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No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« on: August 18, 2014, 08:24:50 AM »
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26301402/15-shot-in-nyc-within-8-hours-2-dead

NEW YORK (MYFOXNY) - Fifteen people were shot in a rash of violence in New York City.

The violence left two people dead and 13 others injured within a span of just 8 hours.
The NYPD reported the first shooting late Saturday.  It happened at an East Harlem Park.

In that incident, 3 people were shot, with one of the victims being seriously injured, at Jefferson Park on 113th Street and First Avenue; Shortly before 3 a.m.

On Sunday, 2 people were shot dead in Hamilton Heights when a driver got out of his car and opened fire.

The motorist fled after killing a 21-year-old and a 29-year-old man.


A man in his 20s was shot on West 128th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue in Harlem at around 1 a.m.

A 19-year-old man was shot on Lewis Avenue and Van Buren Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant at around 2 a.m. And a 26-year-old was shot at Sutter Avenue and Pennsylvania Avenue in East New York at around 5:30 a.m.

3 people were shot in the Mott Haven section of the Bronx around 3 a.m. Sunday.

A 19-year-old and a 24-year-old were both shot in the arm and a 29-year-old was shot in the thigh. The three victims are expected to survive.

In the South Jamaica section of Queens at around 6 a.m. Sunday, 4 people were shot when two men got out of a car and fired more than 20 rounds. Two of them are in critical condition.

Police say three other people were shot and injured with non-life-threatening injuries in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

Officers from the NYPD also shot and injured a man who was attacking a woman with a knife in an apartment building in the Bronx shortly before 4 a.m. Sunday.

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2014, 08:26:31 AM »
To be honest, this is how most of us Europeans figure New York is on a normal day anyway.

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2014, 08:28:21 AM »
Stop and frisk is unconstitutional amd an abuse of power IMHO.

The bigger stupidity here is NYC gun rules. Stop and frisk wouldnt be needed (like every other city) if the criminals knew their targets may be armed.

I find it funny that the two strictest cities on guns have had the most serious streaks of people being sho

Derp.

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2014, 08:28:57 AM »
In other breaking news, the sun came up again

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2014, 08:33:43 AM »
NY will now claim this is a 'gun problem' and proceed to punish the upstate rural law abiding gun owners for the actions of urban black gang bangers.

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2014, 08:36:58 AM »
We elected a communist pofs "progressive" liberal DiBlasio.   Many of us predicted this - tough shit. 

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2014, 12:13:51 PM »
http://www.myfoxny.com/story/26301402/15-shot-in-nyc-within-8-hours-2-dead

NEW YORK (MYFOXNY) - Fifteen people were shot in a rash of violence in New York City.

The violence left two people dead and 13 others injured within a span of just 8 hours.
The NYPD reported the first shooting late Saturday.  It happened at an East Harlem Park.

In that incident, 3 people were shot, with one of the victims being seriously injured, at Jefferson Park on 113th Street and First Avenue; Shortly before 3 a.m.

On Sunday, 2 people were shot dead in Hamilton Heights when a driver got out of his car and opened fire.

The motorist fled after killing a 21-year-old and a 29-year-old man.


A man in his 20s was shot on West 128th Street and St. Nicholas Avenue in Harlem at around 1 a.m.

A 19-year-old man was shot on Lewis Avenue and Van Buren Street in Bedford-Stuyvesant at around 2 a.m. And a 26-year-old was shot at Sutter Avenue and Pennsylvania Avenue in East New York at around 5:30 a.m.

3 people were shot in the Mott Haven section of the Bronx around 3 a.m. Sunday.

A 19-year-old and a 24-year-old were both shot in the arm and a 29-year-old was shot in the thigh. The three victims are expected to survive.

In the South Jamaica section of Queens at around 6 a.m. Sunday, 4 people were shot when two men got out of a car and fired more than 20 rounds. Two of them are in critical condition.

Police say three other people were shot and injured with non-life-threatening injuries in Manhattan and Brooklyn.

Officers from the NYPD also shot and injured a man who was attacking a woman with a knife in an apartment building in the Bronx shortly before 4 a.m. Sunday.


Correlation does not imply causation. Also, it's unclear that there's even correlation here to begin with... but don't let that stop you from putting a ridiculously overbroad, inaccurate and inflammatory title.

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2014, 12:25:00 PM »
Correlation does not imply causation. Also, it's unclear that there's even correlation here to begin with... but don't let that stop you from putting a ridiculously overbroad, inaccurate and inflammatory title.

Many of us predicted a return to the high crime times in NYC w the election of a Marxist communist liberal pos.  no surprise to anyone w an ounce of a clue

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2014, 12:34:18 PM »
Many of us predicted a return to the high crime times in NYC w the election of a Marxist communist liberal pos.  no surprise to anyone w an ounce of a clue

And this has what exactly to do with my comment about this topic, which is about how dario's topic falsely conflates rising violence with stop and frisk policies? The answer is, of course, nothing at all, so what's your point troll?

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2014, 12:48:43 PM »
And this has what exactly to do with my comment about this topic, which is about how dario's topic falsely conflates rising violence with stop and frisk policies? The answer is, of course, nothing at all, so what's your point troll?

Not at all - ending stop and F is part of it, the thugs in NYC are now emboldened and feeling less pressure from NYPD due to the policies of Diblasio.  They took and take note and act accordingly

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2014, 12:51:06 PM »
Stop and frisk is unconstitutional amd an abuse of power IMHO.

The bigger stupidity here is NYC gun rules. Stop and frisk wouldnt be needed (like every other city) if the criminals knew their targets may be armed.

I find it funny that the two strictest cities on guns have had the most serious streaks of people being sho

Derp.

I agree on the unconstitutionality of stop and frisk and wish more people would argue this angle instead of the racial angle.
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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2014, 01:01:57 PM »
Not at all - ending stop and F is part of it, the thugs in NYC are now emboldened and feeling less pressure from NYPD due to the policies of Diblasio.  They took and take note and act accordingly

Please provide evidence in support of your position. Please remember that (a) correlation does not imply causation; and (b) just because you say it doesn't make it so.

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2014, 01:03:51 PM »
Please provide evidence in support of your position. Please remember that (a) correlation does not imply causation; and (b) just because you say it doesn't make it so.

I live here.   The evidence is all over the place.  They passed this garbage SAFE Act after Newton making it even harder for law abiding citizens to arm themselves, and shootings have increased

Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2014, 01:07:04 PM »
Sounds like lots of older, white tea party types have been driving into the city and using their CCW to kill urban youths. NY should make it impossible for these racists to own guns (or drink large sodas)

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2014, 01:12:55 PM »
I live here.   The evidence is all over the place.

Great, which means you should have absolutely no problem presenting solid evidence highlighting how stopping stop-and-frisk directly led to an increase in the violence. Get to it...


They passed this garbage SAFE Act after Newton making it even harder for law abiding citizens to arm themselves, and shootings have increased

That may very well be true. But that's not relevant to stop-and-frisk.


Does not take a rocket scientist to figure out what is going on

For a lawyer, the arguments you make are remarkably weak - it's almost like you haven't even walked by a community college, let alone a University with a law school. No wonder you're not practicing... after all, which bar would admit a waiter that can't argue and can't open bottles?

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2014, 01:24:43 PM »
Great, which means you should have absolutely no problem presenting solid evidence highlighting how stopping stop-and-frisk directly led to an increase in the violence. Get to it...


That may very well be true. But that's not relevant to stop-and-frisk.


For a lawyer, the arguments you make are remarkably weak - it's almost like you haven't even walked by a community college, let alone a University with a law school. No wonder you're not practicing... after all, which bar would admit a waiter that can't argue and can't open bottles?

LOL.   Im making a general observation as a person who lives here - nothing else. 

Many of us said the day DiBlasio got elected what was going to occur and it has

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2014, 01:43:25 PM »
Sounds like lots of older, white tea party types have been driving into the city and using their CCW to kill urban youths. NY should make it impossible for these racists to own guns (or drink large sodas)

Lmfao...this is the exact narrative that these idiot dems and all their media buddies try so hard to push

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2014, 05:02:47 PM »
Stop and frisk is unconstitutional amd an abuse of power IMHO.

The bigger stupidity here is NYC gun rules. Stop and frisk wouldnt be needed (like every other city) if the criminals knew their targets may be armed.

I find it funny that the two strictest cities on guns have had the most serious streaks of people being sho

Derp.



yep.  /end thread

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2014, 05:12:15 PM »






OK, there it is. I'm off to the gym now.  ;)
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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2014, 05:21:45 PM »
I agree on the unconstitutionality of stop and frisk and wish more people would argue this angle instead of the racial angle.

It's been pretty well established that it's unconstitutional. I don't see what's left to argue, although certainly if you're going to debate against people who think that stop-and-frisk is acceptable, then "it's not Constitutional" is a much better argument than whining "but... blacks and latinos!!!!!111"

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Re: No stop and frisk in NY=15 people shot in 8 hours
« Reply #20 on: August 18, 2014, 05:38:48 PM »
Not at all - ending stop and F is part of it, the thugs in NYC are now emboldened and feeling less pressure from NYPD due to the policies of Diblasio.  They took and take note and act accordingly


So fuck the Constitution?