Jean-Pierre Fux - In the long run, the squat accident saved his life

[_bruce_]

In heaven, Kovacs has angels with silk towels wiping his ass!

Love your beautifully cheek-ish attitude.

[falco]

[falco]

Another guy who's life was saved.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Yep. Funny how Dave Palumbo is outliving all these guys.

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Dave's not in the best of health but he's eating right and doing a lot of cardio.  He's always been a health nut whereas other guys haven't.  I lot of the death are mainly attributed to a combination of steroids and poor habits such as improper nutrition, smoking, rec drugs, pain meds etc.

Your body can only handle one vice at best....compounding them will lead to an early death

[falco]

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Dave's not in the best of health but he's eating right and doing a lot of cardio.  He's always been a health nut whereas other guys haven't.  I lot of the death are mainly attributed to a combination of steroids and poor habits such as improper nutrition, smoking, rec drugs, pain meds etc.

Your body can only handle one vice at best....compounding them will lead to an early death

Being 300lbs doesn't help either.

[Bevo]

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Dave's not in the best of health but he's eating right and doing a lot of cardio.  He's always been a health nut whereas other guys haven't.  I lot of the death are mainly attributed to a combination of steroids and poor habits such as improper nutrition, smoking, rec drugs, pain meds etc.

Your body can only handle one vice at best....compounding them will lead to an early death

Most importantly he's not trying to walk around looking pro size or anything , that has a lot to do with it

Who's next to go?

Ruhl? Ronnie?

[MCWAY]

40 seems to be the tipping point for the mass monsters. If they're not slimming down and backing off on the drugs by then, they seem to be either busted out or dead a few years after that.

Vince Taylor is pushing 60. He seems to be fine. Dennis James is almost 50, as is Tony Freeman. They seem to be alive and well. And let's not forget Big Louie. He was at his biggest in his 40s, 315 lbs ripped.

Robby Robinson wasn't exactly a shrimp, when he was Masters Mr. Olympia. He looked awesome at 50.

[Danimal77]

what do you mean he's the picture of health. always wondered what his blood pressure was?

His chest in that pic had to be photoshopped. If not, we're looking at an easy 70" right there.

[Danimal77]

Another guy who's life was saved?

Oh the irony on that one..lol

[Var City]

Most importantly he's not trying to walk around looking pro size or anything , that has a lot to do with it

Who's next to go?

Ruhl? Ronnie?

I think the irony will be Ruhl will last to be like 105 and always a monster

Next? Hm.... Hate to say it but it's Ronnie if he tries to stay huge post hip replacement

If he goes down to maybe 220 and lives a normal life for a 5"10" male (even a post BB) he can live a long prosperous life and be a dad  to his 9000 kids

But he's kinda half potato so we'll see

[the trainer]

Another guy who's life was saved.

This was a mass monster before his time, but remember this is an 80s bodybuilder drugs where not hardcore like the 90s so he would be ok.

[Var City]

This was a mass monster before his time, but remember this is an 80s bodybuilder drugs where not hardcore like the 90s so he would be ok.

Tl; DR; fy

[falco]

Most importantly he's not trying to walk around looking pro size or anything , that has a lot to do with it

Who's next to go?

Ruhl? Ronnie?

Gustavo Badell.

[falco]

This was a mass monster before his time, but remember this is an 80s bodybuilder drugs where not hardcore like the 90s so he would be ok.

He competed until 1993.

[BB]

Vince Taylor is pushing 60. He seems to be fine. Dennis James is almost 50, as is Tony Freeman. They seem to be alive and well. And let's not forget Big Louie. He was at his biggest in his 40s, 315 lbs ripped.

Robby Robinson wasn't exactly a shrimp, when he was Masters Mr. Olympia. He looked awesome at 50.

Vince was big, but he was never huge, huge, and he never really developed the look a lot of the guys get. I'll give you Dennis James, Louie was huge, but he was also a good half a foot taller than the average, he also understood breaks, and got relatively small and lean afterward. Toney sort of is like Louie, he's taller and hasn't been playing the huge game for too long.

It isn't a perfect theory, but it's just what I've seen across all of the strength sports.

[local hero]

I'm glad I got a load of injuries in my 20's that fucked up my competitive plans, id of half killed my self to try to get a top 3 finish at best, I know some of my sucessfull palls do bristle everytime one of the pros drop down dead early

[funk51]

    been there done that.

[falco]

   been there done that.

Jean Pierre? C'est toi?

[wes]

[Natural Man]

Jean Pierre? C'est toi?

tiens du français

[The_Punisher]

Another mass monster from the 90s. He had to retire from bbing after he blew up his kness on that squat accident  but if he had continued he would probably be dead, or very sick.







Discuss

to put it simply, it was a blessing in disguise....

[falco]

tiens du français

Je parle un petit peau mon amie.

[Bevo]

Gustavo Badell.

Forgot all about him

Would love to see how he and Bertil look nowadays or even guys like mike Francois

[oldtimer1]

Vince Taylor is pushing 60. He seems to be fine. Dennis James is almost 50, as is Tony Freeman. They seem to be alive and well. And let's not forget Big Louie. He was at his biggest in his 40s, 315 lbs ripped.

Robby Robinson wasn't exactly a shrimp, when he was Masters Mr. Olympia. He looked awesome at 50.

You sound like the guy who smokes and uses their 75 year old grand ma who smokes as an example of how the health risk is exaggerated. That's rationalization. There are no real studies involving bodybuilders using bodybuilding drugs that exists. All we have is empirical knowledge. Where there is smoke there is fire.

 Robby is a freak. He claims he competed in a lot of minor contests while living in Florida before he knew what steroids were. When he moved to California he was introduced to steroids and he claims he only used them for a contest then trained natural. Robby competed at between 200 and 210 at 5'8" most of his career. I know for a few contests he was slightly higher.

Steroids are a risk to health. Will all suffer major health complications? No. Right now law suits are flying concerning ultra low dose testosterone replacement. Ultra low dose compared to what bodybuilders take. They found statistically a much greater incident of heart attack and stroke in older men taking HRT. I know some will argue till their blue in the face that these older men had pre existing heart trouble but they can't argue the clear increase in cardio vascular incidents.

[gracie bjj]

You sound like the guy who smokes and uses their 75 year old grand ma who smokes as an example of how the health risk is exaggerated. That's rationalization. There are no real studies involving bodybuilders using bodybuilding drugs that exists. All we have is empirical knowledge. Where there is smoke there is fire.

 Robby is a freak. He claims he competed in a lot of minor contests while living in Florida before he knew what steroids were. When he moved to California he was introduced to steroids and he claims he only used them for a contest then trained natural. Robby competed at between 200 and 210 at 5'8" most of his career. I know for a few contests he was slightly higher.

Steroids are a risk to health. Will all suffer major health complications? No. Right now law suits are flying concerning ultra low dose testosterone replacement. Ultra low dose compared to what bodybuilders take. They found statistically a much greater incident of heart attack and stroke in older men taking HRT. I know some will argue till their blue in the face that these older men had pre existing heart trouble but they can't argue the clear increase in cardio vascular incidents.

u know what gets me also oldtimer is u look at some of these mass monsters from the 90,s and even mid 2000,s n some look like they never lifted a weight in their lives,then u look at guys like BILL GRANT and ROBBIE ROBINSON from the 70,s n They look awesome at almost 70, thats the difference from guys who truelly love the sport n guys who do it for other reasons