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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2014, 04:38:51 PM »
People have a hard time accepting the fact Phil Heath probably surpassed Ronnie coleman 2 years ago.

Ronnie was good in his prime, but phil has a level of thickness and overall imposing nature that ronnie never captured.

Phil enters a room and people FEEL it - he's the champ.  Ronnie was humble and confident and all that, but Phil is just so much more of a personality and media star.  Above all, people LIKE phil.  He's likeable and personable.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2014, 04:43:52 PM »
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2014, 04:47:42 PM »
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2014, 05:29:27 PM »
Laughed to scorn? I think not.  Its highly debatable who the better bodybuilder was. Many think Ronnie. Many.

Yes. Laughed to scorn, as you're grossly outnumbered by the "golden age" guys.

Arnold retired nearly 35 years ago. But he's been on the cover of multiple muscle magazines EVERY YEAR since hanging up his trunks.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2014, 05:35:25 PM »
Outside of Kai and Heath, I think it will be boring. Rhoden's back isn't on par with the top two. Wolf's calves absolutely suck and he has no lower back. Ramy is huge but lacks separation and Olympia level conditioning.

Don't forget about Dexter.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2014, 05:47:55 PM »
Don't forget about Dexter.

What about him? Same ol' Dex. He has no chance of winning anymore.
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2014, 06:06:32 PM »
Love Phil but Ronnie was a different animal! Phil has still a few years to grow and change some.
Still its going be very hard to beat Ronnie!

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2014, 06:17:31 PM »
Love Phil but Ronnie was a different animal! Phil has still a few years to grow and change some.
Still its going be very hard to beat Ronnie!

It has nothing to do with size.It has to do with the way they're put together and the conditioning they're able to achieve. Phil will never be able to get shredded like Ronnie that year because of slin. Ronnie wasn't able to get into that condition anymore when he started using slin.
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2014, 06:24:12 PM »
;D

Phil looks better than Ronnie in that comparison , more detailed , better proportions.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2014, 06:29:26 PM »
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Ronnie was good in his prime, but phil has a level of thickness and overall imposing nature that ronnie never captured.


LMAO

I do hope you are being sarcastic..
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2014, 06:32:59 PM »
shouldnt even be compared

Coleman on another level

 dorian > Heath

Heath is just blow up fake muscle, not hard earned dense muscle like Ronnie

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2014, 06:54:25 PM »
Highly doubt Phil is 5'9 or 5'10. I've seen both guys a few times. Jay is 5'7 IMO. Phil is about the same. Dude probably wears elevator shoes off-stage.




Phil is taller, and Jay has been listed as 5'8 forever.
That first pic you can clearly see Phil is taller by looking at the shoulder line. Jay has his head tilted up and that faux hawk's tips give him the appearance of being taller.
The second pic, Phil leans back and puts one leg far more fwd in the BDB pose, so he loses height

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2014, 07:06:22 PM »
Love Phil but Ronnie was a different animal! Phil has still a few years to grow and change some.
Still its going be very hard to beat Ronnie!

phil's maxed out
he cant improve anymore
this year you will see his physique start its regression

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2014, 07:16:36 PM »
Yes. Laughed to scorn, as you're grossly outnumbered by the "golden age" guys.


You're way off but thats your opinion. 

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2014, 07:17:04 PM »
phil's maxed out
he cant improve anymore
this year you will see his physique start its regression
Phil is not maxed out. People have been saying that since 2007. He can improve his chest.
And he did say a long time ago that he wanted to see how big his arms could get...but that ain't a priority right now.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #42 on: August 13, 2014, 07:25:07 PM »
What about him? Same ol' Dex. He has no chance of winning anymore.

He supposedly never had a chance of winning in the first place. But, somehow he did it in 2008.

As for his being the 'same ol' Dex, what makes you think he needs to make any major changes to his physique? Shawn Ray stayed much the same (except for gradually getting bigger) and he placed top-5 nearly his entire career at the O.

If Greene and Heath slip up, Dex could conceivably put another Sandow on the mantle.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #43 on: August 13, 2014, 07:38:33 PM »
He supposedly never had a chance of winning in the first place. But, somehow he did it in 2008.

As for his being the 'same ol' Dex, what makes you think he needs to make any major changes to his physique? Shawn Ray stayed much the same (except for gradually getting bigger) and he placed top-5 nearly his entire career at the O.

If Greene and Heath slip up, Dex could conceivably put another Sandow on the mantle.

Bro there's virtually no chance of that happening.
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #44 on: August 13, 2014, 09:49:17 PM »
You can't compare Ronnie to Heath. No disrespect to Heath but Ronnie was light years ahead.

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #45 on: August 13, 2014, 09:57:22 PM »
You can't compare Ronnie to Heath. No disrespect to Heath but Ronnie was light years ahead.

That is what a Mr. Olympia should look like. Now we have Phil, with his little bird chest. Disgrace.
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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #46 on: August 13, 2014, 10:44:56 PM »
Heath has better arms

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #47 on: August 13, 2014, 11:17:06 PM »
Bro there's virtually no chance of that happening.

Like imaginary & idiotic story about black Jeezuus , ;D

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #48 on: August 13, 2014, 11:38:12 PM »
Phil should've stayed in the figure class, he can put on as much mass as he wants but will still look like a child next to prime Ronnie

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Re: Coleman vs. Heath - Is there any doubt who is better? I think not...
« Reply #49 on: August 14, 2014, 12:01:02 AM »
Phil already regressed.. Last year.

Wether it be permanent or conditioning remains to be seen

Kai also regressed