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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #50 on: September 09, 2014, 12:56:03 PM »
Again, you are wrong, learn how to read.

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Spinning Obama’s reference to Islamic State as a ‘JV’ team
By Glenn Kessler September 3, 2014 

Question: “Did the president underestimate ISIS [the terrorist group Islamic State of Iraq and Syria] when he referred to them in an interview only a couple months ago as a JV squad and making a reference to National Basketball Association basketball teams like the Lakers?”

White House spokesman Josh Earnest: “I thought somebody might ask this question today so I wanted to pull the transcript of the interview because it’s important to understand the context in which this was delivered. So let me just read the full quote and then we can talk about it:

“‘I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.’

“So the president was not singling out ISIL [Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, another name for the group], he was talking about the very different threat that is posed by a range of extremists around the globe. Many of them do not have designs on attacking the West or attacking the United States, and that is what puts them in stark contrast to the goals and capability of the previously existing al-Qaeda core network that was led by Osama bin Laden.”

– exchange at White House news briefing, Aug. 25, 2014

Several readers asked us to examine this claim from White House spokesman Josh Earnest that President Obama was not singling out the group that now calls itself as Islamic State when, during in an interview with the New Yorker that appeared last January, he appeared to dismiss it as a “JV squad.” Since then, the group has taken over vast segments of Iraqi territory, declared itself a state and has posted videos that appear to show the beheadings of two American journalists.


The Facts

The New Yorker article, written by David Remnick, appeared in the Jan. 27, 2014, issue. It was clearly based on a series of interviews with the president, over a period of months, but the interview in question took place in the Oval Office on Jan. 7, according to the previously unreleased transcript obtained by The Fact Checker.

The date is important because just four days before, newspapers reported that the Islamic State had captured and raised its flag over Fallujah, where Marines in 2004 had fought one of the bloodiest battles of the U.S. invasion. As Liz Sly of The Washington Post reported:

A rejuvenated al-Qaeda-affiliated force asserted control over the western Iraqi city of Fallujah on Friday, raising its flag over government buildings and declaring an Islamic state in one of the most crucial areas that U.S. troops fought to pacify before withdrawing from Iraq two years ago….

The upheaval also affirmed the soaring capabilities of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the rebranded version of the al-Qaeda in Iraq organization that was formed a decade ago to confront U.S. troops and expanded into Syria last year while escalating its activities in Iraq.

It was in that context that Remnick asked about a possible resurgence of al-Qaeda. Here is what the transcript shows:

   Q:  You know where this is going, though. Even in the period that you’ve been on vacation in the last couple of weeks, in Iraq, in Syria, of course, in Africa, al-Qaeda is resurgent.

THE PRESIDENT:  Yes, but, David, I think the analogy we use around here sometimes, and I think is accurate, is if a JV team puts on Lakers uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant. I think there is a distinction between the capacity and reach of a bin Laden and a network that is actively planning major terrorist plots against the homeland versus jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes, often sectarian.

Q: But that JV team jus[t] took over Fallujah.

THE PRESIDENT:  I understand.  But when you say took over Fallujah –

Q:  And I don’t know for how long.

THE PRESIDENT:  But let’s just keep in mind, Fallujah is a profoundly conservative Sunni city in a country that, independent of anything we do, is deeply divided along sectarian lines. And how we think about terrorism has to be defined and specific enough that it doesn’t lead us to think that any horrible actions that take place around the world that are motivated in part by an extremist Islamic ideology is a direct threat to us or something that we have to wade into.

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The president’s “JV” comment was so striking that Remnick, in his article, referred to it as “an uncharacteristically flip analogy.” The New Yorker article does not specifically refer to ISIS, but it is fairly clear in the article — and certainly clear in the transcript — that Remnick was asking about its takeover of Fallujah.

In the White House briefing, Earnest asserted that Obama was referring to groups that “do not have designs on attacking the West or on attacking the United States … they certainly don’t have the capability of attacking the West.” He told reporters that “it’s important that we don’t sort of shorthand the analogy that the president was trying to draw here,” in that the president was referring to “jihadists who are engaged in various local power struggles and disputes.”

But the context of Remnick’s question makes it clear that he was asking about ISIS, as the president acknowledged. Perhaps at the time the president viewed it as a local matter between jihadists, but now, eight months later, the United States is striking Islamic State targets in an effort to turn back its advance across Iraqi territory.

We asked Earnest and White House representatives for a response but over a four-day period did not get a reply.

The Pinocchio Test

With the passage of eight months, the president’s “JV” comment looks increasingly untenable, so we can understand why the White House spokesman would try to suggest that what is now known as the Islamic State was not the subject of the conversation.

But in quoting from the transcript, Earnest provided a selective reading of the discussion. In particular, he failed to provide the context in which Obama made his remarks — the takeover of Fallujah by ISIS. That’s fairly misleading. The interviewer was certainly asking about ISIS when Obama answered with his “JV” remarks.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #51 on: September 09, 2014, 01:00:57 PM »


I understand what he is saying perfectly. the kobe bryant comment brought it home, you are fucking retarded.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #52 on: September 09, 2014, 01:03:22 PM »
I understand what he is saying perfectly. the kobe bryant comment brought it home, you are fucking retarded.

Me, the Washington Post, pretty much every member of the liberal media, etc. 

This is a perfect example of how the man got elected.  Even Canadians drink the Kool-Aide.   :-\

Did you even read the article? 

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #53 on: September 09, 2014, 01:05:20 PM »
I understand what he is saying perfectly. the kobe bryant comment brought it home, you are fucking retarded.

Doper in Chief is an idiot and dead wrong - hope that helps

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #54 on: September 09, 2014, 03:40:25 PM »
Again, you are wrong, learn how to read.

HHEHEHEEH!! You are just being a stupid troll.

You must be acting. You can't actually be that stupid.


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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #55 on: September 09, 2014, 08:55:02 PM »
Cheney to GOP: Obama Supported the Muslim Brotherhood and Therefore ISIS
Mediaite ^ | September 9, 2014 | Tina Nguyen
Posted on September 9, 2014 at 11:38:49 PM EDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In a closed-door meeting with the House Republicans, former Vice President Dick Cheney placed the blame for ISIS, Hamas, and the multiple Islamist groups proliferating in the Middle East, on the shoulders of Barack Obama.

During the meeting, which was confirmed to the Daily Beast‘s Ben Jacobs by multiple congressmen, Cheney accused Obama of “facilitating the Muslim Brotherhood” with his policies. According to Rep. John Fleming (R-LA), Cheney said Obama “has actually done things that have supported the Muslim Brotherhood,” which spurred “the beginning of all the Islamist groups that we’re dealing with now like Hamas and ISIS.”

Anticipating Obama’s upcoming speech on Wednesday on potential military action in Iraq, Cheney called on the GOP to push for more “aggressive” action in the Middle East. By “facilitating the Muslim Brotherhood,” Cheney argued, “our policies have been exactly opposite to where they should be.”

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #56 on: September 09, 2014, 09:05:22 PM »
Obama's ordered 153 airstrikes on ISIS targets in the last month?

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #57 on: September 09, 2014, 09:08:22 PM »
Obama's ordered 153 airstrikes on ISIS targets in the last month?


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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #58 on: September 09, 2014, 09:11:02 PM »
Yippee

ISIS is now armed with lots of rifles stamped with "USA" on them.

these "rebels" sold one of the reporters at the border to ISIS for 25,000 - nbc news.
these "rebels" are losing/selling guns to the ISIS terrorists to use against us.

Was it dems that screamed we should arm the rebels, that obama wasn't arming the rebels fast enough?  lol

ah, it's sickening across the board.  still blaming libs when you should be blaming washington altogether.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #59 on: September 09, 2014, 09:12:16 PM »
Obama's ordered 153 airstrikes on ISIS targets in the last month?


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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #60 on: September 09, 2014, 09:29:47 PM »
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US Military Launches More Airstrikes Against ISIS Targets in Iraq

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(WASHINGTON) -- The U.S. military conducted five more airstrikes against Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) targets near the Haditha Dam in Iraq, U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM) said Tuesday.

The strikes, which were in support of Iraqi Security Forces and Sunni tribes protecting the dam, "destroyed or damaged eight ISIL armed vehicles, two of which were transporting anti-aircraft artillery; five ISIL vehicles, and one ISIL transport vehicle," CENTCOM said in a statement.

Fighter and remotely piloted aircraft used in the strikes all managed to exit the area safely.

Since Aug. 8, CENTCOM says it has conducted 153 airstrikes across Iraq.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #61 on: September 09, 2014, 09:34:34 PM »
That's my personal belief. Which is the reason why he turns his back and does nothing. I think he apart of it.

"Does nothing"?

He ordered lots of airstrikes on ISIS on Aug 7, 2014.
Between Aug 8 and Sept 9th, we have used 153 airstrikes on them.

So you're saying MORE airtrikes should have been used, coach?  Is that what you're saying?
How many should we have used?  1000 airstrikes?  2000?

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #62 on: September 09, 2014, 10:07:53 PM »
Thanks.

So how is Obama covering for ISIS again?

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #63 on: September 10, 2014, 02:11:52 AM »
Thanks.

So how is Obama covering for ISIS again?

You're taking a thread started by Joe or Chris serious?  :D
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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #64 on: September 10, 2014, 04:55:53 AM »
Thanks.

So how is Obama covering for ISIS again?

Maybe he just ordered those 153 airstrikes to "make it look good".

You know, like he's secretly supporting this terror group, but killing thousands of them, just so people don't catch on?


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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #66 on: September 10, 2014, 10:34:35 AM »
You're taking a thread started by Joe or Chris serious?  :D


Of course they both seem like intelligent and resonable people :P

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #67 on: September 10, 2014, 10:36:08 AM »
Maybe he just ordered those 153 airstrikes to "make it look good".

You know, like he's secretly supporting this terror group, but killing thousands of them, just so people don't catch on?


Ahh that must be it.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #68 on: September 10, 2014, 10:36:18 AM »

Of course they both seem like intelligent and resonable people :P

As opposed to airsoft being a real gun?   ;D :D

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2014, 04:46:05 AM »
September 12, 2014
Obama Rejected "Best Military Advice"

CENTCOM Chief Urged Modest Combat Contingent
By Dustin Walker




As he laid out his strategy to combat the Islamic State in both Iraq and Syria, President Obama rejected the “best military advice” of his top military commander in the Middle East.

Quoting two U.S. military officials, the Washington Post reported on Wednesday that Army Gen. Lloyd Austin, commander of U.S. Central Command (CENTCOM), said “that his best military advice was to send a modest contingent of American troops, principally Special Operations forces, to advise and assist Iraqi army units in fighting the militants.”

Austin’s recommendation was taken to the White House by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Martin Dempsey. The White House rejected CENTCOM’s “advise and assist” contingent due to concerns about placing U.S. ground forces in a frontline role.

 


 
In a press briefing Thursday, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said that the president had rejected Austin’s recommendation because he believes “it is not in the best interest of American national security to send American combat troops in a combat operation to act on the ground in Iraq.”

In a nationally-televised speech on Wednesday evening, President Obama repeatedly emphasized that U.S. forces will not have a combat role in Iraq. “We will not get dragged into another ground war in Iraq,” the president said. He specifically underscored that “this effort will be different from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan,” and will resemble U.S. counterterrorism campaigns in Yemen and Somalia.

Instead, President Obama opted for a more modest course, sending an additional 475 troops to assist Iraqi and ethnic Kurdish forces; 150 of those forces will form more than a dozen teams and embed with Iraqi Security Forces at the brigade level and above, according to the Pentagon. In other words, U.S. advisers are likely to remain inside bases assisting with issues like training, intelligence, and equipment. The remainder will be assigned to conduct intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance missions and oversee U.S. military activities at headquarters in Baghdad and Erbil.

Austin’s predecessor, Marine Gen. James Mattis, told the Washington Post that the president’s decision may place the mission at risk. “The American people will once again see us in a war that doesn’t seem to be making progress,” Mattis told the paper. “You’re giving the enemy the initiative for a longer period.”

Supporters of the president’s approach, such as Rep. Adam Smith (D-Wash.), see U.S. combat troops as unnecessary, and could distract the Iraqi government and security forces from taking necessary steps to drive out ISIS militants. “Ranking Member Smith believes combat forces are not necessary in Iraq and would not help. The key is to reform the Iraqi forces and get the Sunnis to turn against ISIL,” said Michael Amato, spokesman for the top Democrat on the House Armed Services Committee.

Opponents of combat troops in Iraq say recent successes show the president’s strategy can succeed. U.S. airstrikes have helped repel ISIS advances on the city of Erbil, and aided Iraqi forces in recapturing the Mosul Dam and the city of Amerli.

But the newest phase of the U.S. campaign against ISIS faces substantial risks, including a dependence on Iraqi political and military leaders.

President Obama conditioned additional U.S. action against ISIS on the formation of an inclusive Iraqi government. Now, his strategy relies on the realization of equally inclusive governance under Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi. The president is counting on the prime minister to make substantial progress in healing sectarian wounds that festered under his predecessor, Nouri al-Maliki. But even if the new Shia-led government is determined to reconcile with Iraq’s Sunni minority, lingering resentment and mistrust could impair efforts to convince Sunni tribesmen to reject ISIS and assist in pushing the militants out of the country.

Militarily, the United States is counting on an Iraqi military with a reputation for retreat to join forces with Kurdish and Shiite militias to wage a ground offensive to recapture territory held by ISIS. Many military experts are skeptical that the Iraqis – with ineffective military leadership and sectarian divisions throughout their ranks – will be able to defeat determined and ruthless ISIS militants without the kind of American military assistance the president has ruled out to date.

The president’s strict reliance on air power also carries risks. When the United States took on al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) during “the Surge,” the strategy included special operations forces, conventional units, and intelligence operatives on the ground. Those elements are absent from President Obama’s strategy, despite the fact that ISIS is arguably a more powerful enemy than AQI in terms of manpower, weaponry, financial resources, and territory.

The difficulties of relying on airpower are likely to present themselves as U.S. and Iraqi forces attempt to dislodge ISIS militants from major urban centers. In cities like Mosul, Fallujah, and Ramadi, ISIS can adopt a more covert, insurgency-style approach blending in with local populations. In such an environment, skilled ground troops will be required to sort out enemy forces and remove them block by block.

If Iraqi and Kurdish forces prove unable to carry out such operations and progress against ISIS stalls, would the White House reconsider embedding U.S. special operations forces with frontline Iraqi units to advise and assist? 

White House press secretary Josh Earnest delivered a mixed message on that question Thursday. President Obama “is not contemplating deploying additional combat troops on the ground in either Iraq or Syria,” Earnest told reporters. But when asked if the president remains open to mission-specific applications of special operations forces if the need arises, Earnest said he was “not willing to broadly take anything off the table.”


Dustin Walker is the Editor of RealClearDefense.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2014, 04:52:21 AM »

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President Obama’s ISIS Strategy Isn’t Reality Based
 
President Obama's response to ISIS is another example of how our ruling class couples their illusions with whatever they find it convenient to do.


 


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President Obama’s promise “to degrade and ultimately destroy ISIL” may or may not end up causing problems for the Islamic State. Surely however, it further degraded our security by further engaging us in the combination of fantasy and half measures that has earned America a reputation for un-seriousness and opened hunting season on Americans everywhere.


Obama degrades America by dwelling in a politically convenient fantasy world. In his September 10 2014 prime-time speech, Obama claimed to have made America safer by combining the withdrawal of troops from abroad with the killing of Osama bin Laden and “taking out terrorists who threaten us” in places like Pakistan, Yemen and Somalia. Obama pledged to deal with ISIL in the same successful way.

 
 



In Obama’s fantasy, ISIL is neither Islamic nor a state. But distinguishing ISIL’s doctrine from the orthodox Wahabism preached daily in Mecca and Minneapolis, and that from the Koran, is hardly possible for scholars never mind for religiously illiterate politicians. In fact, some of the world’s wealthiest and most influential Muslims think enough of ISIL’s Islamic credentials to give it countless millions of dollars as a faith-offering, thousands upon thousands of young Muslims from around the world, including the USA rush to fight and die for it, the Muslim governments of Qatar and Turkey, respectively, continue to buy and transit supplies for it, while the Islamic world’s leading intellectual authorities have not critiqued its Islamic credentials.


De facto, ISIL is a state because it controls territory larger than that of a plurality of the UN’s members, and because the people it rules prefer it to their former rulers. They do so because ISIL shares the people’s religious sect (Sunni Islam) while the leaders of the former Syria and Iraq are Alewis or Shia. ISIL conquered its territory with the help of the locals.  In Iraq, the local Sunnis helped ISIL chase away the Iraqi army, and the Kurds too, using arms given them by the US government as part of “the surge.”


But in Obama’s fantasy, as expressed by Sandy Berger, Clinton’s former national security adviser whose advice Obama solicited, our confrontation with ISIL “can’t turn into a U.S versus Sunni battle.” “It has to be us helping the Sunnis battle the Sunni extremists.” It has to be that, regardless of whether the Sunnis who live under ISIL regard their rulers as extremists or not. The locals have to look at things the way we do. They just damn well have to.


More than that, the folks in the region have to believe in and fight for entities called “Iraq” and “Syria,” to which heretofore they have shown scarce allegiance but in which Obama, like the Bushes and Clinton before him, professes to believe deeply. In his speech, he told the world that he had helped fix Iraq by brokering the new, “inclusive” Iraqi government sworn in on September 8. By supporting its efforts “to address the legitimate grievances and needs of all Iraqis”- read, the Sunnis – that government will “drive a wedge between ISIL and Sunnis.” Thus, “The Iraqi Government is taking the fight to ISIL, and will ultimately be the one to defeat it in Iraq.” Inclusiveness will do the trick, for Obama just as it did for Bush. This time, for sure.


If the hard men who now run the ISIL military, who had been Saddam Hussein’s security cadre, who marched against an Iraqi army flush with top-of-the line US arms confident that Iraqi soldiers would hand them over; if the Sunni Islamist agitators whom the American occupation of Iraq had imprisoned for shooting Americans and who now lead an ISIL Caliphate that draws countless recruits aching to behead Americans; if such people believed Obama’s speech, if they shared the Obama-Sandy Berger thesis, they would be quaking in their boots. Odds are they listened to Obama’s speech with glee.


They heard Obama promise to reduce ISIL’s revenue “from oil and assets it has plundered” and to disrupt “the flow of external donations to the group.” They know, just as any well-informed person anywhere knows, that the US government has the capacity to do just that. But they also know what Obama would have to do to accomplish it – namely institute some kind of secondary sanctions on countries (and there are a lot of them) that traffic in oil sold by ISIL – and that Obama does not have the slightest intention of upsetting these countries or the domestic US interests that deal with them. As for cutting off the external donations, the hard men of ISIL can use their financial account books as comfort-pillows, confident that Obama – and John McCain, Qatar’s favorite senator – will bring zero significant pressure on any Gulf rulers to jail their cousins who fund ISIL.


The secular and religious men of ISIL did not hear a peep from Obama about how the pipeline of food and fuel and medicine through Turkey by which ISIL survives is going to be shut down. That is because it isn’t going to be shut down and ISIL, along with its host population, will continue to eat, drink, and be well.


They heard Obama promise to strike from the air to “degrade ISIL’s leadership, logistical and operational capability, and deny it sanctuary and resources to plan, prepare and execute attack.” They know that America has an air force that could do that. Heck, they know that Saudi Arabia and Jordan together have over 400 modern fighter-bombers that, even without American attack aircraft but only with American air controllers, these could starve and kill them in an intensive campaign over a couple of months. But Obama told them that all they need worry about is the sort of thing that America has mustered against its enemies in recent years. Massive campaigns aimed at swift victory are now politically incorrect in Washington.


Obama promised to limit “ISIL’s ability to extort local populations; stemming ISIL’s gains from kidnapping for ransom.” That would be serious. But the men of ISIL can discount the threat because executing it would take physically pushing ISIL rulers out with a substantial ground force. Obama made it clear that the U.S. will not supply such a force. (Good thing too, because a US ground invasion would likely repeat the disastrous Iraq occupation policy). The Kurds fight magnificently. But they have learned to do so exclusively for Kurdistan. The Iraqi army does not, and will not, exist. Iraq has plenty of ferocious Shia militias – death squads – eager to take the equivalent of Sunni scalps. But all know that Obama will do his best to shield ISIL from the Shia. The Saudis demand it.


Again and again, Obama degraded the English language by describing his fantasy as “strategy,” as in: “our strategy will be underpinned by a strong coalition of regional and international partners who are willing to commit resources and will to this long-term endeavor.” This usage is akin to: “our strategy is to make a ham sandwich, contingent on somebody providing the bread and someone else the ham,” or “the mouse’s strategy for dealing with the cat is to place a bell around its neck.”


But Obama gave no hint as to how “regional and international partners” would be persuaded to do whatever it takes to “degrade and destroy” ISIL – nor even of what activity and what level thereof would be required to do that – any more than how any mouse might go about belling a cat.


The American people watched videos of men like ourselves being beheaded by Muslim thugs with a knife who now dispose of a state, and who are drawing unto themselves God-knows-how many would-be beheaders of Americans. The American people reasonably demanded a real campaign to destroy ISIL. What Obama delivered was yet more fantasy.


Alas, our ruling class couples their illusions with whatever they find it convenient to do, and call it “strategy.” Thereby do they advertise their impotence.











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Angelo M. Codevilla is a fellow of the Claremont Institute, professor emeritus of international relations at Boston University and the author of To Make And Keep Peace, Hoover Institution Press, 2014.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #72 on: September 12, 2014, 06:20:41 AM »
this guy is saying ISIL is a state, it is not.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #73 on: September 12, 2014, 06:21:33 AM »
this guy is saying ISIL is a state, it is not.

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Re: Obama is covering for ISIS
« Reply #74 on: September 12, 2014, 06:55:15 AM »
LMFAO!!!!!   

It's not recognized as a state by any country. No more then AQ is a state.