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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #25 on: September 01, 2014, 03:13:46 PM »
from a bible perspective was it right to a)steal b) get the thief
at the end of the day bible laws come first

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #26 on: September 01, 2014, 03:26:32 PM »
I would have eliminated the threat.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2014, 04:00:18 AM »
I would have drunk a lot of vodka.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2014, 04:14:51 AM »
adonis get a fuckin job in electricity and stop being a fucken fagget quoting the walmart employee manual  ::)
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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2014, 04:36:38 AM »
i agree with u guys saying that risking your life for 8$ hr is stupid, u think walmart gives a shit about its employess ::)
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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #30 on: September 02, 2014, 04:47:27 AM »
Securitas who deliver money to cash dispensers company policy is that if their staff get threatened during a cash drop they hand over the money immediatly and make sure they dont get hurt.

Yet each year they have an award ceremony where staff recieve commendations for holding onto the bags and not getting robbed.

Surely those staff should be being disciplined rather than rewarded??

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #31 on: September 02, 2014, 06:20:41 AM »
AP09 is Walmart's policy on dealing with shoplifters.  In it, it states  "If a weapon comes out, however, associates must "disengage" and "withdraw."

It also states that only non-aggressive methods are to be used.  They are fucked.

Here is the policy so morons like Wolfox can educate themselves:

http://media.bonnint.net/slc/2489/248982/24898223.pdf
TA is correct.the policy is to disengage if they get aggressive.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #32 on: September 02, 2014, 06:24:40 AM »
Securitas who deliver money to cash dispensers company policy is that if their staff get threatened during a cash drop they hand over the money immediatly and make sure they dont get hurt.

Yet each year they have an award ceremony where staff recieve commendations for holding onto the bags and not getting robbed.

Surely those staff should be being disciplined rather than rewarded??

little bit harsh  ;D
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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #33 on: September 02, 2014, 06:25:33 AM »
Remember fellas, never put your life at risk for property of others. :)



My dad used to say that .

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #34 on: September 02, 2014, 06:57:33 AM »
If I was the guy who got beat up, I would certainly get criminal charges for assault, battery, false imprisonment and whatever else would easily fit this situation.
Closet thief outed.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2014, 08:23:21 AM »
These are the scum that cops have to deal with....Cop haters are fucking scumbags.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #36 on: September 02, 2014, 09:29:13 AM »
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Incorrect. In California I am a licensed security guard so I do have a clue. I took a mandatory state course called Power to Arrest which outlined specifics of MY authority to arrest. My authority is actually no different than that of a citizen making an arrest which is legal in California you nincompoop. The real difference is as a security hired by a business I am acting as an agent on behalf of that business and thus private property laws come into effect. Think of it as you defending your own house and property Adam, because that's essentially what it is. You'd probably defend Joe Horn but not Walmarts right to protect its property?
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Actually, Walmart is going to be screwed out of millions and these two guys will be fired, and most likely arrested too.  The problem stems with assault back. These guys could of videotaped the incident, the car, everything and could of used pepper spray. Instead, they went after the 'thief' in a brutal way, who regardless is innocent until proven guilty. 

They are in trouble because their is a video showing the attacks before and after.  Yes, they can claim he stabbed them, but he can claim he was defending themselves against people who have no badges and more.

California does have a 'citizen right to arrest' someone but as I was clearly told, if you are going to do that, you better be prepared for the consequences too.

A simple video tape showing the person would of sufficed. Instead, him stealing $30 worth of products is going to cost them a lot more (millions).  You want to stop theft.  Videotape, post the pics and the video, and make everyone know this scumbag stole. Make it a lot easier for the police to do their job.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #37 on: September 02, 2014, 01:25:28 PM »
Only law enforcement has the power to arrest. 

Incorrect. Talking bullshit like usual.


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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2014, 01:31:29 PM »
Incorrect. Talking bullshit like usual.
Citizens do not have the same arrest powers as police do, moron.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #40 on: September 02, 2014, 01:36:45 PM »
Citizens do not have the same arrest powers as police do, moron.
Thats not what you originally wrote.

Play fair.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #41 on: September 02, 2014, 01:38:38 PM »
Citizens do not have the same arrest powers as police do, moron.

Your statement was that only law enforcement could arrest, which is false. Stick to cooking, and building your 155 lbs physique. 

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #42 on: September 02, 2014, 01:42:29 PM »
Your statement was that only law enforcement could arrest, which is false. Stick to cooking, and building your 155 lbs physique. 
Only law enforcement can detain under reasonable suspicion which applies here.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #43 on: September 02, 2014, 01:45:51 PM »
Depends on what is done to detain someone. A citizen can not use lethal force to detain someone simply because they are suspected of stealing. Now, if say for example a man has the shit severely  kicked out of him by a few bystanders because he was stabbing a child I don't think anyone would be prosecuted.  ;)

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #44 on: September 02, 2014, 01:47:01 PM »
Your statement was that only law enforcement could arrest, which is false. Stick to cooking, and building your 155 lbs physique. 

TA back tracking like a dipshit with his foot in his mouth.

TA is a complete moron.
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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #45 on: September 02, 2014, 01:50:16 PM »
the law is similiar to the uk

any citizen can arrest someone who they see commiting an offence

so if you saw a man walking out a shop with stolen goods you could arrest them

if you only suspected then you cant but a police officer can

its very simple
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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2014, 01:50:23 PM »
Depends on what is done to detain someone. A citizen can not use lethal force to detain someone simply because they are suspected of stealing. Now, if say for example a man has the shit severely  kicked out of him by a few bystanders because he was stabbing a child I don't think anyone would be prosecuted.  ;)
Exactly.  That would be reasonable force, plus that goes beyond reasonable suspicion.


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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2014, 01:51:33 PM »
Citizens Arrest seem to work very well.  ::)



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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #48 on: September 02, 2014, 01:53:54 PM »

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Re: Walmart employee gets stabbed taking down a thief (video)
« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2014, 01:54:35 PM »
Citizens Arrest seem to work very well.  ::)




It doesn't matter if citizens arrest work well or not. That was not the point you made. You stated only law enforcement officials are allowed to arrest people. Clearly, that is not the case. Whether citizens arrest work well or not is a whole different topic.
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