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It is the very essence of the American Dream: an irrepressible confidence that our children will live better than we do.

And now it is gone.


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It has been slipping for some time, really, but a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this month put an exclamation point on Americans’ lost optimism.

When asked if “life for our children’s generation will be better than it has been for us,” fully 76 percent said they do not have such confidence. Only 21 percent did. That was the worst ever recorded in the poll; in 2001, 49 percent were confident and 43 percent not.

When you look closer, things seem even worse, if that’s possible. I called Fred Yang, the Democratic pollster who conducted the survey along with Republican Bill McInturff, and he told me the pessimism was universal. The wealthy were as down as the poor (75 percent and 73 percent, respectively) and even those who felt that they were doing well personally didn’t think their children would do as well (61 percent). Women are as grim as men, and there’s little difference according to race (whites are slightly more pessimistic and Hispanics slightly less) or by region (Westerners are slightly less gloomy than the others).


The young are relatively less pessimistic than the old (64 percent to 86 percent) but still plenty discouraged in absolute terms. Republicans (88 percent) were more dour than Democrats (61 percent), just as Democrats were more dour than Republicans when the question was asked in 2006 (56 percent to 71 percent) during a similar stage in George W. Bush’s presidency.

In other words, the gloom goes beyond wealth, gender, race, region, age and ideology. This fractious nation is united by one thing: lost faith in the United States

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-americans-optimism-is-dying/2014/08/12/f81808d8-224c-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html



 



It is the very essence of the American Dream: an irrepressible confidence that our children will live better than we do.

And now it is gone.


Dana Milbank writes about political theater in the nation’s capital. He joined the Post as a political reporter in 2000. View Archive
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It has been slipping for some time, really, but a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this month put an exclamation point on Americans’ lost optimism.

When asked if “life for our children’s generation will be better than it has been for us,” fully 76 percent said they do not have such confidence. Only 21 percent did. That was the worst ever recorded in the poll; in 2001, 49 percent were confident and 43 percent not.

When you look closer, things seem even worse, if that’s possible. I called Fred Yang, the Democratic pollster who conducted the survey along with Republican Bill McInturff, and he told me the pessimism was universal. The wealthy were as down as the poor (75 percent and 73 percent, respectively) and even those who felt that they were doing well personally didn’t think their children would do as well (61 percent). Women are as grim as men, and there’s little difference according to race (whites are slightly more pessimistic and Hispanics slightly less) or by region (Westerners are slightly less gloomy than the others).


The young are relatively less pessimistic than the old (64 percent to 86 percent) but still plenty discouraged in absolute terms. Republicans (88 percent) were more dour than Democrats (61 percent), just as Democrats were more dour than Republicans when the question was asked in 2006 (56 percent to 71 percent) during a similar stage in George W. Bush’s presidency.

In other words, the gloom goes beyond wealth, gender, race, region, age and ideology. This fractious nation is united by one thing: lost faith in the United States


Hey Closet Queen,

When are you going to learn to read the entire article before you post it or do you just like publicly humiliating yourself

I know you have this irrational need to make as many posts as possible each day but you should really slow down just long enough to actually read them if only to give us less opportunity to point out that you're a fucking moron

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Yang’s suspicion, which I share, is that something deeper is also at work: Americans are reacting, in part, to the breakdown of the political system, which leaves people quite rationally worried about American decline and the nation’s diminishing ability to weather crises. “One of the hallmarks of being an American is the optimism that your children will be better off,” Yang told me. The lost optimism, he said, “says a lot about how shaken we are by the inability of our political system to address seemingly easy issues, and it leaves us worried about the future.”

In a narrow sense, this is good news for President Obama because it means the problem is not of his making but the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics. That’s bad news for the rest of us, though, because the problem is larger than any leader’s ability to bring hope and change.

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Hey Closet Queen,

When are you going to learn to read the entire article before you post it or do you just like publicly humiliating yourself

I know you have this irrational need to make as many posts as possible each day but you should really slow down just long enough to actually read them if only to give us less opportunity to point out that you're a fucking moron


Obama promised to fix it remember?    HOPE AND CHANGE???? 


It was not always this way - I remember the 1980's - was booming and people were a lot better off than this failed experiment with electing the least qualified person to the most important job in the land

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Obama promised to fix it remember?    HOPE AND CHANGE???? 


It was not always this way - I remember the 1980's - was booming and people were a lot better off than this failed experiment with electing the least qualified person to the most important job in the land

you sound like a whining little child and once again the title of your thread is a lie and you've face planted again since the very article you posted says that the disillusionment in our system was "the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics" and the problem is "not of his making"

fucking moron

I know you are mentally ill and this is very hard for you to deal with but at some point you need to take responsibility for your own mental health and get some help

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you sound like a whining little child and once again the title of your thread is a lie and you've face planted again since the very article you posted says that the disillusionment in our system was "the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics" and the problem is "not of his making"

fucking moron

I know you are mentally ill and this is very hard for you to deal with but at some point you need to take responsibility for your own mental health and get some help

So why were Americans more positive during Reagan than Obama?

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So why were Americans more positive during Reagan than Obama?

did you even read the article?

maybe it's because Dems and Republican actually compromised and worked together

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did you even read the article?

maybe it's because Dems and Republican actually compromised and worked together

Possibly - you mean Reagan had Tip Oneill at the WH for drinks all the time and tried to woo the other side?

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Possibly - you mean Reagan had Tip Oneill at the WH for drinks all the time and tried to woo the other side?

I mean the entire culture of Congress at the time.

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LOL @ losing optimism.

Who are these people, that were highly optimistic in April, and suddenly aren't feeling it today?  

Most people with a brain lost confidence in our leaders long ago.

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LOL @ losing optimism.

Who are these people, that were highly optimistic in April, and suddenly aren't feeling it today?  

Most people with a brain lost confidence in our leaders long ago.

UUUMMM - the right track wrong track has been drastically upside down most of this worthless ghetto looters' failed admn

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2014, 05:09:24 AM »
UUUMMM - the right track wrong track has been drastically upside down most of this worthless ghetto looters' failed admn

I'm pretty sure things have been going downhill since, well, the clinton era.

Imagine a world where Ron Paul wins the 1996 election lol.   Imagine what the USA looks like today. 

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2014, 05:11:03 AM »
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/08/14/joe_klein_on_obama_this_is_one_angry_man-comments.html



Shitbama is just pissed off that his destruction of this country is not coming fast enough.  F him - I hope he stays in Marthas Vinyeard the rest of his term where he can do coke, play golf, complain about Rush, etc

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2014, 05:13:43 AM »
I'm pretty sure things have been going downhill since, well, the clinton era.

Imagine a world where Ron Paul wins the 1996 election lol.   Imagine what the USA looks like today. 

The suckers and failed losers bought into that Hope and Change malarky - what happened to that? 

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2014, 06:07:58 AM »
The suckers and failed losers bought into that Hope and Change malarky - what happened to that? 

guess what... the same "suckers and failed losers" that elected obama will also elect the president in 2016.

maybe listen to rick santorum... stop making things so negative, as they really are turned off by it. 

Remember 2008... Obama attacked backwards, bush, which everyone hated.  He didn't attack the war hero mccain.
Remember 2008... Palin outraged her team with "Obama palling around with terrorists".  She attacked the current candidate.

That's a big difference there, to swing voters, AKA suckers and failed losers.  Santorum gets it.  Romney did not.  Romney actually INSULTED swing voters with the 47% talk, to a room full of giggling millionaires lol.

So if you want repubs to win in 2016, don't run a dick.  it's pretty simple actually.  Romney was a dick - even those who like him - they admit he's a dick.  Palin was great, but she was a dick, let's admit it. 

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #14 on: August 15, 2014, 09:09:34 AM »
UUUMMM - the right track wrong track has been drastically upside down most of this worthless ghetto looters' failed admn

hey dipshit

this is from the article that you posted

remember

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In a narrow sense, this is good news for President Obama because it means the problem is not of his making but the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics. That’s bad news for the rest of us, though, because the problem is larger than any leader’s ability to bring hope and change

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #15 on: August 15, 2014, 09:10:35 AM »
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/08/14/joe_klein_on_obama_this_is_one_angry_man-comments.html



Shitbama is just pissed off that his destruction of this country is not coming fast enough.  F him - I hope he stays in Marthas Vinyeard the rest of his term where he can do coke, play golf, complain about Rush, etc

hey dipshit

this is from the article that you posted

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In a narrow sense, this is good news for President Obama because it means the problem is not of his making but the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics. That’s bad news for the rest of us, though, because the problem is larger than any leader’s ability to bring hope and change

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #16 on: August 15, 2014, 09:11:39 AM »
The suckers and failed losers bought into that Hope and Change malarky - what happened to that? 

hey dipshit

this is from the article that you posted

remember

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In a narrow sense, this is good news for President Obama because it means the problem is not of his making but the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics. That’s bad news for the rest of us, though, because the problem is larger than any leader’s ability to bring hope and change

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2014, 09:13:52 AM »
hey dipshit

this is from the article that you posted

remember


He promised to fix it remember ?  He failed

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2014, 09:46:23 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/dana-milbank-americans-optimism-is-dying/2014/08/12/f81808d8-224c-11e4-8593-da634b334390_story.html


It is the very essence of the American Dream: an irrepressible confidence that our children will live better than we do.

And now it is gone.

Dana Milbank writes about political theater in the nation’s capital. He joined the Post as a political reporter in 2000. View Archive
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It has been slipping for some time, really, but a Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll this month put an exclamation point on Americans’ lost optimism.

When asked if “life for our children’s generation will be better than it has been for us,” fully 76 percent said they do not have such confidence. Only 21 percent did. That was the worst ever recorded in the poll; in 2001, 49 percent were confident and 43 percent not.

When you look closer, things seem even worse, if that’s possible. I called Fred Yang, the Democratic pollster who conducted the survey along with Republican Bill McInturff, and he told me the pessimism was universal. The wealthy were as down as the poor (75 percent and 73 percent, respectively) and even those who felt that they were doing well personally didn’t think their children would do as well (61 percent). Women are as grim as men, and there’s little difference according to race (whites are slightly more pessimistic and Hispanics slightly less) or by region (Westerners are slightly less gloomy than the others).

The young are relatively less pessimistic than the old (64 percent to 86 percent) but still plenty discouraged in absolute terms. Republicans (88 percent) were more dour than Democrats (61 percent), just as Democrats were more dour than Republicans when the question was asked in 2006 (56 percent to 71 percent) during a similar stage in George W. Bush’s presidency.

In other words, the gloom goes beyond wealth, gender, race, region, age and ideology. This fractious nation is united by one thing: lost faith in the United States



Im not even gonna debate you anymore.

Get help.

Seriously.

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2014, 09:47:23 AM »
you sound like a whining little child and once again the title of your thread is a lie and you've face planted again since the very article you posted says that the disillusionment in our system was "the result of two decades of scorched-earth politics" and the problem is "not of his making"

fucking moron

I know you are mentally ill and this is very hard for you to deal with but at some point you need to take responsibility for your own mental health and get some help

Stop feeding him.

He needs help.

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2014, 09:47:43 AM »
hey dipshit

this is from the article that you posted

remember


Good news for Obama that he gets to pass the buck and blame everyone else - bad news for the country that we have such a worthless dope fiend and communist fuck in office.   ;)

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2014, 10:14:21 AM »
He promised to fix it remember ?  He failed

poor baby

do you have a diaper rash or something

why are you always crying


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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2014, 10:17:53 AM »
poor baby

do you have a diaper rash or something

why are you always crying



Checkmate - you lose

Obama promised to fix it remember?  that is why you and others voted for him. 

There is no hope, no change, no difference, no improvement, nothing but scandal, failure, and disaster, and crisis with everything this idiot goes near. 

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Re: Americans' losing optimisim in future under failed Presidency of Obama
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2014, 10:19:24 AM »
Checkmate - you lose

Obama promised to fix it remember?  that is why you and others voted for him. 

There is no hope, no change, no difference, no improvement, nothing but scandal, failure, and disaster, and crisis with everything this idiot goes near. 


the adults are getting tired of your constant crying

find someone to change your diapers crybaby