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Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« on: February 08, 2006, 01:59:25 PM »
For Immediate Release
February 8, 2006


PRO DIVISION INC ANNOUNCES NEW JUDGING CRITERIA FOR 2006 SCHEDULE


Pro Division Inc has announced today the judging criteria for their 2006 competition/event schedule which commences in September.

Wayne S. DeMilia, CEO of Pro Division Inc states, “The main points in the judging procedure are the easily defined rounds and the rewarding of the athletes for aesthetics, symmetry, and entertainment value as well as muscle size and definition.“

Executive Judging Director John Calascione, who will serve as Chief Judge at all events, has formulated the groundwork to underwrite fair judging on all levels.

“The judges will be constantly rotated, not only to prevent the same judges from judging the same event every year, but also to insure that every panel will be different. Judges will be assessed every six months and judges who cannot meet the standards that are required will first be asked to attend additional judging clinics. If the judge is still not up to standard, he/she will not be included on future panels,” said Calascione at a recent Pro Division Inc. summit.

Both DeMilia and Calascione guarantee that any improprieties, connections, associations or collusion between judges and/or judges and competitors can result in the judge not only being removed from a panel but also removed from consideration from all future judging panels.

Any questions, comments or interest in the judging procedures and rules for Pro Division Inc should direct them via email to prodivisioninc@yahoo.com.

Pro Division Inc judging rules for 2006 are as follows:


JUDGING RULES


All competitions in Pro Division, Inc will be judged using the placement system. When there are more than 20 athletes in a competition, judges will judge from 1 to 15 with all other athletes receiving a 16. When there are 20 or less competitors in a competition, the judges will place them from 1 to 20 in each appropriate round.

Each competition will have a minimum of seven judges and an alternate judge. The alternate score will only be used is one of the seven voting judges is unable to continue in the competition.

In major competitions there will be eleven judges and an alternate judge. In major competitions, computer scoring will be used with the alternate score being determined at random by the computer in each round.

Judges will have the opportunity to call their individual comparisons in rounds one and two.

Judges will be instructed to mark down any athlete with gynecomastia. Any type of artificial muscle augmentation, either by implants or any other type of foreign substance to enhance the muscle size or shape will also be cause for the judges to lower the athlete’s placing.

The contest will be judged based on five rounds, with each round being an equal 20% of the score. The athlete with the lowest score after five rounds is the winner.




SCORE #1--ROUND 1—Symmetry & Aesthetics—20%

WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR:
The judges are looking for overall symmetry, aesthetics, balance and proportion. There should be a “V” taper from the shoulders to the waist. The stomach region should be muscular yet small and tight from all angles. From the front, the thighs should have an outer sweep and the calves should show an inner muscle belly. There skin should show an overall tightness from all angles.

Muscularity and size should be taken into account in this round, but the overall aesthetic look of the body should take precedence.


PROCEDURE:
In this round the athlete is viewed and compared from four sides, (quarter poses front, right side, back, left side), in the semi relaxed position. In all four positions knees are to be locked, feet are to be no more than 2 inches apart, and there is to be no twisting of the upper torso.

The athletes will come out in groups of no more than ten at a time to do the quarter poses as a group, and then compared 2 or 3 at a time. When all the judges are satisfied, athletes are placed, score sheets marked and given to the head judge.


SCORE #2--ROUND 2—Muscularity in the Seven Compulsory Poses—20%


WHAT ARE THE JUDGES LOOKING FOR:
The judges are looking for size, muscularity, definition and separation based just upon the seven compulsory poses.

PROCEDURE:
The athletes will be judged in the seven compulsory poses:

A. Front Double Biceps
B. Front Lat Spread
C. Side Chest
D. Rear Double Bicep
E. Rear Lat Spread
F. Front Abdominal & Thighs
G. Front Most Muscular Crab


The athletes will come out and do the seven compulsory poses individually (when there are more than 20 athletes in a competition, the athletes will be brought out 2 at a time), then be brought out and compared in groups of 2, 3 or 4.



SCORE #3--ROUND 3A--FREE POSING—20%

WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR
The judges are judging the overall physique on all points (aesthetics, muscularity, size, balance, proportion, and symmetry) but only what the athlete shows them. If an athlete hides his weak points, it is to his advantage and the judge will base the score on what is presented. This score is based solely on the body, not presentation.


PROCEDURE
Each athlete presents his body as he wants it to be seen, choreographed to music for approximately three minutes. . If he has weak points on his physique or weak poses, he is not required to do them He is to present his body to his best advantage to the judges.


SCORE #4--ROUND 3B—ENTERTAINMENT QUALITY—20%

WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR:
The judges will be giving a second score solely on the entertainment value of the posing routine. Props and special effects can be used, but the athlete must remember that if the body is covered too much or for too long, or if the effects prevent the adequate presentation of the body in the judge’s mind, it could effect the score in round 3A.


SCORE #5—ROUND 4—FINAL POSEDOWN—20%

WHAT THE JUDGES ARE LOOKING FOR:
This is the judge’s final chance to assess the athlete’s physique. The judges are first looking at the physique as a whole, then breaking it down to symmetry, aesthetics, muscularity, size, balance and proportion.

PROCEDURE
The top six will come out as a group in numerical order. The judges can ask the head judge for repositioning of the athletes if necessary to aid in the judging. Athletes will first do quarter turns as a group, then the seven compulsory poses as a group. The head judge will then order the athletes to “posedown” and the athletes will break into free posing of their choice to out do the other athletes on stage.

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2006, 02:20:40 PM »
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2006, 02:22:50 PM »
sounds pretty good.

only thing i dont like is competitors losing marks for having gyno. it seems kind of unfair to punish the ones who have it when most pros have had theirs removed already .

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2006, 02:23:43 PM »
Thank God they got rid of the side tri.

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2006, 02:27:11 PM »
Hmmm.  Can't say this really effects my opinion one way or the other because nobody, least of all judges, ever pays enough attention to "judging guidelines."   ;)   It's interesting that they seem to have dropped the side tri.  I guess Fedorov, Cook, and anyone else who dominates in that pose is out of luck.  That is, if anything substantial and lasting every comes of this (which I doubt).

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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2006, 03:11:32 PM »

When and where is the first show?

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2006, 03:12:52 PM »
GREAT!
From what the rules state and if they are followed we will see the rise and return of the true bodybuilder form. V-tapers, small waists, NO GYNO or other crap. Hopefully this will take bodybuilding to the general public and put our sport in the limelight it deserves.

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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2006, 03:15:49 PM »
When and where is the first show?
Be patient grasshopper.  ;) Remember, there is no new pro org. Now, repeat that 10 times.  ;D

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2006, 03:39:08 PM »
no side tricep? whats up with that?

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2006, 03:42:13 PM »
Dear Disgusted ,
Please take a moment and take your head out of your ass immediately.
The date of the first show will be announced very soon, and it's
going to be a show you are very familiar with.

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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2006, 03:51:15 PM »
GREAT!
From what the rules state and if they are followed we will see the rise and return of the true bodybuilder form. V-tapers, small waists, NO GYNO or other crap. Hopefully this will take bodybuilding to the general public and put our sport in the limelight it deserves.
That's the exact same thing the IFBB said last year in its new guidelines, only it didn't kill the side tri.  (Ironically, the side tri is the most aesthetic of the compulsories; the most-muscular is the ugliest.)   And keep dreaming about bodybuilding going to the "general public" and getting the "limelight it deserves."  It'll get the limelight it deserves during the Titus trial.   joke   ;D

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2006, 05:24:28 PM »
Dear Disgusted ,
Please take a moment and take your head out of your ass immediately.
The date of the first show will be announced very soon, and it's
going to be a show you are very familiar with.

Dear dumbass, I was being sarcastic in case you didn't notice and you obviously didn't. I already know what the first show is going to be and the second, all of them for that matter. I've been posting for weeks about them. Soooooooooo, reach aroud with the hand of your choice and yank YOUR head out.  ::)

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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2006, 06:17:46 PM »
Dear disgusted,
You have my sincerest and most humble apology

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2006, 06:20:56 PM »
Be patient grasshopper.  ;) Remember, there is no new pro org. Now, repeat that 10 times.  ;D
You're right, I need to keep the first rule of Pro Division in mind - "Do not talk about Pro Division, Inc".

;)

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2006, 06:39:03 PM »
You're right, I need to keep the first rule of Pro Division in mind - "Do not talk about Pro Division, Inc".

what?  another PotF fan?

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« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2006, 12:01:30 AM »
Dear disgusted,
You have my sincerest and most humble apology

Ditto  ;D

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« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2006, 12:02:20 AM »
You're right, I need to keep the first rule of Pro Division in mind - "Do not talk about Pro Division, Inc".
;)

Very funny  >:(  ;D

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2006, 12:28:28 AM »
Some serious emptyness in these press releases.

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« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2006, 03:34:34 AM »
The whole thing seems pretty fly by night . . . a yahoo address. That's fucked.

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2006, 11:29:46 AM »
Aesthetics = 1%
Symmetry = 10%
Entertainment Value - 15%
Muscle Size - 70%
Definition 4%

Poof is in the pudding as to what is being judged....

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« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2006, 11:58:54 AM »
So they've taken out the side tricep and put in a clown round where most people will make a fool of themselves...

Contests today are boring people because they are too LONG!

The finals for a show should be over in 90 minutes. People would walk out of there totally pumped and excited about the sport not falling asleep. They'd also hang around and support the vendors more.

They need to badly restrict the free posing down to 2min or 2.5 minutes max.

Having guys go through the same routine twice to 2-3 music changes is what is boring. Having them wave at the crowd to encite applause (they'd be applauding if they liked you bozo) is boring. Having them walk up and down the stage for an extra minute is boring.

Some of the best posing routines of all time have been short. Leaving the crowd wanting more is what it is all about. Dorian had the shortest routine at the 96 mr O and got the biggest response. Shawn Ray did a fantastic 2 min routine at the 1990 mr O. Having several music changes is a mistake. Lee Preist always does a great shortish routine (maybe 2.30min but lee poses pretty slow so there aren't too many poses repeated which is what I'm really complaining about...)

Top 15 guys only allowed to pose at night. No more ken jones or that old canadian dude. If you aren't good enough to make the cut you don't get to pose at night simple as that. Some teams go to the soccer world cup and only play 3 games then go home but thats life if you aren't good enough.

Stage backgrounds... The guys need to be allowed to pose with LESS flashy backgrounds on the stage. Who else agrees that the IRONMAN is the best viewing show because the stage isn't full of extra props and signs etc. We all know the lighting is the best there bar none...

The more simple and streamlined you keep it the better. Remove the extra props and flashy shit and make it about the muscle... that what people are there for afterall...

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2006, 12:26:22 PM »
There skin should show an overall tightness from all angles.
THEIR not there, stupid.

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« Reply #22 on: February 09, 2006, 12:48:44 PM »
So they've taken out the side tricep and put in a clown round where most people will make a fool of themselves...
Contests today are boring people because they are too LONG!
The finals for a show should be over in 90 minutes. People would walk out of there totally pumped and excited about the sport not falling asleep. They'd also hang around and support the vendors more.
They need to badly restrict the free posing down to 2min or 2.5 minutes max.
Having guys go through the same routine twice to 2-3 music changes is what is boring. Having them wave at the crowd to encite applause (they'd be applauding if they liked you bozo) is boring. Having them walk up and down the stage for an extra minute is boring.
Some of the best posing routines of all time have been short. Leaving the crowd wanting more is what it is all about. Dorian had the shortest routine at the 96 mr O and got the biggest response. Shawn Ray did a fantastic 2 min routine at the 1990 mr O. Having several music changes is a mistake. Lee Preist always does a great shortish routine (maybe 2.30min but lee poses pretty slow so there aren't too many poses repeated which is what I'm really complaining about...)
Top 15 guys only allowed to pose at night. No more ken jones or that old canadian dude. If you aren't good enough to make the cut you don't get to pose at night simple as that. Some teams go to the soccer world cup and only play 3 games then go home but thats life if you aren't good enough.
Stage backgrounds... The guys need to be allowed to pose with LESS flashy backgrounds on the stage. Who else agrees that the IRONMAN is the best viewing show because the stage isn't full of extra props and signs etc. We all know the lighting is the best there bar none...
The more simple and streamlined you keep it the better. Remove the extra props and flashy shit and make it about the muscle... that what people are there for afterall...

Perfect post.

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« Reply #23 on: February 09, 2006, 01:12:39 PM »
Perfect post.
I do my best ;)

Unfortunately shows will become worse and worse the rate we are going.

Where do you stop when it comes to trying to make it more flashy?

Eventually there will be cock fights on stage at the rate we are going...

I've got no problem with using more audiovisual presentations on a big screen during the night show though.

How hard would it be to cut together a synopsis of the morning's prejudging to show people at the start of the night show.

They need to get a professional voice guy to record the intro's as well and the night show intro announcement.

Just dim the lights, have a professional voice intro to the show, bring down the big screen to show some of the prejudging with some commentary from someone like shawn ray then get the thing started.

You have to treat a night show like a movie...

1. you have the setup (intro, prejudge video with commentary) to show who is in the running.

2. you have the second act which in this case is the posing round.

3. You have the third act when you end the story as it builds to a climax. In this case the top 6 do the comparisons again followed by the posedown.

They should take a lead from track cycling and bring out the guys in the free posing in ascending order of the results from the prejudging to build the drama. In the 1km time trial the guy with the fastest heat time rides last.

eg. the guy with the lowest score from the pre-judging (in the top 15 that is...) poses first until the guy who was leading the prejudging poses last.

This would build the drama a lot more as the show reaches a climax...

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Re: Pro Division Inc Press Release #2 - Judging
« Reply #24 on: February 09, 2006, 01:33:44 PM »
Does Pro Division Bodybuilding have a website?