Author Topic: Female friend wants to compete - please help me with an appropriate cycle  (Read 4283 times)

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I'm seeing this girl who wants to compete in fitness figure. She have never done gear before but have already  descided to start. because she wants to compete.

Now some complete tool schmoe wants her to get on 1 g of test and 100mg winstrol ed!

I have no experience in coaching women with gear and wants to make her make the right descitions.

 She's got a good base and is very sexy, would hate it if some idiot fuckes here up!

Please list all gear women can do without became a man. This is what comes to mind for me:

Anavar (5-10mg aday?)
Primo (lower doses 50-100mg week)
Winstrol (to some degree, but i've seen some girl mess up on this one too...where to draw the line? 5-10mg ed?
Low doses of clenbuterol
Ephedrine
Some diuretic before show

Any other possibilities to choose from with no or minimum androgenic effetcs?

She already made her mind up and will go with the other idiot if i don't fix this. No gear experience before either. Good base as well..

Women, fellas, schmoes please chime in on this before it's to late

Thanks
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A beginner cycle from someone who knows what theyre talking about for bikini was 20-40mg var daily and worming up until side effects showed, and then scaling back a bit.

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A beginner cycle from someone who knows what theyre talking about for bikini was 20-40mg var daily and worming up until side effects showed, and then scaling back a bit.
Up to 40 mg? Isn't that very high for a first cycle?

Bertha has done 10 mg max daily and that worked well. And that already caused sides. Now she's trying test enanthate, 20 mg every two weeks. So far so good.

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Up to 40 mg? Isn't that very high for a first cycle?

Bertha has done 10 mg max daily and that worked well. And that already caused sides. Now she's trying test enanthate, 20 mg every two weeks. So far so good.
Odd you telling us that rather than her.

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so she wants to turn in to a man if you dont help lol

growth hormone is common with female figure and physique. You sound like you know what to do.

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Odd you telling us that rather than her.

Taking that bullshit here as well?  ::) Who do you think watches this subforum: me, or the wife who's done one cycle of var and has just started a cycle of test?

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Taking that bullshit here as well?  ::) Who do you think watches this subforum: me, or the wife who's done one cycle of var and has just started a cycle of test?
No bullshit at all, regardless of who watches this forum I wouldn't be posting my partners cycles on here if they were a poster here.

Its odd you posted it rather than her, thats all, and thats all I wrote.

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No bullshit at all, regardless of who watches this forum I wouldn't be posting my partners cycles on here if they were a poster here.

Its odd you posted it rather than her, thats all, and thats all I wrote.
Let's call it a misunderstanding. Perhaps recently upping the masteron isn't helping my emotional state. :P

She doesn't know shit about AAS and trusts me do choose what is best. She has given me a list of goals and unacceptable side effects, and the rest is up to me. I am always surfing PubMed c.s. anyway, so she knows I don't blindly inject her with insane dosages. Careful titration on her, that's the approach.

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Let's call it a misunderstanding. Perhaps recently upping the masteron isn't helping my emotional state. :P

She doesn't know shit about AAS and trusts me do choose what is best. She has given me a list of goals and unacceptable side effects, and the rest is up to me. I am always surfing PubMed c.s. anyway, so she knows I don't blindly inject her with insane dosages. Careful titration on her, that's the approach.
No worries mate.
I am using masteron myself at the moment, I mix a 1/4 ml with my 250mgs test to make it easier to inject.

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I'm seeing this girl who wants to compete in fitness figure. She have never done gear before but have already  descided to start. because she wants to compete.

Now some complete tool schmoe wants her to get on 1 g of test and 100mg winstrol ed!

I have no experience in coaching women with gear and wants to make her make the right descitions.

 She's got a good base and is very sexy, would hate it if some idiot fuckes here up!

Please list all gear women can do without became a man. This is what comes to mind for me:

Anavar (5-10mg aday?)
Primo (lower doses 50-100mg week)
Winstrol (to some degree, but i've seen some girl mess up on this one too...where to draw the line? 5-10mg ed?
Low doses of clenbuterol
Ephedrine
Some diuretic before show

Any other possibilities to choose from with no or minimum androgenic effetcs?

She already made her mind up and will go with the other idiot if i don't fix this. No gear experience before either. Good base as well..

Women, fellas, schmoes please chime in on this before it's to late

Thanks

One thing to keep in mind is the woman's hormonal starting point. If she's the tomboy type who is already stronger than most girls and has small tits, narrow hips, and has an easier time dieting down, then hormonally she is closer already to the masculine end of the spectrum. Then anything that is too androgenic could push her too far.

If she's a very feminine type physically, then adding a bit of androgens might not be a bad idea. Bertha is on the hyperfeminine part of the spectrum, so naturally weaker and fatter than other women. Which is why she is now taking test, as she can take a bit of androgens and not immediately overshoot into DLB territory. Seems to be working even at these low dosages. And FWIW 10 mg anavar was too much for her, within 5-6 days her clit blew up like a balloon.

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She doesn't know shit about AAS and trusts me do choose what is best. She has given me a list of goals and unacceptable side effects, and the rest is up to me. I am always surfing PubMed c.s. anyway, so she knows I don't blindly inject her with insane dosages. Careful titration on her, that's the approach.

You've proven to be more helpful and knowledgeable than my regular doctor/specialist. So yes, I trust you.

Bertha is on the hyperfeminine part of the spectrum

Nothing to do with 20 years of pumping extra estrogen in my body...  ::)

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And FWIW 10 mg anavar was too much for her, within 5-6 days her clit blew up like a balloon.

Yeah, that wasn't pleasant. Couldn't walk normally or wear tight pants, because any rubbing was painful. That, and the immense painful sores (acne) on my chest.

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I'm seeing this girl who wants to compete in fitness figure. She have never done gear before but have already  descided to start. because she wants to compete.

Now some complete tool schmoe wants her to get on 1 g of test and 100mg winstrol ed!

I have no experience in coaching women with gear and wants to make her make the right descitions.

 She's got a good base and is very sexy, would hate it if some idiot fuckes here up!

Please list all gear women can do without became a man. This is what comes to mind for me:

Anavar (5-10mg aday?)
Primo (lower doses 50-100mg week)
Winstrol (to some degree, but i've seen some girl mess up on this one too...where to draw the line? 5-10mg ed?
Low doses of clenbuterol
Ephedrine
Some diuretic before show

Any other possibilities to choose from with no or minimum androgenic effetcs?

She already made her mind up and will go with the other idiot if i don't fix this. No gear experience before either. Good base as well..

Women, fellas, schmoes please chime in on this before it's to late

Thanks

Shes gonna get sides no matter what over time, gear is more of a minefield for women than men due to gear being mislabelled etc.

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A beginner cycle from someone who knows what theyre talking about for bikini was 20-40mg var daily and worming up until side effects showed, and then scaling back a bit.

fuck no bro lol ive trained tons of women and my ex has done every cycle for a woman. for a beginner only anavar or real primo and since real primo is ahrd to get anavar. 10-20 mg NO MORE you will side effects and if you do lower the dose. 40 is way too much bro

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fuck no bro lol ive trained tons of women and my ex has done every cycle for a woman. for a beginner only anavar or real primo and since real primo is ahrd to get anavar. 10-20 mg NO MORE you will side effects and if you do lower the dose. 40 is way too much bro
Well, im telling you were working with a fairly high end coach responsible for a LOT of amateur and pro IFBB figure\Fitness/bikini chicks.... he wanted to start her at 40. She was scared so he told her to start at 20mg and go up every 2 weeks until sides started appearing.  She went up to 40 before she really noticed anything, and she was to scared to go higher. It makes sense, not everyone will get the same sides at the same doses, so he wants them to go as high as their genetics will tolerate.

Again, this dude knows his stuff, and his women (Pros include) always look killer, which is why we went with him.

Take it for what its worth

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Var, Primo and GH.

Like someone already mentioned, a lot of Var and Primo is actually another compound, so it's tricky to make sure you get the right thing.

A lady i trained with for a while said a good starting point for women is 100mg Primo (inject) EW and 10mg of Var ED.  Once comfortable you can double that amount.  Add in 3-4iu of GH and give it a few weeks; she will look completely different if she's already lean.

Stay away from androgens. A very small dose of Test in ok, but be very careful.


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