
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/02/immigration-obama-deportation-children-border/11915723/

but who gives a shit.. theyre just facts....what do the talking heads tell me?

He should not be allowing them to get here in the first place moron

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2014, 10:53:16 AM »
IF Fox News says it, it is because Rupert M. wants it.
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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2014, 10:59:07 AM »
So why now all of a sudden?

If this was truly to blame, we would have seen this in 2008, 2009, 2010... why did they just randomly hold off until 2014?  ::)

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 07:37:37 AM »
So why now all of a sudden?

If this was truly to blame, we would have seen this in 2008, 2009, 2010... why did they just randomly hold off until 2014?  ::)

Still crickets...

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2014, 08:45:51 AM »
Just asking a question here... Whose law was implemented in 2008 that forbade the immediate deportation if children?

And you think that conservatives supported Bush's view of illegal immigration?

You are another low information voter. Step off child. You know nothing.

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 08:51:46 AM »
How does that help the children?

USA doesn't need to help them. That help needs to come from their own home countries. Why are the dumocrats and the RINOs not putting any responsibility on those foreign countries? It is their responsibility to crack down on crime.


By the way, where can we send all those children from Chicago, St. Louis and Compton that live every day in danger of falling victim to gang violence? Canada?

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 09:02:19 AM »
And you think that conservatives supported Bush's view of illegal immigration?

You are another low information voter. Step off child. You know nothing.

what does that have to do with the price of tea in china...
There is a law in place. He is following the law.
Nothing more to talk about..
No go run along and get "information" from sean hannity and rush limbaugh

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 11:55:30 AM »
How does that help the children?

USA doesn't need to help them. That help needs to come from their own home countries. Why are the dumocrats and the RINOs not putting any responsibility on those foreign countries? It is their responsibility to crack down on crime.

Perry said their deaths are on Obama's hands.

IMO, Obama is acting like a republincan here - Perry is the lib that wants to use US resources to help illegals.

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2014, 12:18:01 PM »
And of course all these libtards focus on the children. Awwwwww, the poor little kids. Look at them. So innocent. So much in need. Forget the law, just give'm amnesty.

The fact is only 1/4 of those crossing are children or less than 18 years old. Probably even less under the age of 10.

Their age shouldn't matter anyway. They all have to go back.

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2014, 01:36:55 PM »
And of course all these libtards focus on the children. Awwwwww, the poor little kids. Look at them. So innocent. So much in need. Forget the law, just give'm amnesty.The fact is only 1/4 of those crossing are children or less than 18 years old. Probably even less under the age of 10.

Their age shouldn't matter anyway. They all have to go back.

oh Jesus H Christ, talk about "low information"

The law that Bush put in place in 2008 made it illegal to deport the children tho crossed the border......you did know that right?

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2014, 01:41:34 PM »
oh Jesus H Christ, talk about "low information"

The law that Bush put in place in 2008 made it illegal to deport the children tho crossed the border......you did know that right?

You sure about that?  You're taking a sentence from an op ed piece and running with it.  Are these kids victims of human trafficking? 

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« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2014, 02:17:31 PM »
You sure about that?  You're taking a sentence from an op ed piece and running with it.  Are these kids victims of human trafficking? 

glad you asked.... give me a sec

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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2014, 02:21:13 PM »
1) http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2014/06/analysis-whats-the-real-reason-behind-central-american-immigrant-wave-u-s-law/
2) http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/07/02/immigration-obama-deportation-children-border/11915723/
3) http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/15/politics/immigration-unintended-consequences/

Washington (CNN) -- It was a good idea back in 2008, in the final days of the Bush administration.

With almost no opposition, Congress passed a new law to protect immigrant children from sex traffickers trying to bring them to the United States. It required judges to hold hearings for youngsters from countries other than neighboring Mexico and Canada, preventing them from possibly getting turned away at the border.

More than five years later, though, the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Action Act is having unintended consequences. It contributes to the surge of child migrants from Central America overwhelming the U.S. immigration system.



Immigration Debate

'Documented' reporter detained at airport Now some in Congress want to change the law -- a possibility that could bring more unintended consequences


How did a law aimed at sex traffickers play a role in Central American kids coming here?

A desire to crack down on the global child slave trade led to the law named for a 19th Century British abolitionist. President George W. Bush signed it the month before he left the White House.

It ensured that children who came to the United States got a full immigration hearing instead of being turned away or sent back. The goal of the hearing? To determine if the children had a valid claim for asylum.

Here's the catch: The immigration courts are so backlogged that it can take years for a child's hearing date to come around. As they wait, most stay with relatives or friends already in the country, attend school and generally go about their lives.

It didn't take long for word to spread to families in Central America: Send the kids, and they'll end up in immigration limbo with little threat of deportation -- all the while getting a decent education.


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Re: ITS OFFICIAL! Fox host calls out Ted Cruz
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2014, 02:25:45 PM »
http://www.thedenverchannel.com/decodedc/bush-era-law-makes-it-hard-to-return-unaccompanied-kids-to-central-america

But a 2008 law makes it nearly impossible to repatriate unaccompanied minors to Central America without letting them appear before an immigration judge. And so now the president is seeking to change that law. Obama sent a letter to House Speaker John A. Boehner, R-Ohio, last week saying he would ask Congress to give the Homeland Security secretary more flexibility to send minors back to Central America.

Just before leaving office, on Dec. 23, 2008, George W. Bush signed into law the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act. This bipartisan measure, named for a 19th century British abolitionist, was aimed at extending and beefing up efforts to prevent and prosecute human trafficking and protect the victims of trafficking.  More importantly, it described exactly how unaccompanied children crossing the border must be treated.