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The author's hypothesis is certainly consistent with getbig Republicans' behavior/beliefs.

The (Real) Reason Why the House Won't Pass Comprehensive Immigration Reform
http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/fixgov/posts/2014/08/04-immigration-tea-party-constituencies-parker?rssid=immigration&utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=FeedBlitzRss&utm_content=The+%28Real%29+Reason+Why+the+House+Won%27t+Pass+Comprehensive+Immigration+Reform

"It’s been a year since the Senate passed a comprehensive immigration bill. George and Jeb Bush and Sens. John McCain and Lindsay Graham support it. Conservative public intellectuals such as David Brooks, Grover Norquist, and Karl Rove also support it, as well as more than 100 conservative economists, the Wall Street Journal and the CATO Institute. Comprehensive immigration reform enjoys a level of popularity that should make it a win-win for all involved. Still, House Republicans refuse to support it — even though the Senate recently passed a bipartisan bill with which many conservatives are satisfied.

With every reason to pass comprehensive immigration reform, why are House Republicans standing in its way? Many claim that the Senate bill amounts to amnesty, a measure they suggest leaves us no better off than we are now. They stress securing the border and expelling the 11 to12 million “illegal aliens” residing in the United States.

House Republicans argue that the Senate bill amounts to nothing more than a breach of the rule of law – a foundational conservative tenet.  But something beyond ideology drives House Republicans’ resistance to comprehensive immigration reform.

Let’s review the case against comprehensive immigration reform from the House GOP’s perspective.

They argue that the conservation of law and order requires the following. First, the 11 million “illegal aliens” must be expelled. To do what the Senate bill suggests, and legalize the undocumented six months later, amounts to amnesty rewarding criminal behavior. Second, legalization is accompanied by nominal preconditions. However, House Republicans complain that the fine imposed by the Senate bill, at $2K, isn’t enough. According to their calculations, it’ll only amount to $7 per month, and can be waived. Third, House Republicans also contend that the requirement to pay back taxes will be difficult to enforce. Fourth, the criterion for passing the criminal background check has a major loophole. It seems that some “illegal aliens” will be eligible for legal status even if they’ve been convicted of a felony—albeit one that was ultimately plead down. 

Here’s the rub, though: In addition to prioritizing law and order, conservative doctrine also requires a commitment to fiscal responsibility. The Senate bill goes a long way toward addressing this need.

For starters, the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office (CBO) estimates that the bill will save approximately $135 billion during the first decade of implementation, a figure that includes the cost of securing the border. The bill will also save taxpayers as much as an additional $685 billon in the ensuing ten years. That’s a savings of almost $1 trillion ($820 billion) over twenty years. Additionally, the CBO estimates that the Senate bill promises to reduce illegal immigration by at least one-third to one-half in the ten years following its enactment.

Conservatives not affiliated with the House embrace the legislation because it’s consistent with major tenets of conservatism.

Why, then, do many House Republicans oppose comprehensive immigration reform, as presented in the Senate bill?

It’s because House Republicans aren’t motivated by true conservatism. Rather, they represent constituencies haunted by anxiety associated with the perception that they’re "losing their country" to immigrants from south of the border.

The Republican Party is 89 percent white, and 97 percent of Republican House districts in the 113th Congress have white majorities. Moreover, 67 House Republicans won seats with the support of the Tea Party. And people who are highly identified with the Tea Party are anxious about Latino immigrants are taking over “their” country. In some instances, Tea Party groups are leading the charge against comprehensive reform.


Nativism enjoys a strong presence in the Tea Party Caucus among House Republicans. Indeed, according to the most recent data gathered by the Institute for Research & Education on Human Rights (IREHR), approximately 70 percent of the House Tea Party Caucus overlaps with the anti-immigrant House Immigration Reform Caucus.

If opposition to immigration reform is motivated by conservatives' concern with law and order, as House Republicans claim, we should observe no differences between Tea Party and non-Tea Party conservatives in the mass public on immigration policy, but that’s not what’s happening. 

A national survey I conducted revealed significant discrepancies between Tea Party conservatives and non-Tea Party conservatives, especially when it comes to “illegal” immigrants and immigration policy:

--When asked whether or not "restrictive immigration policies are based in part on racism," 40 percent of non-Tea Party conservatives say that racism has something to do with restrictive immigration policy versus 18 percent of Tea Party conservatives.
   
--Almost two-thirds (66 percent) of Tea Party conservatives want to eliminate birthright citizenship (part of the 14th Amendment) versus 46 percent of non-Tea Party conservatives — a 20-point difference.

--Only 30 percent of Tea Party conservatives support the DREAM Act versus 50 percent of non-Tea Party conservatives, another 20-point difference.

It’s clear that Republican constituents are fraught with anxiety induced by the perception of a cultural threat. To verify this point, I probed how Tea Party identifiers felt about “illegal” immigrants’ presence in America. When asked about how they feel about “illegal aliens,” it turns out that 82 percent of Tea Party identifiers are either anxious or fearful of them.

This is the real reason why the House GOP refuses to pass the Senate bill: their constituents are anxious, even fearful that immigrants will take over the country."

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Rich people want more immigrants, then they have more people to sell to.

Stupid middle class republican voter dont get that.

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no, they want cheap labor to produce the products they sell to people who actually have money to buy them

dems want votes

And since it requires an army of government workers to convert hundreds of billions of taxpayer money every year into EBT and other benefits, it all works out beautifully for both parties. Everyone likes a bigger more expensive government.


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So...'losing our country' to invaders shouldnt be resisted, it should be embraced??

Gotta love liberal ideology. Ideology of western suicide.

How about...maybe...because mass amnesty would not be good for the country or its citizens?

Fucking liberals...everything is racism ::)

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So...'losing our country' to invaders shouldnt be resisted, it should be embraced??

Gotta love liberal ideology. Ideology of western suicide.

How about...maybe...because mass amnesty would not be good for the country or its citizens?

Fucking liberals ::)

invaders? LOLZ they are people with basically similar culture, similar religion, similar life goals. Oh wait they are the mongol hordes!


This will be the final stake that destroys the republican party. They will be in hibernation for a decade out of executive office or they will concede allow for amnesty for illegals.

Isnt evolving or die the republican way?...except when it comes to politics right?

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invaders? LOLZ they are people with basically similar culture, similar religion, similar life goals. Oh wait they are the mongol hordes!


This will be the final stake that destroys the republican party. They will be in hibernation for a decade out of executive office or they will concede allow for amnesty for illegals.

Isnt evolving or die the republican way?...except when it comes to politics right?
You make way too many assumptions. This is about votes and money. With a little bit of "culture" thrown in, to egg the far right.

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so a growing population that is alienated by 1 party will vote for them ? right...

Republicans will be crying for decades cause this issue. Wrong side of history on this one.

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no, they want cheap labor to produce the products they sell to people who actually have money to buy them

dems want votes

And since it requires an army of government workers to convert hundreds of billions of taxpayer money every year into EBT and other benefits, it all works out beautifully for both parties. Everyone likes a bigger more expensive government.


you get a prize. Neither party gives a damn about Latinos or blacks, only the extreme right or left "cares"...but the Dems want the Latino vote so that they keep "winning".
Such a sham.

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you get a prize. Neither party gives a damn about Latinos or blacks, only the extreme right or left "cares"...but the Dems want the Latino vote so that they keep "winning".
Such a sham.
This.

This isn't about whats good for people or for the country, its about votes and money, plain and simple.

just opening our arms for countless more unskilled people when we already have employment issues will drive down labor prices and vastly increase competition for OUR unskilled labor force.

it's a bad idea. Fuck them anyway, why do they expect us to just "let them in", when so many others have waited and gone through the process? Fucking entitlement complex.

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invaders? LOLZ they are people with basically similar culture, similar religion, similar life goals. Oh wait they are the mongol hordes!


This will be the final stake that destroys the republican party. They will be in hibernation for a decade out of executive office or they will concede allow for amnesty for illegals.

Isnt evolving or die the republican way?...except when it comes to politics right?

Do you think suddenly adding millions of third world migrants will be good for the nation? How so? Seems like you are just a typical lib who cheers on anything that is bad for america.

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Do you think suddenly adding millions of third world migrants will be good for the nation? How so? Seems like you are just a typical lib who cheers on anything that is bad for america.

lol an an average redneck is skilled? Many of these people are just like any other american ,willing to work an pay taxes. You know why europe sucks? Negative birth rates. We need an influx of people here to pay for services and goods for old ass fucks.

I see nothing bad about immigration.  You seem to blinded by your hatred of other races and cultures.

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This.

This isn't about whats good for people or for the country, its about votes and money, plain and simple.

just opening our arms for countless more unskilled people when we already have employment issues will drive down labor prices and vastly increase competition for OUR unskilled labor force.

it's a bad idea. Fuck them anyway, why do they expect us to just "let them in", when so many others have waited and gone through the process? Fucking entitlement complex.
you are a moron. Jobs will go to the cheapest labor weither they are in our country or not...Businmess are not gonna sit around and be like OMGZ we only have white people around who demand high wages, guess we gotta pay them what they "demand". They will simply move their jobs off shore.

The world is flat buddy. People pay for talent not unskilled labor.

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Capitalism, Big Business , cheap labor/ thread
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you are a moron. Jobs will go to the cheapest labor weither they are in our country or not...Businmess are not gonna sit around and be like OMGZ we only have white people around who demand high wages, guess we gotta pay them what they "demand". They will simply move their jobs off shore.

The world is flat buddy. People pay for talent not unskilled labor.
This isnt about white,  or brown, or anything else.

It's about why the fuck would we let in hundreds of thousands of people when we cant employ or take care of our own? What possible reason can you give me that would justify simply opening the border and letting these people come here without going through the same process as everyone else? Why are they entitled to be citizens when there is a waiting list for people who actually have skills and could come in, find work and be productive members of society?

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Rich people want more immigrants, so they can lower salaries and they have more people to sell to.

Stupid middle class republican voter dont get that.

fixed.

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This isnt about white,  or brown, or anything else.

It's about why the fuck would we let in hundreds of thousands of people when we cant employ or take care of our own? What possible reason can you give me that would justify simply opening the border and letting these people come here without going through the same process as everyone else? Why are they entitled to be citizens when there is a waiting list for people who actually have skills and could come in, find work and be productive members of society?


Hes blinded by his utopian lib ideology and will automatically address any challenge to that as 'racism'. ::)

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This isnt about white,  or brown, or anything else.

It's about why the fuck would we let in hundreds of thousands of people when we cant employ or take care of our own? What possible reason can you give me that would justify simply opening the border and letting these people come here without going through the same process as everyone else? Why are they entitled to be citizens when there is a waiting list for people who actually have skills and could come in, find work and be productive members of society?


Did i ever say we should open borders?? I said we should grant amnesty to those already here. Im all for locking down borders and enforcing laws on the book. The mass deportation and imprisonment of millions is a joke though. Lets all keep in mine that this country was founded on illegal immigration.

Grant amnesty after they are forced to take classes in English , US history/civics and pledge an oath to our Constitution.

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Hes blinded by his utopian lib ideology and will automatically address any challenge to that as 'racism'. ::)

IM not even a liberal lol. Its idiots who make everything in to a conservative/liberal debate. You are caught in a ridiculous paradigm. People in power dont care about that shit. Squabbling over ideology is a plebs job.

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Did i ever say we should open borders?? I said we should grant amnesty to those already here. Im all for locking down borders and enforcing laws on the book. The mass deportation and imprisonment of millions is a joke though. Lets all keep in mine that this country was founded on illegal immigration.

Grant amnesty after they are forced to take classes in English , US history/civics and pledge an oath to our Constitution.
thats not amnesty if they have to go through a process. Thats called 'legal immigration'

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This.

This isn't about whats good for people or for the country, its about votes and money, plain and simple.

just opening our arms for countless more unskilled people when we already have employment issues will drive down labor prices and vastly increase competition for OUR unskilled labor force.

it's a bad idea. Fuck them anyway, why do they expect us to just "let them in", when so many others have waited and gone through the process? Fucking entitlement complex.

Exactly, there's absulutly zero benefit to lower and middle class Americans. I can see how this clearly benefits the upper class and globalist elite though.

George and Jeb Bush and Sens. John McCain and Lindsay Graham support it.

This says it all...

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Do you think suddenly adding millions of third world migrants will be good for the nation? How so?

I'd love to understand this as well.

Syntax, please break this down in a way that I can understand it.  :D

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lol an an average redneck is skilled?

We have enough trouble with the unskilled rednecks as it is, they have every right to be here. We don't need to add to the problem with unskilled immigrants from a different culture who don't even speak the language.

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you guys realize this is a made up issue right? How is your day to day life affected by some Mexican immigrant lol.

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I'd lose my mind if I was in southern states. Ireland, a country with 4 million people, had 400,000 immigrants in the space of a few years. They worked, didn't greatly increase crime rate and many left when economy was fucked. However, these were legal as we are an EU country and have strict visa controls (took me 7 months to convince immigration I was with my gf legitimately for more than 2 years).

You have a similar amount, 10% of your pop, coming in illegally, largely from Central and South America but also Irish etc overstaying visas. They broke the law to get there, distort wages, criminal activity is increased and you are supposed to bend over and take it? Fuck that. If you wanna talk about more people for the super rich to sell to, last time I checked super rich have MNCs and can sell abroad and use the internet.

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I'd love to understand this as well.

Syntax, please break this down in a way that I can understand it.  :D

Its the most basic of questions but it has never been answered by any of them.

It goes up there on the shelf alongside 'what are we doing in afghanistan'  ;D

Never an answer.