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How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« on: July 30, 2014, 02:23:32 PM »
Say you do everything right on cycle, and your PCT is water tight....realistically when should you start feeling your own test level coming back?

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 06:32:05 AM »
Say you do everything right on cycle, and your PCT is water tight....realistically when should you start feeling your own test level coming back?

It always took me about 2 to 3 months for it to start really kicking back in.. And up to 8 to 12 months to feel like I was before I took the cycle

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 06:47:20 AM »
It always took me about 2 to 3 months for it to start really kicking back in.. And up to 8 to 12 months to feel like I was before I took the cycle

How long where you on for before you stopped, what doses and what drugs?

I tried to quit after 10 days I felt like total shit so I pinned.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2014, 07:18:06 AM »
After ten days the hormones are still in your system, go troll the G&O.

When does libido come back is absolutely individual and unpredictable, too many factors counting in.

It will happen when it happens.

Downsides of steroids, there you have one.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #4 on: July 31, 2014, 07:20:03 AM »
When does libido come back is absolutely individual and unpredictable, too many factors counting in.

It will happen when it happens.



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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2014, 07:38:33 AM »
After ten days the hormones are still in your system, go troll the G&O.

When does libido come back is absolutely individual and unpredictable, too many factors counting in.

It will happen when it happens.

Downsides of steroids, there you have one.


Well I switched from Testosterone Enanthate to Test Prop about a month or so ago and I had to come down from 750mg Test E to 250mg Test P every 7-10 days due to bad blood works and had to up my AI to 1mg Arimidex EOD, I definitely felt my levels drop and lost 14lb without changing diet or doing any cardio.

I have been shooting 100mg prop Monday & Thursday and when I came off totally for 10 days I felt like shit, first just mellow and chill, then just totally tired and unmotivated hence why I was interested in OP's question.

I believe if you look at peak flow charts Test Prop peaks around 48-72hrs and then drops off so might have something to with it but clearly you are the expert and would know better.



 





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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #6 on: July 31, 2014, 09:34:41 AM »
I am 43, and went on a cutting cycle consisting off:

Prima 400mg p/week Weeks 1-10
Test Prop 300 mg p/week 1-10
Winny 50mg p/week weeks 5-10

I did not use an anti E as I dont suffer from gyno. My PCT was:

HCG 2500IU*2 for 2 weeks
DAA 4500mg p/day for 4 weeks
PCT Armitage for 4 weeks (JW product)
Clomid 50mg p/day for 3 weeks (took after the HCG)

After that lot my libido was very low, no real desire at all. Ball sack did not rise up on or off cycle though for some reason. So its now nearly 8 weeks post cycle and libido still low. I was told HCG can raise prolactin levels so 12 days ago I used L-Dopa by Now foods. No better. However....for the first 10 days I was taking it WITHOUT food - its supposed to be taken with food - could that be why it's not working? Any way, I thought back to when I took the HCG as I was just finishing the course - it was an OPENED amp that I half used months ago - it must of gone bad and I didn't realise at the time that HCG can only be kept in the fridge unopened for a short time. Anyway, I took another shot, then a few days later I snapped a vial by error so had to wait a few days to get some more - do you think this could be the reason I am struggling? I also think not using an anti-e was a massive mistake....

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2014, 12:18:10 PM »
Say you do everything right on cycle, and your PCT is water tight....realistically when should you start feeling your own test level coming back?

if it was water tight you wouldnt lose your libido. Ive been running upto a 2g total of chemical including progesterones and going as long as 3 - 4 months clean inbetween without even being able to tell that im off.

Hcg on cycle, stopping it and starting clomid at the appropriate time, dropping progesterones out and tapering down test to hrt levels before coming off make a huge difference.

Ive blasted hcg in the past on my first cycle coming off a third of the doses I run now and its the only time ive ever spent a depressing 3-4 month period being depressed and dickless, never again.

I went back on cycle for 3 months using hcg on cycle and come out the other side a new man, thank fuck.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2014, 01:37:04 PM »

Well I switched from Testosterone Enanthate to Test Prop about a month or so ago and I had to come down from 750mg Test E to 250mg Test P every 7-10 days due to bad blood works and had to up my AI to 1mg Arimidex EOD, I definitely felt my levels drop and lost 14lb without changing diet or doing any cardio.

I have been shooting 100mg prop Monday & Thursday and when I came off totally for 10 days I felt like shit, first just mellow and chill, then just totally tired and unmotivated hence why I was interested in OP's question.

I believe if you look at peak flow charts Test Prop peaks around 48-72hrs and then drops off so might have something to with it but clearly you are the expert and would know better.


Don't obsess over graphs and half lifes, 10 days after stopping injectables you're still jacked and should be ultra peeled once the water is off at this point.

Any time I go on vacation and stop pinning I look insane. You felt like shit for a million different reasons, but it wasn't because of hormones.

 






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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2014, 12:59:43 AM »
I've taken some hcg the past couple of weeks and feel much better, libido back up thank god! Now on 50mg Clomid for 3 weeks. Im def running an AI on all my future courses as well as HCG, Clomid and Aromasin for PCT.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2014, 11:59:30 AM »
clomid during the whole cycle and u never get this problema....big balls all through etc....

i stopped 4 years gear straight without PCT....sexdrive went from 2-3 times aday to 3 days a month. But never down to zero. Unfortunalty it stayed there for way to long. 3 times a week low for 2 years. The i met this superhot girl that i kept for 7 years and sexdrive was insane with here all the time! She was a nympho though and wanted it so much only steroids was the answer (with some viagra here and there for the sake of it) Went back on 250mg test ew and things went back to anytime-everyday again.

Next time i go on a real cycle i'll run lots of hcg afterwards and clomid all through. Planning to stay on TRT for a long time though, only when children becomes a priority i will stop and hcg and clomid up like mad.
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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2014, 03:55:36 PM »
you could still have children on HRT?

does the clomid not give you annoying girly sides?

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2014, 02:36:06 PM »
clomid during the whole cycle and u never get this problema....big balls all through etc....

i stopped 4 years gear straight without PCT....sexdrive went from 2-3 times aday to 3 days a month. But never down to zero. Unfortunalty it stayed there for way to long. 3 times a week low for 2 years. The i met this superhot girl that i kept for 7 years and sexdrive was insane with here all the time! She was a nympho though and wanted it so much only steroids was the answer (with some viagra here and there for the sake of it) Went back on 250mg test ew and things went back to anytime-everyday again.

Next time i go on a real cycle i'll run lots of hcg afterwards and clomid all through. Planning to stay on TRT for a long time though, only when children becomes a priority i will stop and hcg and clomid up like mad.

I've never heard of using clomid all the way through a course??

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2014, 02:46:47 PM »
you could still have children on HRT?

does the clomid not give you annoying girly sides?
made me sick as a fucking dog.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2014, 03:00:35 PM »
made me sick as a fucking dog.

Fuck does clomid do anyway?

Never tried it, I am on Nolva right now and that's it.

Do I have to do HCG?

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2014, 03:15:36 PM »
no you dont have to do hcg. The time to take it is usually on cycle or in the 2-3 weeks post cycle before beginning nolva or clomid. It does not work well when combined with nolva/clomid.


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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2014, 03:27:59 PM »
no you dont have to do hcg. The time to take it is usually on cycle or in the 2-3 weeks post cycle before beginning nolva or clomid. It does not work well when combined with nolva/clomid.



Thanks man.

I didn't take HCG on cycle and I didn't take it after, just started Nolva two days ago, last shot was 250mg Test E about 15 days ago, feel like shit.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2014, 05:11:39 PM »

How long where you on for before you stopped, what doses and what drugs?

I tried to quit after 10 days I felt like total shit so I pinned.


Shut the fuck up you have no idea about anything except how to suck cock lol. bro it takes about 2 months to feel completely normal again but you will feel semi normal in about 3-4 weeks or evens ooner its different for everyone.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 05:43:25 AM »
Fuck does clomid do anyway?

Never tried it, I am on Nolva right now and that's it.

Do I have to do HCG?


Clomid occupies the receptors in the hypothalmus blocking estrogen from entering and in turn raises levels of lh due to your brain thinking its low on test due to the lack of aromatisation into estrogen.

Hcg straight up copies LH and stimulates the testes to function which then gives your body no reason to produce its own LH meaning you're technically shut down.

hcg on cycle for maximum testicular function, clomid once your system is clear of all exogenous hormones to stimulate your own production of LH.

Imo nolvadex is only good for specifically targeting estrogen related breast tissue growth.

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Re: How long should it take to get libido back after a course?
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 06:21:23 AM »
Clomid occupies the receptors in the hypothalmus blocking estrogen from entering and in turn raises levels of lh due to your brain thinking its low on test due to the lack of aromatisation into estrogen.

Hcg straight up copies LH and stimulates the testes to function which then gives your body no reason to produce its own LH meaning you're technically shut down.

hcg on cycle for maximum testicular function, clomid once your system is clear of all exogenous hormones to stimulate your own production of LH.

Imo nolvadex is only good for specifically targeting estrogen related breast tissue growth.


Ok cool thanks, so you think I should add in clomid to the nolva as well now?

I've been off for about 16 days  and started talking 20mg Nolva ED 3 days ago.

How much clomid I should take?

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