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Serum test level on 250/week?
« on: July 24, 2014, 12:48:26 PM »
I just pulled some bloods to check hormone levels. I have been running 250/week for about 4 months. My numbers:

Test, total: >1500 (348-1197)
Test, free: >50 (6.8-21.5)
LH: 0.1 (1.7-8.6)
FSH: <0.2 (1.5-12.4)
E2: 41.5 (7.6-42.6)
SHBG 27.2 (16.5-55.9)

At least I know that the UGL gear isn't bunk. I need to up my AI a bit, I think.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2014, 01:30:34 PM »
I remember naps or someone saying geneza cyp is overdosed to like 300mg.
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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2014, 01:36:34 PM »
I remember naps or someone saying geneza cyp is overdosed to like 300mg.

I am using Geneza enan.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2014, 05:49:49 PM »
I am using Geneza enan.

its probably overdosed as well.
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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2014, 06:16:40 PM »
How much muscle have you put on since you started juicing?
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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2014, 06:25:21 PM »
How much muscle have you put on since you started juicing?

Not a ton, less than 10 of decent lean. Lost some fat weight too. My goal is 15-20 over a year. More and it gets harder to be a fake natty.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2014, 08:07:19 PM »
Not a ton, less than 10 of decent lean. Lost some fat weight too. My goal is 15-20 over a year. More and it gets harder to be a fake natty.
So, you've gained roughly 10lbs and lost some bodyfat in four months? Have you followed a strict diet?

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2014, 08:55:09 PM »
I just pulled some bloods to check hormone levels. I have been running 250/week for about 4 months. My numbers:

Test, total: >1500 (348-1197)
Test, free: >50 (6.8-21.5)
LH: 0.1 (1.7-8.6)
FSH: <0.2 (1.5-12.4)
E2: 41.5 (7.6-42.6)
SHBG 27.2 (16.5-55.9)

At least I know that the UGL gear isn't bunk. I need to up my AI a bit, I think.

just says it's greater than 1500.. even about 150mg/wk would put you in the 1400-1600 range, roughly.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2014, 09:21:48 PM »
just says it's greater than 1500.. even about 150mg/wk would put you in the 1400-1600 range, roughly.

even less would do that. dfor somebody your age that is a odd range I think it would be 220ng to 775ng.  348ng to1197ng I don"t find beliveable. 1197ng is very high for somebody natural unless your in your teens thats a strange Test level range.  I honestly thin you should be hitting a little higher then you are even if your only using 250mg a week if the range was 225-7875ng then I would say that is about right. How old are you I am just wobndering why the range is so crazy high! when I was 27 the average range was 225-778ng. You live in the uSA correct? I think you should up your dose at this point to 500mg a week and see what happens. I really wish you had done pre cycle bloodwork.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 09:40:55 PM »
even less would do that. dfor somebody your age that is a odd range I think it would be 220ng to 775ng.  348ng to1197ng I don"t find beliveable. 1197ng is very high for somebody natural unless your in your teens thats a strange Test level range.  I honestly thin you should be hitting a little higher then you are even if your only using 250mg a week if the range was 225-7875ng then I would say that is about right. How old are you I am just wobndering why the range is so crazy high! when I was 27 the average range was 225-778ng. You live in the uSA correct? I think you should up your dose at this point to 500mg a week and see what happens. I really wish you had done pre cycle bloodwork.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2014, 01:56:07 AM »
even less would do that. dfor somebody your age that is a odd range I think it would be 220ng to 775ng.  348ng to1197ng I don"t find beliveable. 1197ng is very high for somebody natural unless your in your teens thats a strange Test level range.  I honestly thin you should be hitting a little higher then you are even if your only using 250mg a week if the range was 225-7875ng then I would say that is about right. How old are you I am just wobndering why the range is so crazy high! when I was 27 the average range was 225-778ng. You live in the uSA correct? I think you should up your dose at this point to 500mg a week and see what happens. I really wish you had done pre cycle bloodwork.

the range on the bloodwork is just the 'general' ranges.

I've had clients.. old men in their early 50's, with test readings just shy of 900. natural, test-using guys who were expecting to get a script for trt. lol..

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2014, 02:42:28 AM »
My total T before starting was low 400's.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2014, 03:18:24 AM »
I just pulled some bloods to check hormone levels. I have been running 250/week for about 4 months. My numbers:

Test, total: >1500 (348-1197)
Test, free: >50 (6.8-21.5)
LH: 0.1 (1.7-8.6)
FSH: <0.2 (1.5-12.4)
E2: 41.5 (7.6-42.6)
SHBG 27.2 (16.5-55.9)

At least I know that the UGL gear isn't bunk. I need to up my AI a bit, I think.


You guys use a different reference range and measurements that we Brits do so I can't understand the figuires but my test levels were higher than 52 nmol/l and the test doesn't measure higher than 52 nmol/l so doc said it could be like 53 or it could be like 93 and he wouldn't know. ???

The top of the normal reference range was 32 nmol/l.

I would be curious to know how to convert 52 nmol/l to the reference range Americans use and how high you guys think that is for a steroid user comparatively speaking??

Regards

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2014, 03:31:46 AM »
I just pulled some bloods to check hormone levels. I have been running 250/week for about 4 months. My numbers:

Test, total: >1500 (348-1197)
Test, free: >50 (6.8-21.5)
LH: 0.1 (1.7-8.6)
FSH: <0.2 (1.5-12.4)
E2: 41.5 (7.6-42.6)
SHBG 27.2 (16.5-55.9)

At least I know that the UGL gear isn't bunk. I need to up my AI a bit, I think.

good to see that as little as 250mg/wk is enough for 'male birth control'... even better news if the ugl stuff is a bit less than 250mg. lol (not saying it is, however).

seeing your free test is greater than 50 and your shbg is in the middle (sorta), I think it's a safe bet the test is dosed correctly and your test is much greater than 1500.

I'd add 25mg/day proviron (or 25mg/day winstrol, it'd be about 1/3 the cost) along with 10mg/day aromasin to kill that SHBG even more and bump the free/unbound test and get the most bang for my buck.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2014, 04:06:06 AM »
good to see that as little as 250mg/wk is enough for 'male birth control'... even better news if the ugl stuff is a bit less than 250mg. lol (not saying it is, however).

seeing your free test is greater than 50 and your shbg is in the middle (sorta), I think it's a safe bet the test is dosed correctly and your test is much greater than 1500.

I'd add 25mg/day proviron (or 25mg/day winstrol, it'd be about 1/3 the cost) along with 10mg/day aromasin to kill that SHBG even more and bump the free/unbound test and get the most bang for my buck.

Thanks. I don't have any proviron at the moment, but I did up my aromasin to 10mg/day just this morning.

And yes, I am all done with kids, so that's not an issue.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2014, 04:08:37 AM »

You guys use a different reference range and measurements that we Brits do so I can't understand the figuires but my test levels were higher than 52 nmol/l and the test doesn't measure higher than 52 nmol/l so doc said it could be like 53 or it could be like 93 and he wouldn't know. ???

The top of the normal reference range was 32 nmol/l.

I would be curious to know how to convert 52 nmol/l to the reference range Americans use and how high you guys think that is for a steroid user comparatively speaking??

Regards


http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

52 == 1500, so it's basically the same thing here with different units.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2014, 06:17:23 AM »
http://www.endmemo.com/medical/unitconvert/Testosterone.php

52 == 1500, so it's basically the same thing here with different units.

Thanks for this bro very useful.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2014, 04:30:23 PM »
would you mind posting a photo or two of your current physique?

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2014, 07:05:38 AM »
You don't want to grind that E2 too low.  17-22 a good number. 

Whenever either test or E2 gets too low, it will cause problems for you.  (Different problems, but still you don't want to get it too low)

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2014, 07:54:48 AM »
You don't want to grind that E2 too low.  17-22 a good number. 

Whenever either test or E2 gets too low, it will cause problems for you.  (Different problems, but still you don't want to get it too low)
yep. Too little E2 killed my sex drive and generally made me feel like shit.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2014, 12:29:11 PM »
would you mind posting a photo or two of your current physique?

I am not ready for that yet. I still LLS.

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Re: Serum test level on 250/week?
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2014, 12:30:08 PM »
yep. Too little E2 killed my sex drive and generally made me feel like shit.

Yes, I am trying to drive it down, but not into the ground. At my advanced decrepitude, I have long had a problem with too much E2 in my system, so I am trying to push it down.