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« Reply #325 on: August 03, 2014, 07:45:28 AM »
Amazing to see the total disconnect in pro Israeli mindsets on this. Yes they have a right to defend themselves. No, they do not have a right to indiscriminately MURDER thousands of civilians and children.

There is no justification for this....absolutely none whatsoever.

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« Reply #326 on: August 03, 2014, 07:46:31 AM »
Dude! That's like saying if bank robbers take a bunch of hostages it's okay for the cops to throw a grenade into the place.  Well that is exactly what the jews  are doing.  They are leveling everything, they even hit a poor guys chicken farm for fucks sake.  Yeah the Israelis say they are hiding in schools and such but that is what they are always saying and we have no proof otherwise.  were are the bodies of hamas?  All you can see are the bodies of little children.  the self defense argument goes out the window when you start slaughtering kids. Let the Israeli army go into the streets and take it block by block,  no indiscriminate bombings for fucks sake!
You are so naive.  Do you have any concept of war?  Do you know how many Japanese children America killed during WW2?  The Americans even locked up American japanese citizens, stole their possessions and put them in concentration camps.  None of that is happening in Israel, Palestinian Israeli citizens aren't being rounded up, their possessions taken and placed in concentration camps.  And HAMAS's tactics of jeopardising civilians and storing munitions in civilian areas such as hospitals and the like is well documented and accepted by the world community, there is tons of proof of this.  This is old news, and only the most naive of observers doubts this.  It isn't uncommon for Palestinians to voluntarily use themselves as shields.  Tose that refuse risk punishment from HAMAS.

And this absurd comparison to a bank robbery but I'll play along, under certain circumstances it would be OK to throw a grenade in the place if you thought it was the lesser of two evils.  If you believe the bank robbers intended to kill every last one of the hostages and by doing nothing they will all die but you can spare some civilian lives by sacrificing some civilians as collateral damage, then what would you prefer, all the civilians die or only some of them.

This is war, and civilians die, in historical terms, Israel has been far more prudent and succeeded in minimizing civilian casualties compared to other conflicts.  In terms of children being killed, hard questions need to be answered,like do you risk your own children's lives and see them killed or do you take out the enemy even though they use children as shields.  The difference in this conflict is one side (Israel) is trying to protect it's children and the others side (HAMAS) is sacrificing it's children.  It's all well and good to be upset over children being killed,but point the finger at those responsible (HAMAS), to do otherwise is to simply have blood on your hands, as your support encourages those who commit evil acts like the use of children as human shields.

And your naive assessment suggesting Israel go in their block by block is ridiculous, you do realise they aren't fighting a defenceless people and such an act will result in far greater Israeli casualties (something that libtards lust after).  Unlike HAMAS, Israel is trying to minimise Israeli casualties, something that doesn't occur to libtards when considering the disproportionate death rate.   This makes sense, as HAMAS doesn't value life, they are quoted as saying 'They love death more than the JEWS love life".  How any decent person can support such an obviously EVIL regime is beyond me.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #329 on: August 03, 2014, 08:05:10 AM »
Why? What reason is there to put Israeli soldiers in a house to house clearing operation, other than more IDF casualties?
Would that make you guys feel better?
And how exactly to do you identify a member of Hamas? They don't wear uniforms.


If you want to destroy hamas, this is the only way to doit, take the city block by block until they have their backs to the sea. Israelis have the manpower . Only way to get them all. Or you could level every block from the air and kill everyone.  Easy to identify hamas, they'd be the ones shooting back

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #330 on: August 03, 2014, 08:06:42 AM »
If you want to destroy hamas, this is the only way to doit, take the city block by block until they have their backs to the sea. Israelis have the manpower . Only way to get them all. Or you could level every block from the air and kill everyone.  Easy to identify hamas, they'd be the ones shooting back

Holy shit who would have thought it was so easy  ::)
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« Reply #331 on: August 03, 2014, 08:09:49 AM »
Amazing to see the total disconnect in pro Israeli mindsets on this. Yes they have a right to defend themselves. No, they do not have a right to indiscriminately MURDER thousands of civilians and children.

There is no justification for this....absolutely none whatsoever.

So let get this right, Israel needs to wait until they are attacked to take any action?

And how exactly can you tell the difference between a civilian and a Hamas member?

The "Pals" elected and allow Hamas to operate in their territory, they are not innocent, they are only to fucking stupid to realize they are pawns, propaganda tools.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #332 on: August 03, 2014, 08:18:53 AM »
If you want to destroy hamas, this is the only way to doit, take the city block by block until they have their backs to the sea. Israelis have the manpower . Only way to get them all. Or you could level every block from the air and kill everyone.  Easy to identify hamas, they'd be the ones shooting back
Palestinians aren't innocent, they voluntarily voted in a terrorist group and openly support them, even volunteering to act as human shields under certain circumstances.  You have no idea the scope of the situation and what Israel is dealing with.

The naivety people show around this issue is astounding.  Libtards must be the must dangerous threat to humanity that ever existed.  Their inability to understand the enemy, to even recognise the enemy is truly amazing.  They are like some poor insect casually walking across a spiders web oblivious to the impending danger and waving at the spider saying "Howdy Friend"

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« Reply #333 on: August 03, 2014, 08:24:20 AM »
Holy shit who would have thought it was so easy  ::)

No, it's easier from the air.  Why get your hands dirty.

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« Reply #334 on: August 03, 2014, 08:28:19 AM »
Mosab Hassan Yousef (Son of Hamas Founder) reveals the truth about how Hamas Terror group aims to kill civilians and uses Palestinian Children as human shields.

Even when the son of a HAMAS founder tells you that HAMAS wants maximum civilian casualties the LIBTARDS still refuse to believe it.





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« Reply #335 on: August 03, 2014, 08:29:56 AM »
No, it's easier from the air.  Why get your hands dirty.

So your real issue is that it's not "fair" because Hamas doesn't have jets to bomb Israel?

If people like you were running things during WWII, the US would either be speaking German or Japanese
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« Reply #336 on: August 03, 2014, 12:41:00 PM »
So your real issue is that it's not "fair" because Hamas doesn't have jets to bomb Israel?

If people like you were running things during WWII, the US would either be speaking German or Japanese

How the fuck did you connect those dots??  Never mind, carry on.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #337 on: August 03, 2014, 12:59:50 PM »
Amazing to see the total disconnect in pro Israeli HAMAS mindsets on this. Yes they have a right to defend themselves. No, they do not have a right to indiscriminately MURDER thousands of their own civilians and children.

There is no justification for this....absolutely none whatsoever.
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Amazing how libtards fail to see that HAMAS is responsible for the disproportionate deaths caused to civilians.  There support of a group that willingly sacrifices it's own people and deliberately fails to protect them is nothing short of disgusting.

I think the biggest reason libtards behave in this reprehensible manner is they are so self absorbed and insular and unable to see beyond themselves they assume everyone thinks the way they do.  They falsely believe that human nature is good and that everyone has the same values they do.  So they project this onto even terrorists, people who hate their values and definitely don't share them.  People who don't value life, don't value honesty and don't value morality, people who have no hesitation to sacrifice even there own child for religious and ideological fanaticism.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #338 on: August 03, 2014, 02:50:00 PM »
So let get this right, Israel needs to wait until they are attacked to take any action?

And how exactly can you tell the difference between a civilian and a Hamas member?

The "Pals" elected and allow Hamas to operate in their territory, they are not innocent, they are only to fucking stupid to realize they are pawns, propaganda tools.



I can't tell whether you are even being serious writing this.

Israel hasn't waited to even commit the most heinous atrocities in Gaza. It is 30% kids that have been murdered in all this....children that are innocent. That is the bottom line here. You can't justify that with this argument.....'we need to attack and completely destroy everyone in Palestine because that's what they would do to us if they could'.....

Don't you see that continually bombing these people is going to make them want to fight back and take revenge? Where is the line going to be drawn? Which side will be strong enough to stop killing the other?

History is being written and Israel is making a bad name for itself.

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« Reply #339 on: August 03, 2014, 03:09:13 PM »
In Syria over 170 000 deads, Muslims kill Muslims & nobody give a fuck  :P
Isis kills fuck knows how many other Arabs in Iraq ::)
Ancient city of Mosul is now totally empty of Christan Arabs, thanks to Isis  :P
Hamas should be building kindergartens or schools, not tunnels & rockets ..... :o
Why should Jews tolerate Hamas rockets  ::)
Now another Arabs shit in Libya .........


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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #340 on: August 03, 2014, 03:12:23 PM »
In Syria over 170 000 deads, Muslims kill Muslims & nobody give a fuck  :P
Isis kills fuck knows how many other Arabs in Iraq ::)
Ancient city of Mosul is now totally empty of Christan Arabs, thanks to Isis  :P
Hamas should be building kindergartens or schools, not tunnels & rockets ..... :o
Why should Jews tolerate Hamas rockets  ::)
Now another Arabs shit in Libya .........



People do give a fuck, it was on the news for over a year. Hope that helps.

People 'care' more about Gaza because Israel is supported by the West. Hope that helps.

Your English is awful and use of  :) ;) :D ;D >:( is not required. Doubt that will help.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #341 on: August 03, 2014, 03:12:56 PM »
E-Kul is a pedo.

His daughter starred in Dance Moms, this must be a spin off show.



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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #342 on: August 03, 2014, 03:15:50 PM »
I can't tell whether you are even being serious writing this.

Israel hasn't waited to even commit the most heinous atrocities in Gaza. It is 30% kids that have been murdered in all this....children that are innocent. That is the bottom line here. You can't justify that with this argument.....'we need to attack and completely destroy everyone in Palestine because that's what they would do to us if they could'.....

Don't you see that continually bombing these people is going to make them want to fight back and take revenge? Where is the line going to be drawn? Which side will be strong enough to stop killing the other?

History is being written and Israel is making a bad name for itself.


I can justify anything I want, I really don't give a shit about the pals or the jews, let them fucking get it over with, winner take all. This conflict has been going on for over 50 years, its big business for arms makers and foreign aid black hole for the UN.
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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #343 on: August 03, 2014, 03:17:07 PM »
People do give a fuck, it was on the news for over a year. Hope that helps.

People 'care' more about Gaza because Israel is supported by the West. Hope that helps.

Your English is awful and use of  :) ;) :D ;D >:( is not required. Doubt that will help.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #344 on: August 03, 2014, 05:31:11 PM »
I can't tell whether you are even being serious writing this.

Israel hasn't waited to even commit the most heinous atrocities in Gaza. It is 30% kids that have been murdered in all this....children that are innocent. That is the bottom line here. You can't justify that with this argument.....'we need to attack and completely destroy everyone in Palestine because that's what they would do to us if they could'.....

Don't you see that continually bombing these people is going to make them want to fight back and take revenge? Where is the line going to be drawn? Which side will be strong enough to stop killing the other?

History is being written and Israel is making a bad name for itself.


Israel bombed another school today, accidentally of course.  Even the U.S. has condemned it today along with the UN.  But of course the getbigger contingent is much wiser and experienced in world affairs.

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Re: What's the difference between the US and Israel? There is none.
« Reply #345 on: August 03, 2014, 06:53:17 PM »
E-Kul is a pedo.

That's Shawn Rays Daughter, Asia.  You sick fuck.  That was posted in a thread about Shawn Ray and his family and their new TV reality show.  Asia is a TV personality and happens to be a great dancer.  Your post is very telling, I see a young girl living her passion, you see a sex object and a wife.  You should be ashamed, no wonder you have no issue supporting a pedophilic religion.
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« Reply #346 on: August 03, 2014, 06:55:59 PM »

Israel bombed another school HAMAS ROCKET LAUNCH SITE today, accidentally of course.  Even the U.S. has condemned it today along with the UN.  But of course the getbigger contingent is much wiser and experienced in world affairs.
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« Reply #347 on: August 03, 2014, 06:56:41 PM »
They are doing just that you bearded moron.

ROFL  ;D

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« Reply #348 on: August 03, 2014, 07:04:08 PM »
Good.


Fuck Hamas.

Fuck Muzzies.

Team Isreal no matter what.

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Hamas is bringing this on themselves and the people of Palestine.

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« Reply #349 on: August 03, 2014, 07:04:44 PM »
Thread degenerates into pointless turd slinging contest as tensions rise.  "Their retarted" proclaims participants.

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