learned alot from mrs olympia carla dunlop when i was 15,also johnnie morant,guy duccasse,jason arntz,derrick whitsett where valuable in my early to mid years, id hang at the juice bar n listen to them talk about diet,training,getting ready for shows,what to take(drugs) ect for hours on end,i worked out with them afew times n picked their brains hard. plus my gym had about 15 top amatuers walking around at any givin time,i was fortunate to find such a place