Why fundamentally Bodybuilding is 90% about genetics only

[TheGrinch]

Had a training partner for a few years. I got muscular and he didn't even look like he worked out even though he was almost as strong as I was and did the exact same workout.

bingo...

I got stronger but scale and bodyfat % never moved in the combination that I wanted.

[devilsmile]

Me fat chubby Greek genetics of peace.

haha, "bro", I've seen your videos, and the video where Skorp1o owned your ass and I can tell you're of arab/paki/gypsy heritage , who do you think you're trying to fool. And I'm not talking shit, you're just not white at all, you're not.

[SuperTed]

I  disagree look at jay cutler he is blockY like a fridge and naturally smooth he would be better off as a strongman but he did not let his genetic limitations stop him hell no, tru hard work and extra dosage he was able win the olympia 4 times, now if he had followed your way of thinking he would have never won anything.   

Cutler never had the strength to do strongman.

[njflex]

Had a training partner for a few years. I got muscular and he didn't even look like he worked out even though he was almost as strong as I was and did the exact same workout.

X2,,same with guy I train with now for yrs he hangs with me on some stuff and even can do some heavier dumbells chest wise  but his chest stays flat as a pancake ,mine grows .

[jamesjenkinsfitness]

This is already well known.  But I question one thing? Why are people saying this and then comparing a natural to ifbb pros. Why do you expect. This is why there are natural federations.  Your friend looks good. Genetic freak?  No, average natural in a hard core gym, who competes. . He should do a natural fed. I'm lost as to the point of this post. Are there people that think ifbb pros, aren't heavily drugged?? Are there people that think that is attainable natural? Do people really shoot for the same look as pros?
Pros are a mix of good training, good gear, and ability of body to accept said gear. Nutrition.  But really everything in excess...

This is why I power lift lol. Drugs are less important.  You don't have to be a scientist. .. oh yeah and I'm not lifetime natural. For full disclosure.
Don't get frustrated.  Your friend looks good

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The vibe I am getting from this thread is that its bringing out the lazy quitters who dont have the discipline for the bodybuilding lifestyle so they are looking for excuses just like the fat bitch who says I am fat because of my genes while munching on the chocolate cake.

Why are you still talking?

[_aj_]

This is why I power lift lol. Drugs are less important.  You don't have to be a scientist. .. oh yeah and I'm not lifetime natural. For full disclosure.
Don't get frustrated.  Your friend looks good

Drugs are less important in PL'ing? Really?

[jamesjenkinsfitness]

Drugs are less important in PL'ing? Really?

You obviously don't powerlift my friend.. drug free records, aren't much higher than non tested. If you train right you can be strong as fuck.  10 years after only insulin still bench over 4 plates at 170 lbs.  Power lifting isn't all drugs.not nearly as much as bb

[jamesjenkinsfitness]

Drugs are less important in PL'ing? Really?

You'll rarely see a power lifter who knows what mgf, ghrp, etc are. Peptides, ? It's a lot simpler. Bodybuilders are chemists

[Uncle Junior]

 

And I'm not talking shit, you're just not white at all, you're not.

Haha...then you are both either very funny, trolling or stupid (no disrespect) trying to tell me where I am from and "i am not white"...lmao  

I agree I look pretty ugly stupid in my videos because I am always acting and wearing hat + glasses always so not to completely show my identity.

I look different in real life . Also my face is fat right now cos I haven't trained long time and coming back from sickness and been eating junk food each day so I look like shit.

This is what I would normally look like (the one in the photo, not the video)......I have huge nose I agree (surgery coming soon) but I promise you I am white....lololol  

[njflex]

Haha...then you are both either very funny, trolling or stupid (no disrespect) trying to tell me where I am from and "i am not white"...lmao  

I agree I look pretty ugly stupid in my videos because I am always acting and wearing hat + glasses always so not to completely show my identity.

I look different in real life . Also my face is fat right now cos I haven't trained long time and coming back from sickness and been eating junk food each day so I look like shit.

This is what I would normally look like (the one in the photo, not the video)......I have huge nose I agree (surgery coming soon) but I promise you I am white....lololol  

I THOUGHT 2ND PIC WAS COREY FELDMAN...

[Mawse]

You accidentally posted your warm up set with the 90's on those 'incline' presses bro

what about the 130's for ten you could knock out so easily?

[gracie bjj]

i remember in kid in high school who was totally shredded n pretty big,he had some nasty acne tho,i guess he had an upper hand when god gave out testosterone dosages,that dude got more than his share

[devilsmile]

Haha...then you are both either very funny, trolling or stupid (no disrespect) trying to tell me where I am from and "i am not white"...lmao  

I agree I look pretty ugly stupid in my videos because I am always acting and wearing hat + glasses always so not to completely show my identity.

I look different in real life . Also my face is fat right now cos I haven't trained long time and coming back from sickness and been eating junk food each day so I look like shit.

This is what I would normally look like (the one in the photo, not the video)......I have huge nose I agree (surgery coming soon) but I promise you I am white....lololol  

man if you're going to take a nose job because of cosmetic reasons, then lmao . Even booty took her nose job for health reasons. She took her boob job for her insecurities. Don't be a bitch, dude . Surgeries for cosmetic reasons for men is as gay as it gets.

But I dunno. something with english men with big nose, black hair and black eyes and white skin is, I dunno.. not white  . Not hating, it's just that I live in finland and I consider people with those features some sort of mixture, even if it's just a little bit because most people here have brown/white/red hair. And if they have black hair they have small nose and blue eyes, even the gypsies.

[Uncle Junior]

You accidentally posted your warm up set with the 90's on those 'incline' presses bro

what about the 130's for ten you could knock out so easily?

First training session back, still not 100% from sickness, still have shoulder injuries, wasn't pushing it but I can do 120-130 for 8-10 no problem, done it many times before, last time in Dubai, I am doing whole transformation video series so you will see what happens soon.

Doesn't take me long to get up to speed, even off cycle.

[Uncle Junior]

man if you're going to take a nose job because of cosmetic reasons, then lmao . Even booty took her nose job for health reasons. She took her boob job for her insecurities. Don't be a bitch, dude . Surgeries for cosmetic reasons for men is as gay as it gets.

But I dunno. something with english men with big nose, black hair and black eyes and white skin is, I dunno.. not white  . Not hating, it's just that I live in finland and I consider people with those features some sort of mixture, even if it's just a little bit because most people here have brown/white/red hair. And if they have black hair they have small nose and blue eyes, even the gypsies.

Yeah I understand were you are coming from I have quite a few Scandinavian and Finish poker player friends and they are pale as fuck usually, blonde hair blue eyes etc, good genetics...lol

I already had one nose job about 7 years ago (can't remember exactly when) but it was not cosmetic it was supposed to make me breath normal cos I broke my nose 3 times boxing and also had sleep Apnea.

But this time I am going to do cosmetically and reduce it by like 50%..lolol

I don't see what the difference is between injecting hormones to make your body look better or to have cosmetic surgery when you have huge nose like me.

I mean some people really don't need it and go crazy Michael Jackson style which is stupid I agree.....but with my nose size I think its completely justified. 

[devilsmile]

Yeah I understand were you are coming from I have quite a few Scandinavian and Finish poker player friends and they are pale as fuck usually, blonde hair blue eyes etc, good genetics...lol

I already had one nose job about 7 years ago (can't remember exactly when) but it was not cosmetic it was supposed to make me breath normal cos I broke my nose 3 times boxing and also had sleep Apnea.

But this time I am going to do cosmetically and reduce it by like 50%..lolol

I don't see what the difference is between injecting hormones to make your body look better or to have cosmetic surgery when you have huge nose like me.

I mean some people really don't need it and go crazy Michael Jackson style which is stupid I agree.....but with my nose size I think its completely justified.  

the white look, blue eyes, blond hair and white skin and whatever is thought as "great genetics" in men only outside of north europe.

Believe me, my old friend had incredible insecurities because he has snow white hair with perfect hairline, blue eyes and that typical north european white guy face.

In here, if a man looks pretty it symbolizes being weak, shit in bed and whatever for many of the white gals here. Unless ofcourse you carry yourself like a conqueror  , but the first impression is like "meh". Civilized white men with blond hair are considered extremely boring here, you better have incredible body with that type of thing going on.

So I'm just saying, great genetics has another concept out there in the world. Dark, manly and if the word means what I intend it to mean, "rugged" are desired features in men here.

[Uncle Junior]

the white look, blue eyes, blond hair and white skin and whatever is thought as "great genetics" in men only outside of north europe.

Believe me, my old friend had incredible insecurities because he has snow white hair with perfect hairline, blue eyes and that typical north european white guy face.

In here, if a man looks pretty it symbolizes being weak, shit in bed and whatever for many of the white gals here. Unless ofcourse you carry yourself like a conqueror  , but the first impression is like "meh". Civilized white men with blond hair are considered extremely boring here, you better have incredible body with that type of thing going on.

So I'm just saying, great genetics has another concept out there in the world. Dark, manly and if the word means what I intend it to mean, "rugged" are desired features in men here.

That's interesting I never thought anyone could be insecure about being blonde, blue eyed, white or tall. I would switch places very quickly with them if I could...lol

I am always attracted to tall, leggy, blue eyed blonde women, my girlfriend is 6ft nearly, blonde, blue eyes...lol

In ideal world I would want to look like this.

This look of a God. He must get so much pussy.

[devilsmile]

That's interesting I never thought anyone could be insecure about being blonde, blue eyed, white or tall. I would switch places very quickly with them if I could...lol

I am always attracted to tall, leggy, blue eyed blonde women, my girlfriend is 6ft nearly, blonde, blue eyes...lol

In ideal world I would want to look like this.

This look of a God. He must get so much pussy.

You didn't read what I said very well. the MEN with blond hair aren't desired. White women are desired everywhere as much as anywhere else.

Fuck you homo , read my post again, I am tired of explaining twice the same shit. Nothing but nordic people here, but dark feature men are more desired here than white if you ask most women. Dark tall men = white womens dream in norway, sweden and finland. Women start to desire pretty blond guys when you go to africa, asia or some corners in south america.

And the guys picture you posted, well DOH! He has a great body and has dark features, he's not entirely blond at all. Like I said, read my former post again or lets talk about something else... wait, we don't need to talk about nothing 

[Uncle Junior]

You didn't read what I said very well. the MEN with blond hair aren't desired. White women are desired everywhere as much as anywhere else.

Fuck you homo , read my post again, I am tired of explaining twice the same shit. Nothing but nordic people here, but dark feature men are more desired here than white if you ask most women. Dark tall men = white womens dream in norway, sweden and finland. Women start to desire pretty blond guys when you go to africa, asia or some corners in south america.

And the guys picture you posted, well DOH! He has a great body and has dark features, he's not entirely blond at all. Like I said, read my former post again or lets talk about something else... wait, we don't need to talk about nothing 

Oh I understood what you said in the first place, that's why I said I find it interesting because many men  outside your country want to be tall, white and blonde like Arnold, so opposite is true for many people etc.

So at least according to your theory maybe I should be able to get lots of pussy in your country since I have dark hair and brown eyes....lol

And I fucking love blonde women most in the world. 

[Frank Clairmonte]

Nose job, rofl, my own nose is fucking big, close to yours and I like it because its fucking bigger than noses of others.

[devilsmile]

Oh I understood what you said in the first place, that's why I said I find it interesting because many men  outside your country want to be tall, white and blonde like Arnold, so opposite is true for many people etc.

So at least according to your theory maybe I should be able to get lots of pussy in your country since I have dark hair and brown eyes....lol

And I fucking love blonde women most in the world.  

Ehh, arnold has brown hair, BROWN, not blond.

this is blond



And you didn't get my point the first time you read obviously or you would understand why 'great genetics' is not so great here... there's a hot brunette in my gym, she always had that 'tough bitch' look in her eyes, she has a strong phat ass, a 6'1 arab took her under his wings, he barely speaks finish and looks like he murdered a guy, but she looks at him like she just came. I'm sure the dudes size had a part in possessing her but still, the 'look', the 'feel' is nothing of nordic he has, he's completely opposite.

[Sophus]

This thread is in dedicated to Sev, a legendary fella I love who first showed me the way on Getbig!

It doesn't matter how hard you train!
It does not matter how much you diet or bulk!
It does not matter how much drugs you take...!

You will only improve so much...(usually not that much after 1st year)....unless

1) You gave great genetics for bodybuilding
2) You gave a great response to taking streronz and can handle side effects of high doses for long time.

EVEN THEN.....your success is still entirely governed by your genetics.
I know guys who take 2G steronz a week and still look like shit year in year out and guys who blow up like a ballon on 200mg a week.

This is a hard mutha-fucking fact of life you better get used too!

 

This was especially true in former days where it was all about your genetically set response to training, nutrition and steroids

And even then you needed to have great proportions to be succesfull in the sport ( most pros had great chest/arms and a small waist, legs werent too important )

Today it is A LOT about having great gh-connections and the money / sponsorship to afford it

GH works on everyone pretty much the same, unlike steroids where you need to have great response, and obviously it is key to be successfull today in combination with insulin, which is of course extremely cheap ( but the most anabolic hormone of them all )

So today people with great genetics may end up unsuccessfull in the sport due to lack of money, imagine if Kai Greene wouldnt have done g4p and relied on roids only and some 2iu gh or some shit, he wouldnt even be pro

For response to steroids it is all about being lean, see the black guy, fast metabolism and guaranteed lean even on loose diet, would blow up on roids ( or upping the dose, who really knows )

[Uncle Junior]

Ehh, arnold has brown hair, BROWN, not blond.

this is blond



And you didn't get my point the first time you read obviously or you would understand why 'great genetics' is not so great here... there's a hot brunette in my gym, she always had that 'tough bitch' look in her eyes, she has a strong phat ass, a 6'1 arab took her under his wings, he barely speaks finish and looks like he murdered a guy, but she looks at him like she just came.

Who is this guy I think I went to school with him not kidding,,,,,lol

Is his name Martin? He is also Swedish,,,,lol

I got your point, I guess different place have different idea of what is good genetics 

[Frank Clairmonte]