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Ronald on Immigration
« on: July 30, 2014, 10:41:11 AM »

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 10:52:22 AM »
Bullshit!  No one is believing those lies you posted.  That right there is... is...  typical liberal edited video footage that has been redubbed with a Hawaiian Reagan voice over to make it appear that he really said those things that he really did say while he was not really saying them.  For real. 

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 11:16:34 AM »


Is there something controversial here?  He suggested giving work permits to foreigners.  He didn't say anything about amnesty in that clip.

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 11:46:43 AM »
Is there something controversial here?  He suggested giving work permits to foreigners.  He didn't say anything about amnesty in that clip.
Funny you should bring up the A word

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 11:48:05 AM »
Funny you should bring up the A word

Reagan said that simpson Mazzoli bill on immigration was one of his biggest mistakes in office since while the illegal invaders got amnesty - the promised enforcement never happened by Democrats. 

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2014, 11:49:30 AM »
Funny you should bring up the A word

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2014, 01:31:02 PM »
Number of illegal immigrants pouring into this country:

Under Reagan: 1,026,000/yr
Under Obama: 417,000/yr

[U.S. Customs & Border Patrol statistical reports]


But don't worry.  Despite illegal immigration being at a 40 year low, Rick Perry sends 1000 National Guard to border to see what can be done about it.  By visuals only.

Obama has vowed to counter Perry's actions (by executive order of course) and move the Statue of Liberty to south Texas.   /sarcasm.

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2014, 01:58:37 PM »
Number of illegal immigrants pouring into this country:

Under Reagan: 1,026,000/yr
Under Obama: 417,000/yr

[U.S. Customs & Border Patrol statistical reports]


But don't worry.  Despite illegal immigration being at a 40 year low, Rick Perry sends 1000 National Guard to border to see what can be done about it.  By visuals only.

Obama has vowed to counter Perry's actions (by executive order of course) and move the Statue of Liberty to south Texas.   /sarcasm.

Those numbers are complete bullshit.

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2014, 02:08:42 PM »
Those numbers are complete bullshit.

Supply your own numbers then.    ::)

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2014, 02:13:54 PM »
Number of illegal immigrants pouring into this country:

Under Reagan: 1,026,000/yr
Under Obama: 417,000/yr


[U.S. Customs & Border Patrol statistical reports]


But don't worry.  Despite illegal immigration being at a 40 year low, Rick Perry sends 1000 National Guard to border to see what can be done about it.  By visuals only.

Obama has vowed to counter Perry's actions (by executive order of course) and move the Statue of Liberty to south Texas.   /sarcasm.

Are you seriously claiming that the number of illegal immigrants has dropped by about 600,000 people a year? 

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2014, 02:17:44 PM »
I don't think the numbers are BS. Look at the 1980 census and compare it with the 2010 census. The ethnic makeup of the US has changed dramatically since Reagan.

The numbers are BS when you put them in context. 

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #11 on: July 30, 2014, 02:20:10 PM »
There is no possible way that there were 2.5 times the number of illegal immigrants pouring over the border in the 1980's than there is today. No fucking way

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #12 on: July 30, 2014, 02:31:42 PM »
repubs, your radio has spoken.

1) amnesty, don't try to stop it.
2) impeachment, don't use the word again.

After all, the leadership of rush, krauthammer and priebus has been stellar, looking back.   President Romney and the Repub senate are kicking ass all over the place.

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #13 on: July 30, 2014, 02:35:35 PM »
Are you seriously claiming that the number of illegal immigrants has dropped by about 600,000 people a year? 

I am not claiming anything.  The US Customs and Borders are.

Year
1988 942,861

1987 1,122,067

1986 1,615,844

1985 1,183,351

1984 1,058,276

1983 1,033,974

1982 745,820

1981 749,808

Average 1,056,500

  And this one covers the same border for the Obama years.

Year

2013 414,397

2012 356,873

2011 327,577

2010 447,731

2009 540,865

Average 417,489

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #14 on: July 30, 2014, 02:49:19 PM »
So because Reagan wasn't successful we should just say fuck it now...u libs are fucking retards. None of you have ever been to Guatemala....if u had u'd be joining the militia's keeping these animals out.
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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2014, 02:51:24 PM »
The Repubs and their GOP4Amnesty plan is all just an elaborate act.   They don't want you to know the real reason that they are all for illegals getting into our country.

They are planning to make them disappear and use their stem cells for research and their organs for the US patients on the waiting list.  This is their health care answer to Obamacare.  

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2014, 02:58:51 PM »
I am not claiming anything.  The US Customs and Borders are.

Year
1988 942,861

1987 1,122,067

1986 1,615,844

1985 1,183,351

1984 1,058,276

1983 1,033,974

1982 745,820

1981 749,808

Average 1,056,500

  And this one covers the same border for the Obama years.

Year

2013 414,397

2012 356,873

2011 327,577

2010 447,731

2009 540,865

Average 417,489

reality is a tough place for our right wing posters


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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2014, 03:00:26 PM »
reality is a tough place for our right wing posters



Like watching vampires in sunlight.

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 03:11:00 PM »
Nope not at all dude...first off the Dem congress fucked Reagan...second its 2014 and we are not talking about Reagan..we are talking about the vile piece of shit currently stealing my oxygen in the White House.  He isn't doing shit about anything. He gives them amnesty without going through Congress he should be impeached. Will they...who knows.....this is all about staying in power because it aint about taking care of the country. If it were we'd have Little Birds doing gun runs up and down the rio grand until the shitbags turned around.
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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 03:18:22 PM »
Dude....first off I am a lunatic but the point was if you spend any time in Latin America you'd be screaming your ass off to keep these people south of the border. As for the militia..they aren't doing shit but its the thought that counts.
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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2014, 04:00:43 PM »
I am not claiming anything.  The US Customs and Borders are.


Yes, you are claiming this:

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Number of illegal immigrants pouring into this country:

Under Reagan: 1,026,000/yr
Under Obama: 417,000/yr

[U.S. Customs & Border Patrol statistical reports]


But don't worry.  Despite illegal immigration being at a 40 year low

The numbers are based on apprehensions.  The fact fewer illegals are being apprehended under Obama doesn't mean fewer illegals are crossing the border.    This is about the most retarded thing I've read on the board this week.  But it's only Wednesday . . . .

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2014, 04:12:37 PM »
Bush was/is very passionate about his cheap labor......

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #22 on: July 30, 2014, 05:08:56 PM »
Yes, you are claiming this:


The numbers are based on apprehensions.  The fact fewer illegals are being apprehended under Obama doesn't mean fewer illegals are crossing the border.    This is about the most retarded thing I've read on the board this week.  But it's only Wednesday . . . .

I am reporting the stats that was reflected elsewhere.

Feel free to supply any other stats other than speculation about the subject if you want.  Surely our border security has only IMPROVED and INCREASED since Reagans era.    But don't let that stop you from finding a link to something that say otherwise.

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Re: Ronald on Immigration
« Reply #23 on: July 30, 2014, 05:27:33 PM »
I am reporting the stats that was reflected elsewhere.

Feel free to supply any other stats other than speculation about the subject if you want.  Surely our border security has only IMPROVED and INCREASED since Reagans era.    But don't let that stop you from finding a link to something that say otherwise.

You are reporting and spinning stats you likely got from some liberal rag, which is what I found when I plugged the information in Google.  Is that why you didn't post a link?   

If you believe we have 600,000 fewer illegals coming across the border than 40 years ago then you are incredibly uninformed.  Have you been around the country, particularly to border states?  I've seen the results in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas.  Nobody who is paying attention (and isn't spouting some agenda) believes that we have had this monumental decrease in illegal immigration.  Absurd. 

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A Brief History of Immigration in the U.S.
« Reply #24 on: July 30, 2014, 05:44:00 PM »
Prior to 1965, policies such as the national origins formula limited immigration and naturalization opportunities for people from areas outside Western Europe.

The civil rights movement of the 1960s led to the replacement of these ethnic quotas with per-country limits. Since then, the number of first-generation immigrants living in the United States has quadrupled, from 9.6 million in 1970 to about 38 million in 2007.

The peak year of European immigration was in 1907, when 1,285,349 persons entered the country. By 1910, 13.5 million immigrants were living in the United States.

Immigration patterns of the 1930s were dominated by the Great Depression, which hit the U.S. hard and lasted over ten years there. In the final prosperous year, 1929, there were 279,678 immigrants recorded, but in 1933, only 23,068 came to the U.S. In the early 1930s, more people emigrated from the United States than to it. It's all about economics it seems.

While European immigrants accounted for nearly 60% of the total foreign population in 1970, they accounted for only 15% in 2000.

In 1990, George H. W. Bush signed the Immigration Act of 1990, which increased legal immigration to the United States by 40%. Appointed by Bill Clinton, the U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform recommended reducing legal immigration from about 800,000 people per year to approximately 550,000. Bush increased the number of immigrants while Clinton reduced it. Obviously immigration laws are not divided along party lines.

Hispanic immigrants were among the first victims of the late-2000s recession, but since the recession's end in June 2009, immigrants posted a net gain of 656,000 jobs.