Random AnabolicHalo ramblings

[dyslexic]

Take the time to read it.

Mike was a friend of mine.

What he said in the end he was not "iffy" about.

He told me that the young guys today have no clue about what they are going to face in their 40's and 50's ~ if they make it that far.

Some of you guys here are young. You intelligent ones think about tomorrow. The rest of you don't. We call that "denial" ~ it's your choice.

http://www.getbig.com/iview/matarazzo041221.htm

[Cutlet767]

some people have a really hard time with loosing all muscles...i stoped jucing AND training after being on  and off  8-9years. Trained the whole tkme and hsd only 3months of stuff so i was big aöö the time...but stoped sirh everything and shrunk toca normal person and i didnt care. Sure i mlssed to be big but was not depressed or anything...but started again after 6 years from the gym and fuck it feels good to be big again  

But most likely you didn't care when you stopped or had other priorities. Not the case for the vast majority of guys who juice who build their entire image around the muscle gained with gear and are massively insecure without it, and use it to define their social standing.

[Cutlet767]

Take the time to read it.

Mike was a friend of mine.

What he said in the end he was not "iffy" about.

He told me that the young guys today have no clue about what they are going to face in their 40's and 50's ~ if they make it that far.

Some of you guys here are young. You intelligent ones think about tomorrow. The rest of you don't. We call that "denial" ~ it's your choice.

http://www.getbig.com/iview/matarazzo041221.htm

Those who have everything mapped out as I outlined on the previous page will not have to worry about their 40s and 50s because they will have made the commitment and necessary fiancial and social planning around possible life events and scenarios through those decades (20s, 30s, 40s, and 50s. 60s... who cares, you're a relic by then) as well as what to expect from coming off the gear to deal with those coming decades. Obviously coming off cold turkey in your 50s will probably suck more, but you prepare yourself mentally for this at least to some degree by following the protocol of building up, and then coming off cold turkey for  a year, as soon as you decide to make the life long committment to using gear.

if you look at every single person who juices for whatever reason, you'll find that what I've said in this thread most probably applies to every single one of them without much exception... Look at your friends. People you know etc.

[Kim Jong Bob]

You are both wrong.

If you don't give a shit about what happens when you go off, then you will never experience any kind of depression that is related to how the body looks.

Foundation?
Are you guys fucking serious, when you come off drugs the body will get rid of 90% of what have been steroid gains, in the shortest amount of time.
Whatever is kept would have been there naturally, give or take 10-20%.

Not a ad idea to keep lifting?

Fuck, Sherlock Holmes is real.

excellent post

[Complex Carbs]

cruising is the best way to refresh the receptors without losing too much gains
yes i do believe in the receptors stuff

going off is catastrophical
PCT meds will make you feel terrible + sky high estrogen levels
you litteraly shrink while getting fat 

i suggest cruising on 250mg of test + some peptides experimentation

HAHA

"refreshing receptors"

HAHA, you retarded monkey, where did you pick that up?

"sky high estrogen levels"?
Some have close to zero estrogen after coming off, hope this helps, semen sucker.

So you "suggest" "some" peptides experimentation.

What makes you an, errr, "authority" on anything training related?

HAHA, fuck right off mate.

[Cutlet767]

Take the time to read it.

Mike was a friend of mine.

What he said in the end he was not "iffy" about.

He told me that the young guys today have no clue about what they are going to face in their 40's and 50's ~ if they make it that far.

Some of you guys here are young. You intelligent ones think about tomorrow. The rest of you don't. We call that "denial" ~ it's your choice.

http://www.getbig.com/iview/matarazzo041221.htm

When you think about it, some guys have so little going for them socially and are so hopelessly incapable of fixing their insecurities, committing to using gear is probably a good idea. Most discover this in their late 20s. After going through their early adult lives with frustrated efforts. The more astute ones understand it as early as their late teens.

[SuperTed]

Sometimes I wonder how guys like Dillett, Prince, Cormier etc feel now that they've lost all their size.
Must really suck having to go from having such an incredible build where everyone is in awe and gives you second looks to just looking like your average bum.
Pretty sure they must be suffering (or suffered) some strong depression.

[Cutlet767]

Sometimes I wonder how guys like Dillett, Prince, Cormier etc feel now that they've lost all their size.
Must really suck having to go from having such an incredible build where everyone is in awe and gives you second looks to just looking like your average bum.
Pretty sure they must be suffering (or suffered) some strong depression.

Cormier is still big. The rest are still running businesses and living off their past accolades during their competitive days. Dillett is running the second biggest fitness federation in the industry (the WBFF). Like I said, those who are about something more than their physiques won't suffer quite as much depression coming off as those that don't. They won't even care, and they'll still be making a ton of money. Dillet literally doesn't care. He has a family, kids, and strong business associates who think far beyond who has bigger arms than who. He's risen above his past self.

I already stated in this thread that these guys are exempt.

Levrone has a kid who he loves and lives for. How could he be depressed? It's largely because of the kid that he came off the drugs. Besides that, he still does those half finished "transformations", which is testament to the point I made that they don't really care anymore about lifting after a while. But, he does still stay in shape, because he has incredible genetics, far beyond those of your average juicer or Olympia contender.

[gracie bjj]

Sometimes I wonder how guys like Dillett, Prince, Cormier etc feel now that they've lost all their size.
Must really suck having to go from having such an incredible build where everyone is in awe and gives you second looks to just looking like your average bum.
Pretty sure they must be suffering (or suffered) some strong depression.

man u know thats gotta be killing them inside,they went from being the king of the gym,beach,movies,diner ect,basiclly anywhere they went they stole the show and now they r nothing.im sure severe depression has been in their lives if not still controlling their lives,no way around the depression,none

[Complex Carbs]

I swear the fuck I predicted this thread like 10 days ago.

Next on my list of prediction,

"I asked baby mama if I should go clean, and she said she don't care."
"Will fly bitches at the club want to get with me, if I don't have huge muscles."
"Fly bitches at clubs are dumb and only like guys with big muscles. "

If you want I can create these threads for you, give you credit, even emulate your posting style as I think I have it figured out.

It'll give you more gym time now that your going natty.

Fuck off, fattie, go for a jog, you morbidly obese butterfaced homo.

Here is a prediction, if you do that every day, you will become less of a fat mess, thus, less repulsive and might get in touch with a girl, then you will not be sitting on a computer and trying to predict threads.

You are a loser to the very core.

Superted, i think folks like Dillet are the sane ones and they do not give a shit about the lost size.
The others are on some kidney donation waiting lists or in coffins.

[Complex Carbs]

Doesn't the body stop reacting to drugs in a positive way after a certain time then you have to keep upping the dose? That's why the guys in the 70's and early 80's used them for a contest then were clean the rest of the year. It seems according to this board that guys almost use them year round.

So you believe what the 80s guys are telling you, or what you have heard as gossip?

You think steroids stop working if you take them for too long?

Are you a brain amputee?

[Natural Man]

When you think about it, some guys have so little going for them socially and are so hopelessly incapable of fixing their insecurities, committing to using gear is probably a good idea. Most discover this in their late 20s. After going through their early adult lives with frustrated efforts. The more astute ones understand it as early as their late teens.

I d say it all depend of who advise them on life. I d bet most of them have poor or no father figure. Any serious parent, father would see his kid is on something when looking at him and do some research before coming to the conclusion his son is full of drugs. A father figure who really cares about the survival of his offspring would tell him to not go that route in the first place or stop it. I guess that just as you said previously, many people who surround these morons simply dont really care about them enough to tell them the truth.

[Natural Man]

Sometimes I wonder how guys like Dillett, Prince, Cormier etc feel now that they've lost all their size.
Must really suck having to go from having such an incredible build where everyone is in awe and gives you second looks to just looking like your average bum.
Pretty sure they must be suffering (or suffered) some strong depression.

it's easier to go through depression if you have a job, a family, kids, other things in life to focus on and develop which keep giving a meaning to your life. Now if you have nothing else...or if people leave you cause you re not the artificially ''invincible'' rock you were...

Most of the guys you cited became personal trainers and probably have been surrounded or advised by genuinely caring loved ones. The entourage means a lot.

[Cutlet767]

I d say it all depend of who advise them on life. I d bet most of them have poor or no father figure. Any serious parent, father would see his kid is on something when looking at him and do some research before coming to the conclusion his son is full of drugs. A father figure who really cares about the survival of his offspring would tell him to not go that route in the first place or stop it. I guess that just as you said previously, many people who surround these morons simply dont really care about them enough to tell them the truth.

The issue is, does it really matter to these kids what their mother or father says? They still have to live their lives. The kid's mother won't help him score women, or behave less awkwardly, or get over the love of his life and obsession who left him for one reason or the other in an emotionally broken and state feeling inadequate and insecure about himself.

This shit happens. Pertaining to the last point.. that's why the term "breakups create bodybuilders" was coined

[Complex Carbs]

You don't know? Shame on you..

Just kidding..but the truth is that the argument which you are ready to use goes like this: THERE IS NONE SCIENTIFIC STUDY WHICH PROVES THAT STEROIDS ARE HARMFUL...Am I right? Lets go little bit further with my argument, which goes like this: AND THERE IS NO STUDY WHICH PROVES THEY'RE NOT HARM YOUR SYSTEM EITHER. Truth is, that there is no study, not either way, because no one has done it. So what next? As an ridiculous asshole, you may pull the card which point out that steroids are used as medicine, and I could shot that stupidity down just pointing out, that the dosage which BB:ers use is up to 100 000 times more than they use as medicine. Instead of throwing stupid arguments just count how many wrestlers, bodybuilders, strong man etc. has either dead or lost their kidneys etc. What you do not know is the fact, that number of dead or sick anonym gym rats is thousands times more. They just don't end in the news. And then the most fun part of this: ONLY HISTORY WILL TELL HOW YOU DID. Maybe you will continue jerking off even you are 100 years old, or on the other hand, maybe you will die in few month from now. Only history will prove what happen. So are you sure that steroids doesn't harm your kidneys or liver? No one knows it for sure  

There are studies, brosky.

What do you think why the packaging of orals warns of liver toxicity?

The side effects and associated illnesses are well known.

It is no mystery what androgen overdoses cause.

[Cutlet767]

it's easier to go through depression if you have a job, a family, kids, other things in life to focus on and develop which keep giving a meaning to your life. Now if you have nothing else...or if people leave you cause you re not the artificially ''invincible'' rock you were...

Most of the guys you cited became personal trainers and probably have been surrounded or advised by genuinely caring loved ones. The entourage means a lot.

It means a great deal yeah. Without these people, it's quite literally living an empty existence. Especially if you have no parents alive as some of these guys don't.

I honestly don't see why guys abuse orals to be honest... what's wrong with injectables alone?

[Complex Carbs]

First off, try to understand this post is not an exaggeration. And, no one will be able to refute what I'm about to say successfully.

Rest assured, if you come off, you might as well chop your balls off. Even if you are "ok" when you come off, you will quit lifting. You will be depressed. Dick probably wont work for good many months (8 months not uncommon). You'll lose all your gains slowly, and you will be so depressed, you may actually contemplate suicide AND follow through with it. Everyone will react and treat you with considerably less respect than before. You will forever be looked at as a "baloon baby", "roider" even more so when you lose your gains than when you were bigger. And this is where you will realize you actually have NO FRIENDS, and people were only with you because you were big. If you have a girlfriend, I imagine she will leave you too... you don't need me to explain to you why this will happen.

Also good luck attracting women when you're off.. LOL. You will learn the hard way. Not only will you be considerably worse in bed (but that doesn't matter cuz you wont even make it that far), you will lose all that confidence to get girls since you would have lost all your gains.

Good luck bro. Believe you me, NONE of the above is exaggerated. I guarantee no one here will disagree with me.

When you are on, you are ON. The minute you make any gains from gear, you are ON hooked in for life. It's literally better to be dead than to go off since the quality of life when off compared to on will be epically worse. If there's no quality to your life, then, you have no life. Pretty simple, really. Unless you have a kid that you live for that is.

If people actually looked at what happens on paper when they go off... many won't even go on to begin with. Those who do, will understand it is a life-long commitment. Why do you think so many compete to give their lives some sort of "meaning" and "goal" they are shooting for. Lol, you think it's not just because of that gear they are all shooting? Get real. Same deal with naturals to be fair, except naturals are actually building legitimate muscle, whereas gear users are just building fabricated tissue that disappears as soon as they're done injecting for some reason even though that bullshit they preach about "eating clean" and "training religiously and intensely" is still there. But without the key component, you come to realise you might as well be trying to take down the Great Wall of China with a toothpick.:

Test levels from 4000+ down to sub 100. You decide on how incredibly shitty that must feel.

Speak for yourself, "duchaine"

[SuperTed]

Superted, i think folks like Dillet are the sane ones and they do not give a shit about the lost size.
The others are on some kidney donation waiting lists or in coffins.

Even for a sane individual it would still be pretty tough to take. As gracie bjj said, you are going from being the centre of attention wherever you go to just a regular person who nobody gives a fuck about.
I consider myself fairly sane (I hope ) but know that I would struggle mentally if I was in their position.
It's like going from Superman to Clark Kent knowing that you are never going to transform back.

[gracie bjj]

i agree about the support system a person has after bodybuilding has ended,if the person has a loving family that doesnt care what they look like and tells them that will always love them if they have 10 inch arms or 20 inch arms,thats very very important on how that persons gonna deal with the life style change.without good support that person can end up very mentally bad off

[Ronnie Rep]

i agree about the support system a person has after bodybuilding has ended,if the person has a loving family that doesnt care what they look like and tells them that will always love them if they have 10 inch arms or 20 inch arms,thats very very important on how that persons gonna deal with the life style change.without good support that person can end up very mentally bad off

True, this is why Halo is doomed.

[BigRo]

Even for a sane individual it would still be pretty tough to take. As gracie bjj said, you are going from being the centre of attention wherever you go to just a regular person who nobody gives a fuck about.
I consider myself fairly sane (I hope ) but know that I would struggle mentally if I was in their position.
It's like going from Superman to Clark Kent knowing that you are never going to transform back.

unless you become a spiritual superman which would far exceed the joys of a muscular body.

[Sophus]

Foundation meaning once you pack on muscle it's going to be hard to lose it overnite. If your just steroids well of course your gonna lose it all. The guys that make good gains on gear have always been the guys that were already fairly big naturally. If your genetics suck for bodybuilding they suck and there's nothing you can do about it unless you want to be a walking pharmacy.

Having a naturally fast metabolism and thereby relatively small/slow gains in musclesize as natural athlete seems to be great for general drugresponse to anabolic steroids

GH seems to work the same for all though, here its all about quality of product and dosages

Professional bodybuilding is all about drugresponse and physical/mental ability to handle sides over a long period of abuse

[no one]

what is this bullshit abt base and gains retention.

one has nothing to do with the other. more fucking broscience.

the only time base plays a factor in differentiating the role of effecacy in anabolics administration between two different trainers, one with a base, one without, is that the trainer who has a base will might make better gains more immediately given the strength of tendons ligaments and connective tissue that the first time user with no base doesnt have.

that's it. what the fuck your base has to to with what you retain is beyond me. both will lose any gains manifested from the administration of anabolics. both will return to whatever base line they started from.  

to think 'base' has anything to do w retention is stupidity.  

Jesus Christ.

[gracie bjj]

what is this bullshit abt base and gains retention.

one has nothing to do with the other. more fucking broscience.

the only time base plays a factor in differentiating the role of effecacy in anabolics administration between two different trainers, one with a base, one without, is that the trainer who has a base will might make better gains more immediately given the strength of tendons ligaments and connective tissue that the first time user with no base doesnt have.

that's it. what the fuck your base has to to with what you retain is beyond me. both will lose any gains manifested from the administration of anabolics. both will return to whatever base line they started from.  

to think 'base' has anything to do w retention is stupidity.  

Jesus Christ.

i agree, they will just shrink down to what they had before the cycle.a guy with a more solid foundation will just be bigger because he was bigger to begin with when the cycle was started,the little guy will shrink back down to being little again cause he never developed a base.

[El Diablo Blanco]

what is this bullshit abt base and gains retention.

one has nothing to do with the other. more fucking broscience.

the only time base plays a factor in differentiating the role of effecacy in anabolics administration between two different trainers, one with a base, one without, is that the trainer who has a base will might make better gains more immediately given the strength of tendons ligaments and connective tissue that the first time user with no base doesnt have.

that's it. what the fuck your base has to to with what you retain is beyond me. both will lose any gains manifested from the administration of anabolics. both will return to whatever base line they started from.  

to think 'base' has anything to do w retention is stupidity.  

Jesus Christ.

Fat people who get skinny tend to have an oversized head.