100 Dead Blacks vs 5000 Dead Blacks - what gets more coverage?

[Soul Crusher]

Dr. Ben Carson just pointed out 100 blacks were killed by police officers last year. Horrible, right? The he asked how many blacks were killed by other blacks during the same period? 5,000.

 Crickets from Obama, Holder, Sharpton and Jackson.

[24KT]

Farrakhan cares, ...and actually does something about it, ...but the powers that be won't let him.
Instead they are so fearful of him and his influence that they seek to silence him at every turn, and twist his words

[tonymctones]

Farrakhan cares, ...and actually does something about it, ...but the powers that be won't let him.
Instead they are so fearful of him and his influence that they seek to silence him at every turn, and twist his words

b/c without the "white racist hate monger" the liberals dont have much to stand on in elections

[Archer77]

What is staggering is that blacks commit assaults against whites twenty-fives more than whites on blacks.  In terms of aggravated assault, the number is two-hundred times more. The National Crime Victimization Survey reported approximately 13,000 black-on-white rapes and 39,000 black-on-white robberies – both violent crimes. The statistics show that the number of white on black rapes and violent robberies were so small that they had to be rounded to the nearest whole number, and that whole number was zero.  This is the reality we live in and not the fantasy land perpetuate by fools where racist white cops killing blacks is an epidemic.

[24KT]

What is staggering is that blacks commit assaults against whites twenty-fives more than whites on blacks.  In terms of aggravated assault, the number is two-hundred times more. The National Crime Victimization Survey reported approximately 13,000 black-on-white rapes and 39,000 black-on-white robberies – both violent crimes. The statistics show that the number of white on black rapes and violent robberies were so small that they had to be rounded to the nearest whole number, and that whole number was zero.  This is the reality we live in and not the fantasy land perpetuate by fools where racist white cops killing blacks is an epidemic.

How many racist cop killings is tolerable in your eyes? I think just one is too many.
Whether its a racist white cop, or a racist Black cop, racist Asian, Latino,  etc., racist have no business being cops, but that is the foundational history & legacy of policing in Missouri isn't it?



Missouri Officer Under Review For Not Hiding His Racism-
Embarrassing Department

AUGUST 19, 2014




“Remember how white people rioted after OJ’s acquittal? Me neither,” Officer Catron wrote.

Kansas City police officer, Marc Catron, is currently under review for posting a photo of an accused killer from Oregon- claiming it was Mike Brown, followed by racially charged comments.

“I’m sure young Michael Brown is innocent and just misunderstood. I’m sure he is a pillar of the Ferguson community.” Officer Catron wrote.

The photo has been making its rounds on social media by people attempting to character assassinate the 18-year-old who was unarmed when executed by Officer Darren Wilson. However, the photo is actually of Joda Cain, who has been charged with killing his great grandmother with a sledge hammer last year, in Oregon.

Catron didn’t just stop there though, he continued, posting-

“Remember how white people rioted after OJ’s acquittal? Me neither,”

The department’s social media policy states that officers should not post images or make statements that “ridicule, malign, disparage or otherwise express bias against any race, any religion or other protected class of individuals.” according to KCTV5.

Before anyone starts on the “Free speech” rant, here is what the first amendment really means.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That means the government can’t (shouldn’t) come after you for expressing your opinion, it does NOT mean you can say whatever you want and not get fired from your job or be called out for being a jerk. This seems to be a common misconception.

Public statements like this from the boys in blue certainly do not help their case against claims of racism.

If there is one thing that can actually get you in trouble as a cop, its embarrassing your department (killing unarmed people is A-OK). It will be interesting to see if he faces a greater punishment than the killer cops we see back on the streets every day.

[Archer77]

How many racist cop killings is tolerable in your eyes? I think just one is too many.
Whether its a racist white cop, or a racist Black cop, racist Asian, Latino,  etc., racist have no business being cops, but that is the foundational history & legacy of policing in Missouri isn't it?



Missouri Officer Under Review For Not Hiding His Racism-
Embarrassing Department

AUGUST 19, 2014




“Remember how white people rioted after OJ’s acquittal? Me neither,” Officer Catron wrote.

Kansas City police officer, Marc Catron, is currently under review for posting a photo of an accused killer from Oregon- claiming it was Mike Brown, followed by racially charged comments.

“I’m sure young Michael Brown is innocent and just misunderstood. I’m sure he is a pillar of the Ferguson community.” Officer Catron wrote.

The photo has been making its rounds on social media by people attempting to character assassinate the 18-year-old who was unarmed when executed by Officer Darren Wilson. However, the photo is actually of Joda Cain, who has been charged with killing his great grandmother with a sledge hammer last year, in Oregon.

Catron didn’t just stop there though, he continued, posting-

“Remember how white people rioted after OJ’s acquittal? Me neither,”

The department’s social media policy states that officers should not post images or make statements that “ridicule, malign, disparage or otherwise express bias against any race, any religion or other protected class of individuals.” according to KCTV5.

Before anyone starts on the “Free speech” rant, here is what the first amendment really means.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

That means the government can’t (shouldn’t) come after you for expressing your opinion, it does NOT mean you can say whatever you want and not get fired from your job or be called out for being a jerk. This seems to be a common misconception.

Public statements like this from the boys in blue certainly do not help their case against claims of racism.

If there is one thing that can actually get you in trouble as a cop, its embarrassing your department (killing unarmed people is A-OK). It will be interesting to see if he faces a greater punishment than the killer cops we see back on the streets every day.

You have to first prove the cops are racist and the person was shot because of race.  You can't assume because the cop was white hes a racist.  That's a form of prejudice.    You have no proof.  All you have is your paranoia and bias.

And, when are you going to do something about the black crime rate?  When are you going to do something about the number of rapes committed by blacks against whites?  When are you going to riot over the disproportionate number of whites attacked, murdered and raped by blacks?

[OzmO]

Which makes you wonder...   where is the outcry for 13,000 black on white rape victims? 

Not to say that if Wilson wrongfully shot Brown isn't significant or that Brown dying isn't significant.

But to try and use "race" in the media with those black on white numbers makes it look beyond stupid. 

[Al Doggity]

Which makes you wonder...   where is the outcry for 13,000 black on white rape victims?  

Not to say that if Wilson wrongfully shot Brown isn't significant or that Brown dying isn't significant.

But to try and use "race" in the media with those black on white numbers makes it look beyond stupid.  

Not if you take into account how dubious those numbers are. This study has been discussed in detail for years on the net. The entire thing can be found here:
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf

The table relevant to this discussion is number 46 and the methodology of the study is discussed on the final pages.

Firstly, the "rapes" are not rapes. They are statistics of COMBINED reported and unreported rapes, attempted rapes, threats of rapes and sexual assaults that include anything from verbal assaults to fondling.

Secondly, these statistics are derived from weighted samples. The methodology is discussed at the end of the report, but as you can see just from table 46, several of the statistics Archer sites are based on samples with fewer than 10 case studies. Just looking at the stats for rape and sexual assualt, you see that the sample to get the breakdowns-for all included crimes across race- likely was fewer than 100 people.

[Archer77]

Not if you take into account how dubious those numbers are. This study has been discussed in detail for years on the net. The entire thing can be found here:
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cvus08.pdf

The table relevant to this discussion is number 46 and the methodology of the study is discussed on the final pages.

Firstly, the "rapes" are not rapes. They are statistics of COMBINED reported and unreported rapes, attempted rapes, threats of rapes and sexual assaults that include anything from verbal assaults to fondling.

Secondly, these statistics are derived from weighted samples. The methodology is discussed at the end of the report, but as you can see just from table 46, several of the statistics Archer sites are based on samples with fewer than 10 case studies. Just looking at the stats for rape and sexual assualt, you see that the sample to get the breakdowns-for all included crimes across race- likely was fewer than 100 people.

You've taken this directly from a afro-centric black power website, 24k. You ripped this off and presented it as your own just like you did with your inside source business in the other thread.  I've read it before.


111,490 white victims of sexual assault
36,620 black victims of sexual assault

But only 56 people surveyed reported sexaul assault.

So that is 36620/(36620+111490) = 14 black victims and 56-14 = 42 white victims

The table says that 100% of black victims said that black men were the perps so all 14 black women were victimized by black men.

The qualifier “Estimate is based on about 10 or fewer sample cases” is confusing to some people.

10 or fewer black women reported white perps and because they all reported black perps we must conclude that the number of white perps is zero.

56 cases is a small figure and we cannot infer the real amount of rapes committed by white men on black women.

But lets say for argument’s sake that one of those 14 black women reported a white perp.

Then (1/14)*36620 = 2615 black victims of white rapists

And 33.6% * 111490 = 37 460 white victims of black rapists

So blacks are (37460/2615) = 14.3 times more likely to rape white women than white men are to rape black women in our hypothetical scenario.

RAINN reports that only 7.5% of sexual assaults are actual rapes but that doesn't affect the ratio that we computed. Only the absolute number of victims.

As my example illustrates the ratio is at the very least maybe 14 to 1 and in all likelihood much higher. I see that blacks are 27.5 times more likely to rob whites than the other way around so this figure might be closest to the truth for rapes.

[Al Doggity]

You've taken this directly from a afro-centric black power website, 24k. You ripped this off and presented it as your own just like you did with your inside source business in the other thread.  I've read it before.


111,490 white victims of sexual assault
36,620 black victims of sexual assault

But only 56 people surveyed reported sexaul assault.

So that is 36620/(36620+111490) = 14 black victims and 56-14 = 42 white victims

The table says that 100% of black victims said that black men were the perps so all 14 black women were victimized by black men.

The qualifier “Estimate is based on about 10 or fewer sample cases” is confusing to some people.

10 or fewer black women reported white perps and because they all reported black perps we must conclude that the number of white perps is zero.

56 cases is a small figure and we cannot infer the real amount of rapes committed by white men on black women.

But lets say for argument’s sake that one of those 14 black women reported a white perp.

Then (1/14)*36620 = 2615 black victims of white rapists

And 33.6% * 111490 = 37 460 white victims of black rapists

So blacks are (37460/2615) = 14.3 times more likely to rape white women than white men are to rape black women in our hypothetical scenario.

RAINN reports that only 7.5% of sexual assaults are actual rapes but that doesn't affect the ratio that we computed. Only the absolute number of victims.

As my example illustrates the ratio is at the very least maybe 14 to 1 and in all likelihood much higher. I see that blacks are 27.5 times more likely to rob whites than the other way around so this figure might be closest to the truth for rapes.

I don't know what "inside source" business you are talking about. I linked DIRECTLY to the study. And you're one to talk about trying to pass shit off as your own... you took your last post almost word for word from this article:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/truthrevolt-org/race-riots-in-ferguson/

The stats in your post aren't even accurate. The table doesn't say that 100% of black women said perpetrators were black. The 10 or fewer
qualifier means that there were fewer than 10 cases studies available. There were asterisks in EVERY column for black women. There were not 14 black victims interviewed. There were less than 10. And as I said earlier, the report itself clarifies that these aren't all incidents of rape.

[Archer77]

I don't know what "inside source" business you are talking about. I linked DIRECTLY to the study. And you're one to talk about trying to pass shit off as your own... you took your last post almost word for word from this article:

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/truthrevolt-org/race-riots-in-ferguson/

The stats in your post aren't even accurate. The table doesn't say that 100% of black women said perpetrators were black. The 10 or fewer
qualifier means that there were fewer than 10 cases studies available. There were asterisks in EVERY column for black women. There were not 14 black victims interviewed. There were less than 10. And as I said earlier, the report itself clarifies that these aren't all incidents of rape.

Yes you took this from a black power site.  They have to round up to 100% because there are no reported cases of white on black rape. That is why in order to calculate the totals they have to round the number of white on black crimes to the nearest number which is zero.

[Soul Crusher]

Until we have that honest discussion that holder keeps talking about - nothing will ever change. 

[Archer77]

Until we have that honest discussion that holder keeps talking about - nothing will ever change. 

We have to remove the feeling of moral superiority that is used to manipulate white guilt and excuse bad behavior.

[Al Doggity]

Yes you took this from a black power site.  They have to round up to 100% because there are no reported cases of white on black rape. That is why in order to calculate the totals they have to round the number of white on black crimes to the nearest number which is zero.

I linked directly to the study. The study does not round up to 100%, it rounds to 75%  black, 25% undetermined, with  less than 10 case studies TOTAL available.  

[Al Doggity]

Until we have that honest discussion that holder keeps talking about - nothing will ever change. 

Fools can't even understand statistics. They definitely aren't about to change shit with "honesty".

[Soul Crusher]

I linked directly to the study. The study does not round up to 100%, it rounds to 75%  black, 25% undetermined, with  less than 10 case studies TOTAL available.  

The point Dr. Carson made is 100% accurate.   every single weekend all across this country blacks wage war on each other and kill dozens of themselves, others, etc and no one says a freaking word.

Two druggie oversized thugs, one who just robbed cigars and the other w a history of being a thug, walking around like gangstas get killed and Da Community melts down like no ones business.

FNG pathetic and the reason no one else gives a shit whatsoever 

[Archer77]

Fools can't even understand statistics. They definitely aren't about to change shit with "honesty".

While I will give you the point that sexual assault and rape shouldn't be combined, the overwhelming proportion of black on white crime is staggering.

[OzmO]

So.then Al, what's the actual statistic?  Black on white rape?

[Al Doggity]

The point Dr. Carson made is 100% accurate.   every single weekend all across this country blacks wage war on each other and kill dozens of themselves, others, etc and no one says a freaking word.

Two druggie oversized thugs, one who just robbed cigars and the other w a history of being a thug, walking around like gangstas get killed and Da Community melts down like no ones business.

FNG pathetic and the reason no one else gives a shit whatsoever 

Most blacks who are killed are killed by blacks. Most whites who are killed are killed by whites. Murder, in most instances, is a crime of proximity. These highly publicized police cases don't exist in a vacuum. They occur at the boiling point. 100 police killings isn't the extent of police/community tensions.

[Al Doggity]

So.then Al, what's the actual statistic?  Black on white rape?

Beats me.  The one Archer cited is definitely not accurate.

[Archer77]

Most blacks who are killed are killed by blacks. Most whites who are killed are killed by whites. Murder, in most instances, is a crime of proximity. s.

This is true, however the rate of interracial crime committed by blacks against whites is disproportionately high.  And if they are as you claim, crimes of proximity, this would indicate that black criminals are seeking out white victims.

Beats me.  The one Archer cited is definitely not accurate.

If other crime stats are indicative of anything it is still disproportionately high.

[Soul Crusher]

Most blacks who are killed are killed by blacks. Most whites who are killed are killed by whites. Murder, in most instances, is a crime of proximity. These highly publicized police cases don't exist in a vacuum. They occur at the boiling point. 100 police killings isn't the extent of police/community tensions.

Guess what - the amount of time you come into cops and law enforcement if you go to work every day, go to the gym afterwards, your family and home after that, and if you conduct yourself like a decent human being and not a thug on drugs with your pants around your ass dragging your lazy self across the middle of the street w a ghetto slide is next no nil. 

I have less and less sympathy whatsoever for these constant complainers who want it both ways. 

[Archer77]

The FBI obscures the data by first lumping hispanics and whites together and secondly by not providing the race of the offender.  In 1988 Dr. William Wilbanks looked through the data and found there were 9406 black on white rapes and fewer than ten cases of white on black.  His findings seem to validate the numbers.

[Al Doggity]

Guess what - the amount of time you come into cops and law enforcement if you go to work every day, go to the gym afterwards, your family and home after that, and if you conduct yourself like a decent human being and not a thug on drugs with your pants around your ass dragging your lazy self across the middle of the street w a ghetto slide is next no nil. 

Not true at all. Black, college educated male in early 30s living in NYC with solidly middle/upper middle class income, absolutely no criminal record. Have been stopped and frisked 11 times since 2009. All in different parts of the city- midtown, Harlem , UES, Billyburg . Yes, if you are white, it is easy to have next to nil contact with cops.

[Al Doggity]

The FBI obscures the data by first lumping hispanics and whites together and secondly by not providing the race of the offender.  In 1988 Dr. William Wilbanks looked through the data and found there were 9406 black on white rapes and fewer than ten cases of white on black.  His findings seem to validate the numbers.

Please post link to study.