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Building massive quads without squats
« on: July 22, 2014, 08:08:03 AM »
There is no excuse not to squat but if you have a bad back or knees you get a pass, follow the trainer principles to blow up your quads.

On the leg press go all the way down and back up without locking out until you feel the burn then pause for 2 sec without locking out and crunch out an extra two reps. 20-25 reps dont go below 15 reps.

On the hack squats go all the way down and back up to slightly above parallel no lockout and feel the burn 15 to 20 reps.

Your quads should be fried like chicken.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2014, 08:09:51 AM »
There is no excuse not to squat but if you have a bad back or knees you get a pass, follow the trainer principles to blow up your quads.

On the leg press go all the way down and back up without locking out until you feel the burn then pause for 2 sec without locking out and crunch out an extra two reps. 20-25 reps dont go below 15 reps.

On the hack squats go all the way down and back up to slightly above parallel no lockout and feel the burn 15 to 20 reps.

Your quads should be fried like chicken.
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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2014, 08:18:20 AM »
Or be a real man and ignore knee and back pain, scream like a maniac and get those squats done. The only people with a real excuse not to squat are those who are paralysed or have no legs.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #3 on: July 22, 2014, 08:28:34 AM »
Or be a real man and ignore knee and back pain, scream like a maniac and get those squats done. The only people with a real excuse not to squat are those who are paralysed or have no legs.

I like how you think bro that is how I do it, but the average gymrat is not hardcore like us so that is why I made that routine.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #4 on: July 22, 2014, 08:29:20 AM »
Or be a real man and ignore knee and back pain, scream like a maniac and get those squats done. The only people with a real excuse not to squat are those who are paralysed or have no legs.

Even paralysis is not really an excuse as tandem/assisted squats are always an option


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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2014, 08:31:05 AM »
yeah I do the one legged leg presses sometimes when my knee feels like shit

you can actually get a better mind-muscle connection using one leg at a time and it's nice to swich things up from the regular squats and legpresses

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2014, 08:35:26 AM »
yeah I do the one legged leg presses sometimes when my knee feels like shit

you can actually get a better mind-muscle connection using one leg at a time and it's nice to swich things up from the regular squats and legpresses

Yes I actually think working one leg at a time is better for specific "leg" development.

You can use a lot more weight with two legs (much more than 2x the weight of one leg) but I suspect most of that extra load is on low back / trunk / etc. not the leg muscles.

These are my philosophies.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2014, 09:05:28 AM »
Yes I actually think working one leg at a time is better for specific "leg" development.

You can use a lot more weight with two legs (much more than 2x the weight of one leg) but I suspect most of that extra load is on low back / trunk / etc. not the leg muscles.

These are my philosophies.

exactly.

if I want to work the outer sweep then I will do one leg at a time. as said you can really focus better on the specific muscle area

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #8 on: July 22, 2014, 09:24:58 AM »
Vince was an advocate of the no squat leg workout for many a year..Leg press was his staple.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #9 on: July 22, 2014, 09:30:33 AM »
Vince was an advocate of the no squat leg workout for many a year..Leg press was his staple.


You're correct, this was was Vince's approach and as it turns out quads and hams were his weakest bodyparts his entire pro bb career.

I'm of the opinion that if you're able to squat then squat.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #10 on: July 22, 2014, 09:40:29 AM »
Or be a real man and ignore knee and back pain, scream like a maniac and get those squats done. The only people with a real excuse not to squat are those who are paralysed or have no legs.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #11 on: July 22, 2014, 09:45:33 AM »
There is no excuse not to squat but if you have a bad back or knees you get a pass, follow the trainer principles to blow up your quads.

On the leg press go all the way down and back up without locking out until you feel the burn then pause for 2 sec without locking out and crunch out an extra two reps. 20-25 reps dont go below 15 reps.

On the hack squats go all the way down and back up to slightly above parallel no lockout and feel the burn 15 to 20 reps.

Your quads should be fried like chicken.
Hack squats are 10 times worse than squats for the knees  :-\
choice is an illusion

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #12 on: July 22, 2014, 10:09:15 AM »
Even paralysis is not really an excuse as tandem/assisted squats are always an option


^^^^^^
Could this guy's posts be any more boring and plain?

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #13 on: July 22, 2014, 10:12:41 AM »
^^^^^^
Could this guy's posts be any more boring and plain?

Perhaps your limited intellect cannot comprehend satire?

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #14 on: July 22, 2014, 10:20:31 AM »
Perhaps your limited intellect cannot comprehend satire?
I said his post was boring. Not sure how you formulated your nonsensical response to that.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2014, 10:28:41 AM »
Cycling (no homo) with strong added resistance builds upper legs almost as well imo...and the best part is that you can actually walk normally the next few days..unlike with squats...and it puts virtually no stress on you back or joints...also unlike squats


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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2014, 10:35:10 AM »
maybe this??

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2014, 10:43:18 AM »
Some people like to use the squat machine.


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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2014, 10:51:50 AM »
^^^^^^
Could this guy's posts be any more boring and plain?

Speaking of boring and plain Eric, how long are you going to keep up this tired old shtick?

You are clearly trying to punch above your weight and are incapable of getting me to stop posting so maybe a new tactic is needed.

Although since you were "educated" at a bible "school" I doubt you have the mental flexibility for much else.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2014, 10:55:40 AM »
There is no excuse not to squat but if you have a bad back or knees you get a pass, follow the trainer principles to blow up your quads.

On the leg press go all the way down and back up without locking out until you feel the burn then pause for 2 sec without locking out and crunch out an extra two reps. 20-25 reps dont go below 15 reps.

On the hack squats go all the way down and back up to slightly above parallel no lockout and feel the burn 15 to 20 reps.

Your quads should be fried like chicken.

That's exactly what I do AFTER my squats

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2014, 10:58:03 AM »
Vince was an advocate of the no squat leg workout for many a year..Leg press was his staple.


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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2014, 11:11:55 AM »
Back in the days you couldn't




Nowadays you can build a physiqe like that on cable and machine movements


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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #22 on: July 22, 2014, 11:14:02 AM »
There is no need to squat and whether there's a need to leg press is debatable.

A good legworkout would be leg extension, lunges and leg curls.

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #23 on: July 22, 2014, 11:17:28 AM »
There is no need to squat and whether there's a need to leg press is debatable.

A good legworkout would be leg extension, lunges and leg curls.

exactly how these are built

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Re: Building massive quads without squats
« Reply #24 on: July 22, 2014, 11:19:13 AM »
There is no excuse not to squat but if you have a bad back or knees you get a pass, follow the trainer principles to blow up your quads.

On the leg press go all the way down and back up without locking out until you feel the burn then pause for 2 sec without locking out and crunch out an extra two reps. 20-25 reps dont go below 15 reps.

On the hack squats go all the way down and back up to slightly above parallel no lockout and feel the burn 15 to 20 reps.

Your quads should be fried like chicken.

You trollin hard or hardly trollin, "the trainer"?

Dude, describe this leg press rom. Sounds like my ass would be leaving the seat compromising my trouble lumbar.

If my knees were problematic, would you still recommend the rom on hacks?