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Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« on: July 24, 2014, 11:21:28 AM »
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Donetsk, Ukraine (CNN) - The United States said Thursday it has proof that Russia is firing into Ukraine.

Also Thursday, Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk and his Cabinet announced their resignation in what Ukrainian political experts said was an expected development. Yatsenyuk and his Cabinet will remain in place as an acting government until elections in October.

The Ukrainian government has been battling pro-Russian rebels in eastern Ukraine. More than 400 people have died in the fighting, the government has said.

 
"We have new evidence that the Russians intend to deliver heavier and more powerful multiple rocket launchers to the separatist forces in Ukraine and have evidence that Russia is firing artillery from within Russia to attack Ukrainian military positions," said State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf.


http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/24/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?c=homepage-t

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 11:26:35 AM »
Just trying to push Wehrmacht out.
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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 01:09:35 PM »
If this is coming directly from russia itself and not its militant proxies in ukraine, it could be a pretty big deal...

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 04:38:45 PM »
If this is coming directly from russia itself and not its militant proxies in ukraine, it could be a pretty big deal...

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/07/24/obama-administration-russia-firing-artillery-at-ukraine-military-targets/

Obama administration officials said Thursday that Russia is firing artillery from its own territory into Ukraine to hit Ukrainian military sites, pointing to escalating Russian involvement in the deadly conflict.

"This clearly is a military escalation," Pentagon spokesman Col. Steve Warren said, adding there is no question that Russian military -- as opposed to Russia-backed separatists -- are firing the shots.

State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf first made the accusation during a press briefing earlier Thursday. She also claimed Moscow is boosting its military shipments to pro-Russian separatists.

"We have new evidence that the Russians intend to deliver heavier and more powerful multiple rocket launchers to separatist forces in Ukraine and have evidence that Russia is firing artillery from within Russian to attack Ukrainian military positions," Harf told reporters.

She said the evidence derived from "human intelligence information" but declined to elaborate, saying it would compromise sources and methods of intelligence collection.

The Pentagon, though, confirmed her account, and said Russia has been firing artillery for several days now.

The allegations come amid an increasingly bitter war of words between Washington and Moscow over the crisis in Ukraine and conflicting claims over the downing of a Malaysian passenger jet over eastern Ukraine last week.

The U.S. repeatedly has accused Russia of stoking the Ukraine rebellion and has said it believes separatists shot down the Malaysian plane, killing nearly 300 people, with a Russian provided surface-to-air missile.

Harf said Wednesday the ultimate responsibility for the downing of the plane rests with Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Russian government.

Meanwhile, additional military aircraft carrying remains of victims from the Malaysian plane disaster arrived in the Netherlands on Thursday, while Australian and Dutch diplomats joined to promote a plan for a U.N. team to secure the crash site which has been controlled by pro-Russian rebels.

On Monday, the U.N. Security Council unanimously approved a resolution proposed by Australia demanding that rebels cooperate with an independent investigation and allow all remaining bodies to be recovered.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2014, 01:43:16 AM »
It's happening!  All of you able bodied men better be able to shoot straight because the shit is hitting the fan.  Permabulkers are going to be in trouble when the ground war starts.  I suggest getbiggers start cutting calories and doing cardio.

In war, if you can't run...it's time to die.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2014, 01:58:34 AM »
the world is on the verge of very bad things

they need to get rid of putin

he is a war bringer
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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2014, 07:13:36 AM »
there wont be any war as long as economies are still up. No oligarch wants to ruin himself.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2014, 07:23:42 AM »
Strange how there very little coverage of this in the media. If Russia itself is actually directly attacking Ukraine, it would be a HUGE escalation of the situation and have possible massive implications. Takes it to a whole new level. It also shows Putin and russia, rather than defusing the situation over the plane, clearly do not give a single fuck about anything obama or the West says or threatens, which itself has big implications.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2014, 07:26:04 AM »
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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2014, 07:42:56 AM »
Strange how there very little coverage of this in the media. If Russia itself is actually directly attacking Ukraine, it would be a HUGE escalation of the situation and have possible massive implications. Takes it to a whole new level. It also shows Putin and russia, rather than defusing the situation over the plane, clearly do not give a single fuck about anything obama or the West says or threatens, which itself has big implications.

I am considering opening a business in Moscow (don't ask).  The Russians truly do not give a fuck, they support Putin, they think the MH17 thing is mostly Western propaganda, and they are ready for a fight.  They also think Obama is a joke.

The best thing that can happen is the US gets a President they respect and everyone goes back to wanting to make money.


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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 07:43:20 AM »
Your source is CNN?... the C.omedy N.ews N.etwork

MSM news is a joke.  They all read from the same script.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2014, 07:45:29 AM »

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2014, 07:46:50 AM »
Your source is CNN?... the C.omedy N.ews N.etwork

MSM news is a joke.  They all read from the same script.


You're right. There is no conflict. No fighting. Russia & Ukraine are BFF's.


There is no fighting in Gaza either.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2014, 07:59:25 AM »
Strange how there very little coverage of this in the media. If Russia itself is actually directly attacking Ukraine, it would be a HUGE escalation of the situation and have possible massive implications. Takes it to a whole new level. It also shows Putin and russia, rather than defusing the situation over the plane, clearly do not give a single fuck about anything obama or the West says or threatens, which itself has big implications.
no. Rich people lead the world and their economic interests dont require wars. You guys dont understand that there will probably be no world war ever again.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2014, 08:06:58 AM »
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I am considering opening a business in Moscow (don't ask).  The Russians truly do not give a fuck, they support Putin, they think the MH17 thing is mostly Western propaganda, and they are ready for a fight.  They also think Obama is a joke.

The best thing that can happen is the US gets a President they respect and everyone goes back to wanting to make money.


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Thats good to hear. Russia plays a very important role in todays world, the counterbalance they provide is much needed.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 08:18:36 AM »
So what?

Maybe Ukraine has WMDs that would be a threat to Russia within 45 minutes.


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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 08:43:32 AM »
"Now that's good work.  The skulls, the bodies.  You give it such a glow. I don't know if it's art, but I like it." -The Joker

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2014, 08:44:16 AM »
FUCKING OBAMA

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2014, 08:48:21 AM »
We should fire our shit too.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2014, 08:49:19 AM »

You're right. There is no conflict. No fighting. Russia & Ukraine are BFF's.


There is no fighting in Gaza either.

Yes, but you completely miss my point... just like all the other MSM zombified sheeple.  

The reasons they are giving you why/what/how these things are going on are 100% lies.

You really need to wake the fuck up.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #20 on: July 25, 2014, 09:05:30 AM »
Yes, but you completely miss my point... just like all the other MSM zombified sheeple.  

The reasons they are giving you why/what/how these things are going on are 100% lies.

You really need to wake the fuck up.


Tell us why and how Mr Shepard.

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #21 on: July 25, 2014, 09:05:36 AM »
The main stream media doesn't want to tell you how bad this situation really is because doing so would be damaging to President Obunghole and his foreign policy.  Anything that makes him look bad or incompetent the media either mocks, downplays or simple refuses to report.  They share the same world view as The Pres and if he is wrong about something then that must mean they are also wrong and they aren't going to let that happen.  

Once the situation inevitably come to a head and can no longer be ignored, they will find a way to blame it on President Bush.  Obama is just doing his best, after all, to fix the mess that Bush created so many years ago.  He would have fixed it already but those nasty Republicans in the House of Representatives just won't let him do what he wants to do.  

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2014, 09:14:53 AM »
We destabilized the legitimate government of Ukraine and now Russia is the bad guy?

We would be doing the exact same thing X10 had Russia pulled this shit in Mexico. 

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #23 on: July 25, 2014, 09:17:51 AM »
We destabilized the legitimate government of Ukraine and now Russia is the bad guy?

We would be doing the exact same thing X10 had Russia pulled this shit in Mexico. 

We would be firing artillery into Mexico?

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Re: Russians are firing artillery into Ukraine
« Reply #24 on: July 25, 2014, 09:20:17 AM »
We would be firing artillery into Mexico?

If Russia helped overthrow the legitimate US friendly government of Mexico and a hostile Mexican government friendly to Russia, China, Iran etc... came to power?

Of course we would do everything to straiten out the mess ASAP.