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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2014, 04:13:45 PM »
President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday.

“[The Department of Defense] violated section 8111 because it did not notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer,” the GAO report said. “In addition, because DOD used appropriated funds to carry out the transfer when no money was available for that purpose, DOD violated the Antideficiency Act. The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal agencies from incurring obligations exceeding an amount available in an appropriation.”

The GAO rejected the idea that the action was legal and sidestepped the Obama team’s suggestion that the law is unconstitutional.

“It is not our role or our practice to determine the constitutionality of duly enacted statutes,” the report says. “In our view, where legislation has been passed by Congress and signed by the President, thereby satisfying the bicameralism and presentment requirements in the Constitution, that legislation is entitled to a heavy presumption in favor of constitutionality.”




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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #2 on: August 21, 2014, 05:13:13 PM »
Are you aware that the report you are referring to does not have the statement that "President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday."

The report doesn't mention Obama at all.  It mentions the DOD.

I wonder why the National Review chose to name Obama in their headline and not the DOD as referenced in the report

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #3 on: August 21, 2014, 05:41:13 PM »
Yeah 33!

Didn't you know that it's not Obama's fault when he approves the operation and shit goes wrong?

When he approves and it goes right, like whacking Osama, then it's totally to his credit.

How could you not know this?

How dare you hold Obama accountable for the DoD.  It's not like he's Commander in...oh wait, lol.



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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #4 on: August 21, 2014, 05:58:55 PM »
Also, in b4 240 starts crying nonsense about impeachment.


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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2014, 06:05:47 PM »
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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2014, 06:15:15 PM »
Yeah 33!

Didn't you know that it's not Obama's fault when he approves the operation and shit goes wrong?

When he approves and it goes right, like whacking Osama, then it's totally to his credit.

How could you not know this?

How dare you hold Obama accountable for the DoD.  It's not like he's Commander in...oh wait, lol.




I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal.  But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..

That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber


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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2014, 06:28:38 PM »
I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal.  But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..

That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber





Yeah, the report does say DoD!

OMG...the entire DoD must be at fault.  Fucking engineers that built the equipment the special forces used, computer programmers, goddamn janitors.

Yep, we should list every fucking person in DoD

Let's not focus on leadership.

Good job dumbfuck, more of your stellar liberal reasoning.  ::)


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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2014, 06:29:44 PM »
Beat me to it. Apparently all government agencies just run amok under Obama, and he has know idea what those fuckers are doing.
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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2014, 06:32:25 PM »
Worship your master libs.


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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2014, 06:33:33 PM »
Beat me to it. Apparently all government agencies just run amok under Obama, and he has know idea what those fuckers are doing.



Nope, remember the rules.  When they get it right, it's all Obama.

Only when shit goes wrong is it large bureaucracy.


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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2014, 06:42:22 PM »


Yeah, the report does say DoD!

OMG...the entire DoD must be at fault.  Fucking engineers that built the equipment the special forces used, computer programmers, goddamn janitors.

Yep, we should list every fucking person in DoD

Let's not focus on leadership.

Good job dumbfuck, more of your stellar liberal reasoning.  ::)



does the report say Obama broke the law

yes or no ?

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2014, 06:44:08 PM »


Nope, remember the rules.  When they get it right, it's all Obama.

Only when shit goes wrong is it large bureaucracy.



great job with the reading comprehension Skippy

I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal.  But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..

That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber



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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 06:48:45 PM »
does the report say Obama broke the law

yes or no ?



Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.

We've established that.

Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.

Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.


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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #14 on: August 21, 2014, 07:08:42 PM »


Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.

We've established that.

Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.

Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.



it's not logic dipshit

it's merely a statement of fact

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2014, 07:36:39 PM »
it's not logic dipshit

it's merely a statement of fact



Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.

We've established that.

Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.

Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.




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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2014, 07:37:14 PM »
If it weren't for the news media, Obama would have no clue as to what's going on in his administration. From his own mouth:



Beat me to it. Apparently all government agencies just run amok under Obama, and he has know idea what those fuckers are doing.

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2014, 07:59:14 PM »
Worship your master libs.



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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2014, 10:49:19 PM »


Yep, it doesn't say Obama and says DoD.

We've established that.

Like I said, great logic dumbfuck.

Keep it up, you must make liberals so proud, lol.





I never Obama was not also culpable but the report says DOD. That is the fact of the matter.
It certainly appears that the administration had to sign off on it and their attorney's likely told them it was legal.  But fuck, let's just ignore all of that and let's just pretend that the entire thing was Obama's idea, he personally negotiated it, etc..

That's how we do it here in the GB.com right wing echo chamber



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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2014, 11:48:49 PM »
Obama took credit for it and said he would do it again remember?

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2014, 04:40:56 AM »
Obama took credit for it and said he would do it again remember?

Strawboy selectively forgot that little tid bit.

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2014, 04:45:05 AM »
Strawboy selectively forgot that little tid bit.

no he didn't - jhe is just spinning for his god king

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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2014, 06:16:03 AM »
President Obama violated a “clear and unambiguous” law when he released five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for Army Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl, the Government Accountability Office reported Thursday.

“[The Department of Defense] violated section 8111 because it did not notify the relevant congressional committees at least 30 days in advance of the transfer,” the GAO report said. “In addition, because DOD used appropriated funds to carry out the transfer when no money was available for that purpose, DOD violated the Antideficiency Act. The Antideficiency Act prohibits federal agencies from incurring obligations exceeding an amount available in an appropriation.”

The GAO rejected the idea that the action was legal and sidestepped the Obama team’s suggestion that the law is unconstitutional.

“It is not our role or our practice to determine the constitutionality of duly enacted statutes,” the report says. “In our view, where legislation has been passed by Congress and signed by the President, thereby satisfying the bicameralism and presentment requirements in the Constitution, that legislation is entitled to a heavy presumption in favor of constitutionality.”




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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2014, 06:17:55 AM »


Obama did the right thing.  I support him fully on getting Bowe back.....we leave no one behind


Being left behind and walking off post are 2 different things there airsoft boy
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Re: FEDS: Obama broke the law w Bergdahl swap
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2014, 08:10:08 AM »
Also, in b4 240 starts crying nonsense about impeachment.



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