High Carbs is why people are fat?

[Damios]

High Carb Diet is why people ( primarily it is very known sentence in America... ) are fat? 

[the trainer]

High Carb Diet is why people ( primarily it is very known sentence in America... ) are fat? 

Please get some knowledge before making stupid threads, nothing is wrong with eating carbs the problem is eating process foods with high amounts of sodium and process sugar and very little fiber.

[jprc10]

No.

[anabolichalo]

i eat a ton of carbs and always have

total balonie

americanos are fat because they have some sort of brain malfunction that causes them to lack impulse control and never reach satiety

[FermiDirac]

Overshooting your caloric intake is what makes you a fat disgusting tubby slob. 

[thegamechanger]

people are fat because they want to be.

[anabolichalo]

people are fat because they want to be.

i think they have a brain malfunction


skinny people are not skinny because they want to be

they are on auto pilot when it comes to diet most of them

just like fatsoes


only difference the auto pilot programming for fatsoes is fucked

i think issue lies in brain physiology

[anabolichalo]

Precisely what insulin and sugar spikes to do people my friend.

interesting

look at my second posting tho

the issue intrigues me

and the "lack of discipline" thing is funny

we all know skinny people are not skinny because of discipline

they just eat like twinks because it comes natural to them

when they try to "bulk up" it is revealed they are just as "undisciplined" as a fat person trying to lose weight


it's like their "genetics"  

[FermiDirac]

Dis-proven myth, a calorie is not a calorie.

Ok, then go ahead and beat me in physics and show us how you create more energy than you consume in order to preserve bodyweight on a caloric deficit.

[thegamechanger]

lets not treat all fat people the same

im sure theres people out there working on the perfect fat physique just as a bodybuilder is.

"just a little more belly fat"

"a little more fat on the arms"

"just need to bring up my double chin a little more... perfect"

we're suppose to applaud bodybuilding but not fatbuilding ?? its just as good and important

fatbuilding is the brother of bodybuilding.

[jprc10]

I eat plenty of carbs, including simple sugars and have done so my whole life, never had any problems with insulin sensitivity or getting fat.

Overeating and lack of exercise is the main cause for a large percentage of americans being fat

[thegamechanger]

fat people use a fork.

ban the fork and you get rid of fat.

simple solution. that works!!

[FermiDirac]

fat people use a fork.

ban the fork and you get rid of fat.

simple solution. that works!!

Would you rather watch these tubbs gobble down food with their fat chubby sausage fingers? 

[thegamechanger]

Would you rather watch these tubbs gobble down food with their fat chubby sausage fingers? 

i rather tie their hands and let them eat with their feet, might not be pleasurable to watch but it should slow em down enough not to explode in fatness

[anabolichalo]

Sugar is exactly like a drug, it's what your mind prefers over everything else to eat, instant gratification.

Also more sugar you eat the more sugar crashes you get, the more sugar you need to eat to satisfy your craving and it becomes vicious cycle.

Add this to the fact that most people are sedentary, leads to obesity, heart disease and diabetes.

Next time you go to supermarket look at just how much sugar or carb's fill up the aisles, over 80%.

Sugar is number one reason for 90% of population getting fat and have problems, this is a fact.

Sugar = Drug addict
 

fascinating

so the issue lies in the brains reward system


now the question is how come there are skinny people and fat people when all have access to any food products


i think fat people naturally have less impulse control, less development of the lymbic system

in short

fat people are more like animals who will eat themselves to death when presented with enough food to be fatal, kinda like gold fish or labrador

[kyomu]

No training is the biggest factor.
Then high carb is the second factor.

[thegamechanger]

when there is no more food that fat people will be killed and eaten.

[jprc10]

haha oh brother "sugar is like a drug"  

So much ignorance being posted.

[anabolichalo]

so far people have only come up with semi scientific explanations for obesity

but none of them address why there are skinny people if this is all true


dont pretend like the average skinny guy watches his diet

[FermiDirac]

Far beyond the scope of this thread, if you cannot see that the law of thermodynamic is entirely irrelevant when it comes to discussing body composition  within the context of weight loss then I am afraid you will be at a loss. You will need to study and understand how the Krebs cycle actually works to appeciate what I am talking about here, it is very complicated, not simple the way you think.

A "calorie" is merely a man made arbitrary mathematical valuation used to describe unit of energy, that is all. Macro and Micro nutrients and the affect those have on your hormones and your metabolism as whole is what determines weight loss and body composition.

Eating 1500 calories of pure sugar vs eating 1500 calories of chicken breast with all other factors being absolutely identical WILL NOT yield the same weight loss or body composition results (whether it be fat, water, or muscle, bone etc) for a wide variety of endocrinological and physiological reasons described above.

"A calorie is not a calorie" is then based on the body adapting/changing its metabolic rate due to the source of energy. Although, any "diet expert" can make these claims, do you have any scientific journals to back up these claims?

Although, I'm on the same page when it comes to results being dependent on the source of energy.

[anabolichalo]

i'm still not satisfied with the explanation as to why skinny people are skinny and stay skinny as opposed to fat people


a lot of skinny people have horrible horrible food choices but somehow automatically maintain equilibrium by eating a little less here a little more there

all this automatically without conscious effort


fact^^^^

[FermiDirac]

i'm still not satisfied with the explanation as to why skinny people are skinny and stay skinny as opposed to fat people


a lot of skinny people have horrible horrible food choices but somehow automatically maintain equilibrium by eating a little less here a little more there

all this automatically without conscious effort


fact^^^^

I think it boils down to the choice of lifestyle.

Even if it appears they are "varied" in their food intake, they are probably very homogeneous in their daily energy intake. They have the same daily level of activity (slobs in front of a desk/computer/sofa) and eat 1.5 meals a day.

[anabolichalo]

a lot of this is fucking bullshit sorry

in my country so many skinny twinks eating mcdonalds and turkish greasy kebab shit everyday

and still skinny

food choices are irrelevant

a skinny person will autmatiaclly correct calories to maintain weight, eat less after big eating day, automatically he will not put conscious thought into this

a fat person will never stop shoveling down food, also automatically


fat people just have a brain deformation in bodyweight equilibrium part

[FermiDirac]

The other important factor to mention is that when you eat food in modern day society in the west you are not just eating food.

You are eating food accompanied by wide variety of chemicals and hormones used in the manufacturing, distribution and storage process.

If you understand what actually goes into Coca Cola, or how the meat for a Big Mac is actually prepared you will never eat one again probably if you value your health etc.

These chemicals and hormones lead to metabolic damage  in you system making you crave more of their product and destroying your health.

They spend millions and millions in research and development for this purpose, to make you buy more and more of their shit products and save the most amount of money for their costs.

It's all about their profit, not you the consumer and your health.

There is an interesting documentary on this matter, called "Food inc". I highly recommend it.

[Thin Lizzy]

While I agree Carbs are the main culprit, the low carb movement has spawned an industry of low carb junk food. Food addicts on low carb diets wolf down Atkins bars at 200+ calories a pop which keep them from getting into a caloric deficit.