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Re: The truth about "my beautiful boy" Michael Brown
« Reply #250 on: August 17, 2014, 07:26:29 PM »
Then why do they have batons and tazers? They are trained to avoid killing people that punch them. I am sorry you know so little about law enforcement training. That's why you try to keep veering off into "average citizen" discussions.

It is you who does not know much about Law-enforcement training. If an officer is assaulted and determines the threat to be potentially fatal, factoring in environment, subject's gender, size, etc., he has every legal right to respond with lethal force ... and aim for centre of mass, preferably.

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Re: The truth about "my beautiful boy" Michael Brown
« Reply #251 on: August 17, 2014, 07:32:20 PM »
I like to think if I was Michael Brown people would leave bottles of ProTan, and posing trunks.   :D

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Re: The truth about "my beautiful boy" Michael Brown
« Reply #252 on: August 17, 2014, 07:33:46 PM »
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Re: The truth about "my beautiful boy" Michael Brown
« Reply #253 on: August 17, 2014, 07:46:13 PM »
hahaha!!! AWESOME

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Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired from front-no hands up
« Reply #254 on: August 17, 2014, 08:56:52 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/18/us/michael-brown-autopsy-shows-he-was-shot-at-least-6-times.html


Autopsy Shows Michael Brown Was Struck at Least 6 Times

By FRANCES ROBLES and JULIE BOSMANAUG. 17, 2014



FERGUSON, Mo. — Michael Brown, the unarmed black teenager who was killed by a police officer, sparking protests around the nation, was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, a preliminary private autopsy performed on Sunday found.

One of the bullets entered the top of Mr. Brown’s skull, suggesting his head was bent forward when it struck him and caused a fatal injury, according to Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former chief medical examiner for the City of New York, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the family’s request to conduct the separate autopsy. It was likely the last of bullets to hit him, he said.

Mr. Brown, 18, was also shot four times in the right arm, he said, adding that all the bullets were fired into his front.

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Re: Autopsy shows all bullets were fired into his front without hands up.
« Reply #255 on: August 17, 2014, 09:04:59 PM »
Doesn't matter. Activists aren't intrested in facts or the law.

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Re: Autopsy shows all bullets were fired into his front without hands up.
« Reply #256 on: August 17, 2014, 09:07:30 PM »
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« Reply #257 on: August 17, 2014, 09:08:42 PM »

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« Reply #258 on: August 17, 2014, 09:10:14 PM »
Autopsy reveals Michael Brown was shot at least 6 times

A preliminary autopsy has found that Michael Brown, the unarmed black teen who was killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, according to The New York Times.

According to the report, one of the bullets entered Brown’s skull from a trajectory that suggests his head was bent forward when he was struck with the fatal shot. The autopsy was performed by Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former New York City chief medical examiner, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the behest of the Brown family..

In addition to the two shots to his head, Brown was struck four times in his right arm. According to this preliminary autopsy all of the shots were located on the front of Brown’s body, which contradicts some witness accounts which suggested Brown was killed from behind while fleeing police.

There was reportedly no gunpowder on his body, which suggests that bullets weren’t fired at close range. But Baden did not have access to Brown’s clothes, which may have contained some gunpowder residue.

This autopsy will not be the final word on Brown’s death. Ferguson authorities are in the midst of conducting their own autopsy. Meanwhile on Sunday, Attorney General Eric Holder authorized a third autopsy to be conducted by federal authorities.  MSN

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Re: Mcdonalds looted tonight. The festivities have begun.
« Reply #259 on: August 17, 2014, 09:11:29 PM »
In, hope you're brewing some coffee. Keep us updated like you did with the Boston bombers.

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Re: Autopsy shows all bullets were fired into his front without hands up.
« Reply #260 on: August 17, 2014, 09:14:59 PM »
were they defensive wounds?   His arm was over his head, bullets traveled thru his arm into his head.

he was given a final shot with his head already pointed down.  Coup de grace?

No gunpowder.  Some distance between cop and bad guy.

Did the cop sustain any injuries?

I don't know where they were standing, how far apart.

This will be ruled a clean shoot.  Was the cop happy to issue 6 bullets very quickly into a man with hand over face and "one for the road"?  Yes.  But this will be ruled a clean shoot.


Autopsy reveals Michael Brown was shot at least 6 times

A preliminary autopsy has found that Michael Brown, the unarmed black teen who was killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, according to The New York Times.

According to the report, one of the bullets entered Brown’s skull from a trajectory that suggests his head was bent forward when he was struck with the fatal shot. The autopsy was performed by Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former New York City chief medical examiner, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the behest of the Brown family..

In addition to the two shots to his head, Brown was struck four times in his right arm. According to this preliminary autopsy all of the shots were located on the front of Brown’s body, which contradicts some witness accounts which suggested Brown was killed from behind while fleeing police.

There was reportedly no gunpowder on his body, which suggests that bullets weren’t fired at close range. But Baden did not have access to Brown’s clothes, which may have contained some gunpowder residue.

This autopsy will not be the final word on Brown’s death. Ferguson authorities are in the midst of conducting their own autopsy. Meanwhile on Sunday, Attorney General Eric Holder authorized a third autopsy to be conducted by federal authorities.  MSN

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« Reply #261 on: August 17, 2014, 09:15:18 PM »
Autopsy reveals Michael Brown was shot at least 6 times

A preliminary autopsy has found that Michael Brown, the unarmed black teen who was killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, according to The New York Times.

According to the report, one of the bullets entered Brown’s skull from a trajectory that suggests his head was bent forward when he was struck with the fatal shot. The autopsy was performed by Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former New York City chief medical examiner, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the behest of the Brown family..

In addition to the two shots to his head, Brown was struck four times in his right arm. According to this preliminary autopsy all of the shots were located on the front of Brown’s body, which contradicts some witness accounts which suggested Brown was killed from behind while fleeing police.

There was reportedly no gunpowder on his body, which suggests that bullets weren’t fired at close range. But Baden did not have access to Brown’s clothes, which may have contained some gunpowder residue.

This autopsy will not be the final word on Brown’s death. Ferguson authorities are in the midst of conducting their own autopsy. Meanwhile on Sunday, Attorney General Eric Holder authorized a third autopsy to be conducted by federal authorities.  MSN
All from the front and not with his hands up.  So much for "Hands up. Don`t Shoot" and shooting in the back.  It went down just as the friend of the Police Officer said it went down and that one eyewitness who actually saw it.

They still won`t accept this as fact though.

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« Reply #262 on: August 17, 2014, 09:16:13 PM »
All from the front and not with his hands up.  So much for "Hands up. Don`t Shoot" and shooting in the back.  It went down just as the friend of the Police Officer said it went down and that one eyewitness who actually saw it.

They still won`t accept this as fact though.

This will be ruled a clean shoot.   It sure looks like bad guy was given the final headshot.  But this will be ruled clean.

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Re: Autopsy shows all bullets were fired into his front without hands up.
« Reply #263 on: August 17, 2014, 09:17:31 PM »
were they defensive wounds?   His arm was over his head, bullets traveled thru his arm into his head.

he was given a final shot with his head already pointed down.  Coup de grace?

No gunpowder.  Some distance between cop and bad guy.

Did the cop sustain any injuries?

I don't know where they were standing, how far apart.

This will be ruled a clean shoot.  Was the cop happy to issue 6 bullets very quickly into a man with hand over face and "one for the road"?  Yes.  But this will be ruled a clean shoot.


Autopsy reveals Michael Brown was shot at least 6 times

A preliminary autopsy has found that Michael Brown, the unarmed black teen who was killed by a white police officer in Ferguson, Mo., was shot at least six times, including twice in the head, according to The New York Times.

According to the report, one of the bullets entered Brown’s skull from a trajectory that suggests his head was bent forward when he was struck with the fatal shot. The autopsy was performed by Dr. Michael M. Baden, the former New York City chief medical examiner, who flew to Missouri on Sunday at the behest of the Brown family..

In addition to the two shots to his head, Brown was struck four times in his right arm. According to this preliminary autopsy all of the shots were located on the front of Brown’s body, which contradicts some witness accounts which suggested Brown was killed from behind while fleeing police.

There was reportedly no gunpowder on his body, which suggests that bullets weren’t fired at close range. But Baden did not have access to Brown’s clothes, which may have contained some gunpowder residue.

This autopsy will not be the final word on Brown’s death. Ferguson authorities are in the midst of conducting their own autopsy. Meanwhile on Sunday, Attorney General Eric Holder authorized a third autopsy to be conducted by federal authorities.  MSN
1. His hands were not up at any time.
2. The cop went to the hospital and was treated for injuries.
3. They are still doing forensics on Gunpowder, including inside the vehicle where the gun was initially fired during the struggle.


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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired
« Reply #264 on: August 17, 2014, 09:20:51 PM »
I for one am a little bit tired of youths daring me to run over them by walking in the middle of the street.

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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired
« Reply #265 on: August 17, 2014, 09:20:58 PM »
1. His hands were not up at any time.
2. The cop went to the hospital and was treated for injuries.
3. They are still doing forensics on Gunpowder, including inside the vehicle where the gun was initially fired during the struggle.

it'll help a lot that the cop was injured.  Would like to see how far away they were.

The autopsy said "Bullet re-entry"?   Did some of the rounds enter his arm and pass thru to his head?   If he was reaching into a cop's car when he took that bullet, it makes sense.  If he had those wounds standing in the street, it'd be something else.

Reach into anyone's car, anyway, and yeah, it can't end well.  

I dislike police changing their report of motive of initial stop, shady as shit.  But the shoot part looks violent and legit.




I for one am a little bit tired of youths daring me to run over them by walking in the middle of the street.

Where is Officer Tony Stewart when they need him?

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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired
« Reply #266 on: August 17, 2014, 09:29:13 PM »
How many shots were fired is a non-issue...even though it's headline material. When cops use lethal force they are trained to empty the magazine until there is no perceived threat. If this guy was that big and had physically attacked the PO it shouldn't be a surprise that he was shot multiple times.

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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired from front-no hands up
« Reply #267 on: August 17, 2014, 09:31:27 PM »
There is no reason the feds need to be involved.  Holder suffers from paranoid delusions and a victim complex.  The police office r was continually firing while Brown was in motion and this explains the bullet entry points.
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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired from front-no hands up
« Reply #268 on: August 17, 2014, 09:34:31 PM »
Just open fire on that God forsaken town already. Cut 'em all down so they can start anew.

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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired
« Reply #269 on: August 17, 2014, 09:42:13 PM »
Where is Officer Tony Stewart when they need him?

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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired from front-no hands up
« Reply #270 on: August 17, 2014, 09:44:35 PM »
There is no reason the feds need to be involved.  Holder suffers from paranoid delusions and a victim complex.  The police office r was continually firing while Brown was in motion and this explains the bullet entry points.

the police dept changed their story.  I can see why the feds got involved before it turned into zimmerman II.

They announced one motive for stopping the man.
Then they announced a "modified" motive for stopping the man.

First, he was just jaywalking and he didn't know it was a robbery suspect when he fired.
Then, new version...suddenly cop recognized robbery suspect BEFORE he shot him 6 times.

The 1st scenario, likely the actual one, makes it look like police just profile people jaywalking in that town and shoot them 6 times if they act up.  Brutal and worthy of serious investigation.

The 2nd scenario, the sanitized one, makes it look like a swift officer recognized a criminal fleeing a felony, engaged him, and fired to protect himself - and society.  He's a hero.  

ALL THAT comes down to "Why did he stop and engage this person".   If indeed, it was jaywalking LOL, then people are going to wonder why that person was singled out.  Unless that cop has history of jaywaking citations, seems odd.   So yeah, they changed story.  That warrants bringing in feds to keep em honest.

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« Reply #271 on: August 17, 2014, 09:50:03 PM »
the police dept changed their story.  I can see why the feds got involved before it turned into zimmerman II.

They announced one motive for stopping the man.
Then they announced a "modified" motive for stopping the man.

First, he was just jaywalking and he didn't know it was a robbery suspect when he fired.
Then, new version...suddenly cop recognized robbery suspect BEFORE he shot him 6 times.

The 1st scenario, likely the actual one, makes it look like police just profile people jaywalking in that town and shoot them 6 times if they act up.  Brutal and worthy of serious investigation.

The 2nd scenario, the sanitized one, makes it look like a swift officer recognized a criminal fleeing a felony, engaged him, and fired to protect himself - and society.  He's a hero.  

ALL THAT comes down to "Why did he stop and engage this person".   If indeed, it was jaywalking LOL, then people are going to wonder why that person was singled out.  Unless that cop has history of jaywaking citations, seems odd.   So yeah, they changed story.  That warrants bringing in feds to keep em honest.

Irrelevant why they were stopped.  The police officer was attacked, a struggle for his gun then ensued and then Brown was shot thereafter.

I do find it relevant however, that Michael Brown just robbed the store.  Five minutes after robbing the store, the cop stops him which obviously put Brown in a heightened state.  He figured he was busted and was going to do everything to get away, including assaulting the cop.  I find it amusing that many claim the robbery is irrelevant.  It most certainly is.

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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired from front-no hands up
« Reply #272 on: August 17, 2014, 09:53:05 PM »
Irrelevant why they were stopped.  The police officer was attacked, a struggle for his gun then ensued and then Brown was shot thereafter.

I do find it relevant however, that Michael Brown just robbed the store.  Five minutes after robbing the store, the cop stops him which obviously put Brown in a heightened state.  He figured he was busted and was going to do everything to get away, including assaulting the cop.  I find it amusing that many claim the robbery is irrelevant.  It most certainly is.

I think the shoot was legal.

I just get really upset when police fudge documents to benefit themselves.   

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« Reply #273 on: August 17, 2014, 09:54:58 PM »
Irrelevant why they were stopped.  The police officer was attacked, a struggle for his gun then ensued and then Brown was shot thereafter.

I do find it relevant however, that Michael Brown just robbed the store.  Five minutes after robbing the store, the cop stops him which obviously put Brown in a heightened state.  He figured he was busted and was going to do everything to get away, including assaulting the cop.  I find it amusing that many claim the robbery is irrelevant.  It most certainly is.
the police dept changed their story.  I can see why the feds got involved before it turned into zimmerman II.

They announced one motive for stopping the man.
Then they announced a "modified" motive for stopping the man.

First, he was just jaywalking and he didn't know it was a robbery suspect when he fired.
Then, new version...suddenly cop recognized robbery suspect BEFORE he shot him 6 times.

The 1st scenario, likely the actual one, makes it look like police just profile people jaywalking in that town and shoot them 6 times if they act up.  Brutal and worthy of serious investigation.

The 2nd scenario, the sanitized one, makes it look like a swift officer recognized a criminal fleeing a felony, engaged him, and fired to protect himself - and society.  He's a hero.  

ALL THAT comes down to "Why did he stop and engage this person".   If indeed, it was jaywalking LOL, then people are going to wonder why that person was singled out.  Unless that cop has history of jaywaking citations, seems odd.   So yeah, they changed story.  That warrants bringing in feds to keep em honest.


This would be my take has well, TA.  I would also add that Holder getting involved is precisely the reason this is becoming Zimmerman 2.  
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Re: Michael Brown - Autopsy show all bullets were fired from front-no hands up
« Reply #274 on: August 17, 2014, 09:56:54 PM »
I think the shoot was legal.

I just get really upset when police fudge documents to benefit themselves.   
I don`t think that was the case at all.  The investigation can`t be complete instantly.  It has to go through many channels and alot of those times, there is a lack of communication or is miscommunication early on.  I don`t think there was any ill intent here.