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02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« on: February 10, 2006, 09:57:52 AM »
Craig Titus and his wife, Kelly Ryan, have been charged with murder in the death of their personal assistant. They were arrested in Massachusetts more than a week after the body of Melissa James was found in the trunk of Ryan's burning car.

Now, court documents indicate that James may have initially been attacked with a taser gun the night before her body was discovered.

In court documents obtained by News 3, both Titus and Ryan admitted to friends that they used a taser gun on Melissa James. A taser gun transmits 50,000 volts, incapacitating its target.

The couple told police the gun was given to them by a friend and according to it's manufacturer, Taser International, the gun was discharged six times on December 13 between 2:10 and 2:12 PM.

During that time both Titus and Ryan admit that James was in their home and remnants left behind after the taser fired, called taser dots, were also found inside.

Prosecutors say this evidence, along with the fact the pair led authorities on a manhunt shortly after they were listed as murder suspects, is proof enough they should be held behind bars and denied bail.

Titus is scheduled for a bail hearing Friday. Both he and his wife are facing a charge of first degree murder. The defense plans to ask for a reasonable bail setting. They're expected to argue that Titus poses no danger to the community and is not a flight risk.




http://www.kvbc.com/Global/story.asp?S=4484394

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2006, 11:07:13 AM »
How does Taser International know how many times & what time the taser was discharged? I zapped myself once  with a stun-gun(when I was I cop, required) & I can tell you ,it is not fun, makes your joints esp the elbows & knees hurt like a MF'er afterwards. But I was unaware that it had a tracking device in it.Once was enough, doing it 6 times sounds like pure rage.

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2006, 11:23:31 AM »
I think a Taser gun is different from a stun gun. If they are loaded with 6 shots and there are none left.  Plus, it may have being electronic some sort of memory chip inside.  And I wonder why it took so many.  Theonly thing I can think of is that they must have missed a few times.

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2006, 11:25:53 AM »
I think a Taser gun is different from a stun gun. If they are loaded with 6 shots and there are none left.  Plus, it may have being electronic some sort of memory chip inside.  And I wonder why it took so many.  Theonly thing I can think of is that they must have missed a few times.

Hummmm, moving target.... interesting :-X
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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2006, 03:37:38 PM »
Taser guns shoot probes, usually two. The one I had shot two little probes up to about 5 metres with around 30,000 volts. Enough to incapacitate the Mrs.  ;D

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2006, 05:37:42 PM »


I have not seen anything that says that Titus & Ryan admitted to tasing Melissa James anywhere.  The court documents said that a taser gun was fired six times - I don't think they even found a tazer gun at Craig & Kelly's house???


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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2006, 06:28:28 PM »
Ah Ron, please try and keep up with the Facts of the case bro, you're slippin'.

Craig Titus
Kelly Ryan

The Las Vegas bodybuilding couple accused of murder were in court Friday for a bail hearing but the judge decided to set aside a bail decision until after a preliminary hearing.
"Craig Titus and his wife, Kelly Ryan are charged with murdering their personal assistant, Melissa James. 
James' burned body was found in the back of Kelly Rryan's car in December.  Meanwhile prosecutors have revealed more information about the case. They say tests on a taser the couple allegedly used during the murder does show the device was used the day James was killed."


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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2006, 06:46:54 PM »
Doh!

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2006, 11:25:31 PM »
In court documents obtained by News 3, both Titus and Ryan admitted to friends that they used a taser gun on Melissa James. A taser gun transmits 50,000 volts, incapacitating its target.
The couple told police the gun was given to them by a friend and according to it's manufacturer, Taser International, the gun was discharged six times on December 13 between 2:10 and 2:12 PM.

A WOMAN OF SMALL BODY WEIGHT, TASERED SIX TIMES EACH WITH 50,000 VOLTS OF ELECTRICITY IN THE SPAN OF 2 MINUTES......

I can't even write what I was going to write I am so fucking pissed

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2006, 04:51:10 AM »
does every home in vegas have a taser?

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2006, 05:33:03 AM »
Ah Ron, please try and keep up with the Facts of the case bro, you're slippin'.

Ron has been doing a good job following the case, but he obviously does not have THESE court documents.

In court documents obtained by News 3, both Titus and Ryan admitted to friends that they used a taser gun on Melissa James.
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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2006, 10:28:15 AM »
I would like to see those court documents.

Sources have said that there was no taser gun found in the house.

Sources have said that there is no proof from the proesuctors that Melissa was tasered, and the detectives admit that.

Sources have said that Titus & Ryan did not say to anyone that they tasered Melissa.

Sources have said that the paper got it from the motion documents, which the prosecuters theories this.

What they did say is that the taser gun they found was used six times - but they don't know who used the taser gun.

I will try to find out more - and I am just being objective on this - but given the nature of that statement - would you not give some proof from the court documents instead of just declaring a statement like that.

But if yo umust know, and many people know this - a lot of these things coming out - I have known for weeks. 

 


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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2006, 10:40:53 AM »
sources are just that, sources, some truth some BS,,,,post it when its fact not "sources say".  It takes away credibility

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2006, 12:40:57 PM »

What they did say is that the taser gun they found was used six times - but they don't know who used the taser gun.

Ron, where did they find this taser?
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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2006, 12:42:01 PM »
Now, court documents indicate that James may have initially been attacked with a taser gun the night before her body was discovered.

In court documents obtained by News 3, both Titus and Ryan admitted to friends that they used a taser gun on Melissa James. A taser gun transmits 50,000 volts, incapacitating its target.
The couple told police the gun was given to them by a friend and according to it’s manufacturer, Taser International, the gun was discharged six times on December 13 between 2:10 and 2:12 PM.

During that time both Titus and Ryan admit that James was in their home and remnants left behind after the taser fired, called taser dots, were also found inside.

Is this better? :-\

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2006, 01:28:14 PM »
ahahahahah...Ron owned by Shawn...doh! :D

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2006, 01:38:05 PM »
I'll just wait until the the actual "Trial" to speculate

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2006, 01:43:52 PM »

Once again, Shawn - is it in a court document - or is it a police report that a detective said that a friend said that Titus & Ryan admitted that. If that was true - it would of been in the initial police report - because allegedly they didn't speak to 'friends' after they left Nevada.

A detective can say that a friend said that. Now - given the timeline - and the official police report that I have on this site - when did they admit this?

Even the detective in court on Friday said that they are not even sure Melissa was tasered.  Onlt that the gun was discharged between the two times.

Lets wait for the evidence on this before you render judgement.

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2006, 03:11:03 PM »
So then did they use the stun gun as a torture device?

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2006, 04:42:09 PM »
ok ron call for an evidence suppression hearing

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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2006, 06:42:18 PM »
Grissom.....I mean Ron, I believe we are ALL waiting for the evidence, that being said, the initial Police Report Never contains ALL the Facts of the case.
Did you miss the fact that BEFORE Craig & Kelly left Las Vegas for Boston, they not only spoke to Mandy, where in Kelly blurted out the fact that Melissa was dead and the details would cause her nightmares, prior to Mandy and her man telling the police their side.
As well, your boy Anthony Gross, where upon 13 cells phone calls were made, certainly there was some conversation as to the facts of the case discussed much of which none of us will know until the trial but some of which has clearly came out due to the residue from the Taser gun being found at the same time Craig & Kelly were home.
It doesn't take a Rocket Scientist to know the Dog didn't fire off the shots!
We are all waiting for more details................. .....
The News Reports and Court Documents so far seem to be pretty accurate sad to say or they would have gotten Bail. :-\
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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2006, 09:19:25 PM »
grissom........hahahahah ahaaaaaaaa ;D
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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2006, 09:25:56 PM »
Mandy told me they changed their story.  First there was an accident, then she OD'd. 

Kelly changed it then Craig told her to "drop it".


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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2006, 12:22:01 AM »
http://www.getbig.com/news/2006-01/060210titus.htm



No bail for Craig Titus or Kelly Ryan today, the judge said. The defense team was hoping that coming into this courtroom today, Friday February 10th, that they would come out with bail for the two. It did not happen. While the judge did not completely rule out bail coming up in the next court appearance, on March 29th, it does mean that Craig & Kelly are in jail, perhaps in maximum security, in solitary confinement, for at least another month and a half. And in the courtroom - the victim's mother - Maura James - who flew in from New Jersey. Also in the courtroom - Anthony Gross. . There also was no plea given today at the court either. That will be reserved for another date.

Here, from a friend, is a version of what happened in the court room today.

At 1 o'clock, the hour at which the bail hearing was supposed to commence, Craig and Kelly sat shackled and silent on opposite ends of a small table. There was nobody between them. No lawyers, no detectives, no bailiffs, no judge, no nothing. Moments earlier Kelly had been escorted into Judge Bonaventure's courtroom, wearing the anticipated blue jumpsuit of Clark County Detention Center prisoners, and exhibiting her model's hair, which -- still lambent and bountiful and a bit wavy -- doesn't look like's its been sullied by the rigors of prison life at all; and at the sight of his wife, Craig broke down. Tears fell, and he sobbed. He had arrived first, taken his seat just a short jab away from the prosecutor's table, and remained quiet and ineffable until he saw Kelly, who returned his display of emotion with a look of pure, unadulterated affection. It was the last time the couple would explicitly communicate during the hearing, which spread itself over the next two hours.

After settling some preliminary matters, prosecutor Robert Daskas proposed to the judge that bail, at any price, is just not applicable to the defendants in this case, for not only are they charged with murder (the only offense in Nevada for which a suspect can be held without bail), but they are also high risks for flight, and one of them, Craig, has a very dubious character. All reasons, Daskas said, he would provide evidence for today.

And thus, with his shaky articulation and incessant feet-shuffling, Daskas recapitulated all the evidence that is already well known by diligent followers of the case: Melissa's body torched in the back of Kelly's Jag; videos of Kelly buying lighter fluid and of Craig waiting outside Wal-Mart for her, with Melissa already in the trunk; traces of morphine in Melissa's body at the time of her death; signs on her body, from the coroner's photographs, of partial mummification and strangling.



Also, a witness saying that, shortly after the day Melissa was burned, Titus gave him (or her) a gym bag containing a Taser gun, which experts can prove was shot in the Titus-Ryan household six times on December 13, between 2:10 and 2:12 p.m; and culpable statements given to LVMPD and FBI detectives by Titus and Ryan. However; what Daskas did say that was not common knowledge was that the prosecution has ascribed a motive to Titus and Ryan: embezzlement.

Daskas said the couple claims Melissa stole from them, and that in their minds was reason enough to murder her. Though proffered with an inept and infirm delivery, Daskas made a substantial case. That is, he let the evidence--hard and mountainous-speak for itself.

At one point Schonfeld had interjected and reminded the court of the motion he had filed the day before (at 9;30 a.m) to suppress the statements given by Craig and Kelly in Massachusetts, as they were recorded surreptitiously--which is a violation of state law and thus renders them inadmissible evidence in the court of law. Both the judge and Daskas said they never received the motion.

Daskas then described why the state believes Titus and Ryan are serious flight risks. He said that, according to at least five witnesses, Craig verbalized his intentions of fleeing to a country with a non-extradition policy--either Greece or Mexico. He said that Craig and Kelly tried to sell their house(s), and that they did not sleep in their own house again after the cops questioned them on the morning of Dec. 14. He said that the couple stopped using their cell phones, and instead purchased pre-paid phones so that their numbers would not be traced. And, Daskas said, the couple had traded in their truck, roared some 3,000 miles across the country with some $8,000 stashed away, refusing to sleep in motels due to the fear of recognition, and thus any notion that they were just vacationing is altogether "laughable."

"No," he said, "They were trying to escape the country because they knew they were going to be held in connection with the murder of Melissa James."



Kelly, who had been watching Daskas speak with the attentive eyes of a schoolchild, let out an audible sigh when he said "murder of Melissa James." And she would continue to sigh, or gulp, or sink into her chair a bit any time "Melissa' came up.

For his last point, Daskas said Titus' character needed to be questioned in this matter. He said Titus -- the man who failed to answer Maura James' frantic phone calls after her daughter did not arrive on the flight for which she had been scheduled, the man who finally called Melissa's mother back the Saturday after the incident and told her it wasn't Melissa's body that had been in the trunk, and the man who went on to tell Maura that her daughter faked her own death to assume a new identity (and, as proof, his friend had actually talked to Melissa since the incident) -- is not worthy of bail.

Tim Pitaro, little humble man with a grandiose and erudite manner of speaking in court, and a reputation for being a zany but efficacious defense attorney, then took the floor to speak on the behalf of his client, Kelly Ryan.

Pitaro gave Judge Bonaventure and the rest of the courtroom a 30-minute lesson on the fundamental principle of bail -- invoking the constitution, the country's forefathers, a hundred precedent cases, and many more reasons why Kelly should be granted a reasonable bail price right then and there. And while he didn't directly refute any of the evidence proffered by Daskas, he did exploit the prosecutor's shortcomings -- and I'm speaking of two in specific: a cause of death has still not been determined, for there has been no autopsy report; and the capriciousness of theories being thrown around.

Nobody knows anything for sure, said Pitaro, a short and rotund old man with a charming accent from back east, so the prosecution is just trying to throw everything out there. It's all just sound and fury.



Schonfeld, the sharpest lawyer in the courtroom today, adopted Pitaro's statements, and then tried to convince the judge Craig and Kelly had no intentions of fleeing. He said the hard evidence reflects this. For example: the couple stopped in Massachusetts to get an oil change, which would have been futile if they indeed planned on going to Greece, and just as worthless if they were going to Mexico (for why would they travel 3,000 miles east when they could have just headed a short way south, to Tijuana); at the oil lube station they were described by witnesses as relaxed, as talkative and friendly, and the manager even reported that Craig and he exchanged phone numbers (with Craig saying, 'Whenever you come to Vegas, call me up) and Kelly taught an employee a few dance moves; also at that same oil lube station a marked state trooper was getting work done on his car, but neither Craig nor Kelly appeared worried; and further, Kelly's passport was found in their home in Las Vegas -- not a sign of a person anxious to leave American soil. In addition, Schonfeld mentioned that the couple still had money in their bank accounts, and Craig had written a check to his attorney in Las Vegas for $5,000 the day before -- not signs of people ready to start all over in a new country.

After all of that, the Judge said he needed a recess to think it over. Everyone talked in whispers for the next 20 minutes. Daskas walked to the back seats of the courtroom, from where Maura James had been watching the entire proceedings, sitting directly behind Anthony Gross and his silent family. Pitaro, Schonfeld and Steven Boozang conferred, sometimes with Craig, once on a while with Kelly, but most of the time amongst themselves. Reporters and cameramen gossiped.



And then, after the bailiff's preamble, Judge Bonaventure returned to his high chair and said: I've taken everything with which I was presented, both orally and in written form, into deep consideration, and I believe I must uphold their current status. They will continue to be held at the Clark County Detention Center without bail.

No one reacted with much expression.

After discussing some logistic matters, Schonfeld told the judge that for some reason unknown to him, Craig was often being held in isolation at CCDC, and that made it very difficult to consult with his client on a regular basis. He then asked the judge to talk with the prison to see if they could discontinue Craig's trips to the hole.



Wow - what an interesting court appearance. Close to two hours long.

Well - the judge, while not granting bail at the moment, left everything status quo - reserving ruling on he bail motion until March 29th, the next court appearance. Regarding the motion of suppressing any statements in the 102 page document given by Craig & Kelly in Boston when they were secretly recorded without their knowledge, that was not heard because neither the judges nor the DA had a copy of the motion, which was filed the day before. Apparently, this motion didn't make it through the red tape of the justice system.

Also, regarding the Taser, while they say that Craig gave a friend the taser gun in a gym bag, and they found remnants of taser shots (called taser dots) at the house, they don't have any evidence yet to say that Melissa was actually tasered, only a theory. As for Craig & Kelly admitting to friends that they used a taser gun on Melissa James (as heard from Las Vegas News 3 via alleged court documents), none of that came out in court (which should have been a huge factor), and many sources are wondering if this is actual. What is true is that Taser International examined the gun and said that it was fired six times on December 13 between 2:10 and 2:12pm.


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Re: 02-10-06: Titus and Ryan admit to tasing Melissa James
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2006, 10:07:58 AM »
Pitaro gave Judge Bonaventure and the rest of the courtroom a 30-minute lesson on the fundamental principle of bail -- invoking the constitution, the country's forefathers, a hundred precedent cases, and many more reasons why Kelly should be granted a reasonable bail price right then and there.

Pitaro is a moron. The first thing law students learn in Courtroom Arguments 101 is that you DON'T lecture a judge on the law. Talking down to a judge is just plain stupid.

Bail denied! ;D
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