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Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« on: July 28, 2014, 09:29:33 PM »
Conservatives Republicans and liberal Democrats have dug in their heels on immigration and Glenn Beck has picked his side. But he doesn’t think it’s the winning one.

“I have to tell you, I’m gravely concerned because I don’t think we’re going to win this immigration battle,” Beck said on his radio show Monday. “I really don’t. I think it’s going to go the way it always does. Because they’re (liberals) going to win the PR battle. And the president is going to change the subject and he’s going to make it about impeachment.”

Some high-profile Republicans, like former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, have called for the impeachment of President Barack Obama. On Fox News Sunday, House Majority Whip Steve Scalise would not deny that it is an option.

Beck said no “serious” Republicans have called for impeachment.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #1 on: July 29, 2014, 12:46:39 AM »
Beck is a complete jerk off.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #2 on: July 29, 2014, 05:50:09 AM »
Beck is a complete jerk off.

Was a complete jerk-off. Now that he's away from Fox News, he's actually thinking for himself.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #3 on: July 29, 2014, 11:00:57 AM »
Was a complete jerk-off. Now that he's away from Fox News, he's actually thinking for himself.

One needs at least a partially functioning brain in order to think...

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #4 on: July 29, 2014, 11:04:23 AM »
Of course conservatives won't win. The republic has been eaten away slowly by termites for the past 150 years, don't see that changing anytime soon.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2014, 11:40:50 AM »
Of course conservatives won't win. The republic has been eaten away slowly by termites for the past 150 years, don't see that changing anytime soon.

some people still cling to the belief that our nation is 65% non-liberals.  Just because that's how they self-identify in polls.

They ignore the majority of nation admitting liberal positions on just about everything.

I think this kind of delusion is why Dems won 4/6 of the last prez elections, with the other 2 coming down to a single state.   The Repubs just cannot admit they need to EDUCATE people on why conservatism works, and why libs should convert to it.  Their standard line of "Libs only have 35% of the population, we got this" doesn't show in real life.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2014, 12:19:51 PM »
240......um we know we need to educate people but the Left controls academia. They use straw man arguments every time race is involved. The party of supposed facts generally resorts to shouting when their facts don't work. What the party needs is to figure out a compromise on social issues. Then they can produce a candidate that isn't a cornball. A guy like Christie would be great if he was a real conservative. We won't win until kids in schools aren't being taught by leftist nuts.
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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2014, 12:40:14 PM »
240......um we know we need to educate people but the Left controls academia. They use straw man arguments every time race is involved. The party of supposed facts generally resorts to shouting when their facts don't work. What the party needs is to figure out a compromise on social issues. Then they can produce a candidate that isn't a cornball. A guy like Christie would be great if he was a real conservative. We won't win until kids in schools aren't being taught by leftist nuts.

AGREED!!   But screaming "libs suck" for a decade hasn't worked.  In fact, a denial of the facts - the whole new generation, most of them are liberals - means no strategy that will work can even be created.  REPUBS STILL THINK THEY ARE IN THE LEAD!   Beach bum still thinks only 35% of the people in america are liberals.  Imagine  that. 

Repubs need a true conserative to run.  The base won't move otherwise.  And the impeachment thing is WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.  Repubs are trying to ell them other otherwise - and suddenly, getbiggers like coach and 333386 are actuall reversing position!  They's screamed for impeachement for 5 years... now, five minutes with rush, and they're on getbig trying to sell it as a bad idea.   Come on, fellas lol.   stop swaying with the wind already lol.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2014, 12:41:27 PM »
AGREED!!   But screaming "libs suck" for a decade hasn't worked.  In fact, a denial of the facts - the whole new generation, most of them are liberals - means no strategy that will work can even be created.  REPUBS STILL THINK THEY ARE IN THE LEAD!   Beach bum still thinks only 35% of the people in america are liberals.  Imagine  that. 

Repubs need a true conserative to run.  The base won't move otherwise.  And the impeachment thing is WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.  Repubs are trying to ell them other otherwise - and suddenly, getbiggers like coach and 333386 are actuall reversing position!  They's screamed for impeachement for 5 years... now, five minutes with rush, and they're on getbig trying to sell it as a bad idea.   Come on, fellas lol.   stop swaying with the wind already lol.

I wamt to see impeachment, jail, deportation, recoupment of all ill gotten gains, ban from ever entering the USa again, etc.  What else? 

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 12:41:51 PM »
AGREED!!   But screaming "libs suck" for a decade hasn't worked.  In fact, a denial of the facts - the whole new generation, most of them are liberals - means no strategy that will work can even be created.  REPUBS STILL THINK THEY ARE IN THE LEAD!   Beach bum still thinks only 35% of the people in america are liberals.  Imagine  that. 

Repubs need a true conserative to run.  The base won't move otherwise.  And the impeachment thing is WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT.  Repubs are trying to ell them other otherwise - and suddenly, getbiggers like coach and 333386 are actuall reversing position!  They's screamed for impeachement for 5 years... now, five minutes with rush, and they're on getbig trying to sell it as a bad idea.   Come on, fellas lol.   stop swaying with the wind already lol.

O Rly?  Where did I say this? 

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 12:45:01 PM »
O Rly?  Where did I say this? 

you posted this garbage "self-identified" poll where less than 40% of people actually called themselves liberals.

You used it to counter my stats showing majority of ppl having lib majority positions.

You live in the 1950s, with ward cleaver and andy griffith.   You don't realize this whole generation of youngin's are liberal, lazy, entitled, and no longer in line with conservative values.  You live on an island lol, figuratively speaking.  Eat lunch with 33 in NYC and tell us that the majority of the country isn't liberal lol.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 12:54:36 PM »
you posted this garbage "self-identified" poll where less than 40% of people actually called themselves liberals.

You used it to counter my stats showing majority of ppl having lib majority positions.

You live in the 1950s, with ward cleaver and andy griffith.   You don't realize this whole generation of youngin's are liberal, lazy, entitled, and no longer in line with conservative values.  You live on an island lol, figuratively speaking.  Eat lunch with 33 in NYC and tell us that the majority of the country isn't liberal lol.

I see.  So you lied again.  Shocking. 

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 12:59:12 PM »
I think he's making all this shit up so somebody will agree that the country is more liberal....they're not, they just way more stupid.
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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 01:14:58 PM »
I think he's making all this shit up so somebody will agree that the country is more liberal....they're not, they just way more stupid.

No argument from me, although I wouldn't really say people are more stupid.  More like uninformed.  I don't think the average American follows politics very closely.   

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2014, 01:17:49 PM »
I think he's making all this shit up so somebody will agree that the country is more liberal....they're not, they just way more stupid.

????  What did I make up?   The country IS more liberal and THAT is the problem!     And if you want to say they're more stupid, I'd argue that's the liberal work ethic applied in school :)  

You guys are older and set in your ways.  Spend time with young people - faces buried in social media, morally corrupt for the most part.  It's a sad generation ahead.  I know it feels happier to say "nah, all the folks I know are conservative, that's just a small pocket of america".  But they chose the most liberal senator to be president - twice.  And he'd probably win in 2016 if he could run again.

At some point, yall have to admit the problem isn't election tactics or not eonugh hispandering - the problem is that the majority of the nation is soft, liberal, shady, lazy, weak, and just prefers a govt teet to a hard days work.  And until repubs stop whining about "oh, obama just trying to mess with us" and start saying "look, america, here are ten reasons why we NEED to adhere to conservative principles", well, nothing will change.

Keep spending your valuable airtime bitching about chik fila.  Don't worry about telling future leaders of america why trillions in debt, govt-run healthcare and world policing policy are shitty ideas.  You can bitch about fast food cafeteria choices now and maybe get to that later :(


I know it sucks, but someday you'll realize I was right here.   We need to teach conservative ideals to the youth, not spend the day crying because michelle wore a "china red" dress to some dinner.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2014, 01:18:45 PM »
the problem is that the majority of the nation is soft, liberal, shady, lazy, weak, and just prefers a govt teet to a hard days work.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2014, 01:19:22 PM »
It is undeniable that the Left's 'long march through the institutions' is paying dividends big time. When the vast majority of the media and academia (not just college but grade school level as well) is liberal and relentlessly pushes liberal ideals and agendas while completely slandering or ignoring traditional american ideology, of course the majority of america's younger generations automatically lean Left.

Only by winning back control of the media and academia can america ever reverse the inevitable roll towards socialism.
The Left is speeding up the process however, by simply importing millions of new (left leaning) voters into the country.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2014, 01:23:19 PM »
Only by winning back control of the media and academia can america every reverse the inevitable roll towards socialism.

CORRECT  They should use their TV time to talk about the future of America - morally, economically, etc.   Spending their #1 rated news show talking about "war on chik fila" and "are spring breakers having too much sex" is a major squandering of their platform!!!

The Left is speeding up the process however, by simply importing millions of new (left leaning) voters into the country.

YES!   And the repubs are making it worse by trying to spearhead the amnesty/Dream issue.  They want their name on it.  Perry chiding obama for not acting fast enough to get these illegals out of the desert and into the USA?  Jeb calling it an act of love?  Rubio pushing DREAM harder than Obama?  They're bringing in MORE DEM VOTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Hispanics went 44% to Bush, 33% to Mccain, and 27% to Romney. Do they REALLY think adding ten million hispanics to the voter rolls will somehow tip things to the repubs!?  LOL   They may never win again, with ten million more hispanic voters!

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #18 on: July 29, 2014, 01:27:30 PM »
That is why i cannot understand for the life of me, why these idiot republicans think that by somehow joining an Amnesty bill, hispanics will suddenly all vote for them.  ::)

Its the dumbest reasoning in the world

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #19 on: July 29, 2014, 01:32:50 PM »
That is why i cannot understand for the life of me, why these idiot republicans think that by somehow joining an Amnesty bill, hispanics will suddenly all vote for them.  ::)

Its the dumbest reasoning in the world

I'm irish.  And if a president said "Hey, Rob, I'm gonna let 15 million illegal irishmen into the USA to soak up resources and jobs".....

no, sorry, They're not gonna get my vote.  In fact, I'm gonna vote AGAINST IT.  Because they can take the legal route just like anyone else.

Jeb saying it's an act of love to break US law because things in your own country suck - that's insane.  It's madness.  And not only are repubs behind it, but they want to be LEADERS on it, like it's their idea. 

They're desperate - going from 44% hispanic with Bush, to 27% hispanic with Romney... let's admit it, that's an election right there.  THAT is the win/loss, certainly.  They WANT those votes because the trend ain't looking good.

The REASON?  Maybe it has something to do with economy!!!   Poor people vote dem.  Economy sucks, there are more poor people.  Hispanic households are MUCH poorer than white households, on average, accoridng to Pew:
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2011/07/26/wealth-gaps-rise-to-record-highs-between-whites-blacks-hispanics/

STOP MAKING POOR PEOPLE and you stop making dem voters.  It is that simple.  People got rich under clinton, their tax rate rose, they became repubs, and voted in bush.  Then, bush started 2 wars, the economy slipped, and these people got poor - and became obama voters.  He's keeping them poor now.

But hey, i'm just a lib, what do I know.  I'm sure talking about obama perving on some chick or fast-food lunch choices will win the white house.  Who cares about changing core voter ideologies or altering economic condiitons to move people away from dem economic voting patterns - let's just shit on obama's wife's weight and have a laugh.  yee haw.   

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #20 on: July 29, 2014, 01:36:55 PM »

But hey, i'm just a lib, what do I know.  I'm sure talking about obama perving on some chick or fast-food lunch choices will win the white house.  Who cares about changing core voter ideologies or altering economic condiitons to move people away from dem economic voting patterns - let's just shit on obama's wife's weight and have a laugh.  yee haw.   

Every once in a while, you post something I agree with.

Are you having remorse after voting for Obama?

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I live in Florida.  My vote didn't matter in the dem primary (I'm a registered independent).

I am so sick of the democratic process.  I've voted repub my whole life, and my whole family has too.

but it looks like we may vote dem next time.  Just for the economy.  For health insurance for my little neice that isn't covered.  My family has it, but relatives don't have any health insurance.  I know, rich people hate the idea (label is socialism).  But when my neice gets sick, you can call it a shit sandwich, I'll be glad its in place for her.

So I probably will vote dem.  i'd love to see Obama choose a Wes Clark for a running mate, or a Jim Webb, possibly more likely, for strong military and defense credibility.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #21 on: July 29, 2014, 01:42:13 PM »
Beach bum,
Keep doing what you're doing.  Your stellar vision and realistic views of America are sure to give repubs the continued success they have been enjoying.

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #22 on: July 29, 2014, 01:43:38 PM »
Keep voting for Democrats while calling yourself a Republican or Independent (depending on the day).  You are part of the reason Obama is president.  Congratulations.  You should be proud. 

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2014, 01:45:17 PM »
If you're going back 7 years for posts, dude lol.  

You're attacking the messenger and not the message that quite a few right leaning people on get big are agreeing with.  

You're a dinosaur now lol.  Out of touch.  My immature ass is finally speaking wisdom and accuracy and you are clearly going the other way.  

I give a shit about this country.  I care. 

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Re: Glenn Beck: Conservatives Won’t Win on Immigration
« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2014, 01:49:01 PM »

My immature ass


Uh oh.  I have agreed with two things you said in one day.  This might be a record. 

Do you regret voting for Obama?