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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #175 on: September 07, 2014, 06:48:17 PM »
People buy their products, or any products for that matter, because they think it's a good deal. Not sure what your point is.
The Japanese built their products on reliability. First during the 70s, oil crisis, then in the 80s, and damn near everybody had a Walkman, then a Discman, Toyota and Honda reigned supreme. And the domestic still use them as a yardstick for reliability. Go to any grocery store parking lot on a Sat or Sun and you will probably see more Japanese cars than domestics. Also, the Japanese are verg protectionist when it comes fo Ford, GM selling cars over in Japan. You'd be surely wrong if you don't think that making the US pay in some form or another isn't also a goal as well.

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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #176 on: September 07, 2014, 09:39:53 PM »
I agree.  ;D  I guess it was meant to sound "deeply profound".  Or something.  ;D

Your machine shop skills are complete.  Pretty nice surface finish you've achieved there, Luke.  Mr Peterman has taught you well.

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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #177 on: September 08, 2014, 06:13:21 PM »
The Japanese built their products on reliability. First during the 70s, oil crisis, then in the 80s, and damn near everybody had a Walkman, then a Discman, Toyota and Honda reigned supreme. And the domestic still use them as a yardstick for reliability. Go to any grocery store parking lot on a Sat or Sun and you will probably see more Japanese cars than domestics. Also, the Japanese are verg protectionist when it comes fo Ford, GM selling cars over in Japan. You'd be surely wrong if you don't think that making the US pay in some form or another isn't also a goal as well.

I agree with everything you just said. Just didn't get the relevance or the point of your original comment.

The particular issue was how we completely destroyed the Japanese and rebuilt into a completely different and better society.

Often it's not enough to just win. You have to completely destroy and break the will of your opponent Tecumseh Sherman style. You never want your opponment/enemy to think "If only I had done this or done that.", "If only we had this advantage or this break.", "If only it didn't rain that day and that mudslide messed everything up." No you want complete destruction.

Remember in any competition you had in life where it was close? The first thing you think is "rematch"? The Germans felt they got stabbed in the back after WW1. When we stopped at Kuwait it made Saddamn look like he survived the American Armada. He didn't feel like he really "lost" the war. Unless you break the will and destroy you enemy there is always a round two.

This guy knew what war really was and how to fight it. Brutal, without mercy, complete -- and short! You save more lives that way in the long term. More lives were saved after we dropped the A-bomb on Japan. After Okinawa and the huge price we paid and now the prospect of a much more heavily fortified and determined Japan we did the right thing. We ended it right there and then. Something we just don't do now.


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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #178 on: September 08, 2014, 08:03:46 PM »
I agree with everything you just said. Just didn't get the relevance or the point of your original comment.

The particular issue was how we completely destroyed the Japanese and rebuilt into a completely different and better society.

Often it's not enough to just win. You have to completely destroy and break the will of your opponent Tecumseh Sherman style. You never want your opponment/enemy to think "If only I had done this or done that.", "If only we had this advantage or this break.", "If only it didn't rain that day and that mudslide messed everything up." No you want complete destruction.

Remember in any competition you had in life where it was close? The first thing you think is "rematch"? The Germans felt they got stabbed in the back after WW1. When we stopped at Kuwait it made Saddamn look like he survived the American Armada. He didn't feel like he really "lost" the war. Unless you break the will and destroy you enemy there is always a round two.

This guy knew what war really was and how to fight it. Brutal, without mercy, complete -- and short! You save more lives that way in the long term. More lives were saved after we dropped the A-bomb on Japan. After Okinawa and the huge price we paid and now the prospect of a much more heavily fortified and determined Japan we did the right thing. We ended it right there and then. Something we just don't do now.



How do you feel about a few tactical nukes decimating some Middle East hot spots?

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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #179 on: September 09, 2014, 08:34:09 AM »
How do you feel about a few tactical nukes decimating some Middle East hot spots?
I feel like there would be lots of fresh, glass parking lots for the new Super Wal Marts that would be going in.

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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #180 on: September 09, 2014, 11:41:04 AM »
pallius using his eyes to produce fairy tales again

the Japanese fascists were put right back into power after the war

as you were...

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Re: Message from USMC to Isis
« Reply #181 on: September 09, 2014, 01:22:47 PM »
"In retrospect, apart from the military officer corps, the purge of alleged militarists and ultranationalists that was conducted under the Occupation had relatively small impact on the long-term composition of men of influence in the public and private sectors. The purge initially brought new blood into the political parties, but this was offset by the return of huge numbers of formerly purged conservative politicians to national as well as local politics in the early 1950s. In the bureaucracy, the purge was negligible from the outset. ... In the economic sector, the purge similarly was only mildly disruptive, affecting less than sixteen hundred individuals spread among some four hundred companies. Everywhere one looks, the corridors of power in postwar Japan are crowded with men whose talents had already been recognized during the war years, and who found the same talents highly prized in the 'new' Japan."

J. W. Dower
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