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Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2014, 01:16:56 PM »
You bring up a good point (not that I am annoying and stupid  >:() but that they think the U.S. are the terrorists. They think we are the terminators with all of our technology.

Two totally different ideologies. Never will we come to an agreement.

We have been "crusading" for almost a 1,000 years now.

Nothing has changed.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2014, 01:19:01 PM »
Treason carries the death penalty.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #27 on: September 04, 2014, 01:20:37 PM »
He did not call US terrorists from what you posted there, he said they would view the West as terrorists (more accurately oppressors).

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #28 on: September 04, 2014, 01:23:05 PM »
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terrorism
ˈtɛrərɪzəm/Submit
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the unofficial or unauthorized use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

Is the USAs involvement in the middle east official and authorised by the people they are fighting?

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #29 on: September 04, 2014, 01:23:46 PM »
Treason carries the death penalty.
Here Shizzo rationalizing the beheading of Americans:

This shit goes both ways people. Thats why there will never be peace. Both sides believe in what they are fighting for.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #30 on: September 04, 2014, 01:24:33 PM »
i have to defend shizzo here

his quote is nothing like the thread title
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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #31 on: September 04, 2014, 01:25:17 PM »
Here Shizzo rationalizing the beheading of Americans:


It's like looking into the dark soul of the Devil himself.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #32 on: September 04, 2014, 01:26:27 PM »
Is the USAs involvement in the middle east official and authorised by the people they are fighting?
Your country has been bending over for Islam for so long you probably enjoy it.  England=nation of cowards.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2014, 01:26:59 PM »
Shizzo is just special.
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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2014, 01:27:57 PM »
i have to defend shizzo here

his quote is nothing like the thread title
Of course you defend him. You're an english coward.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2014, 01:28:07 PM »
Your country has been bending over for Islam for so long you probably enjoy it.  England=nation of cowards.
Would you like to answer the question I posed rather than introducing a strawman?

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2014, 01:30:39 PM »
Of course you defend him. You're an english coward.

great response buttercup

im actually scottish and ive served for my country

im guessing playing call of duty is how you earned your stripes

tough guy
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Re: ISIS now threaten Putin!!!
« Reply #37 on: September 04, 2014, 01:33:22 PM »
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You bring up a good point (not that I am annoying and stupid  Angry) but that they think the U.S. are the terrorists. They think we are the terminators with all of our technology. Two totally different ideologies. Never will we come to an agreement. We have been "crusading" for almost a 1,000 years now. Nothing has changed.

They think that anyone who does not adhere to their crazy way of radical Islam is against them and should not be able to live.  Very dangerous.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #38 on: September 04, 2014, 01:40:37 PM »
Would you like to answer the question I posed rather than introducing a strawman?
Why would I feel compelled to answer your question? Read the definiton you posted, then read your question, then understand that I don't respect you.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #39 on: September 04, 2014, 01:43:17 PM »
Why would I feel compelled to answer your question? Read the definiton you posted, then read your question, then understand that I don't respect you.
Have you ever hear the term, "One mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter"?

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #40 on: September 04, 2014, 01:44:19 PM »
Good point, precisely this hence why in essence the term "terrorism" is  nonsensical within that context.

However, we must distinguish between two army's fighting for their respective causes in battle than the killing and maiming of innocent civilians by "terrorists". Civillians have no say in the matter, ability to negotiate of influence the outcome of the dispute.

If an army attacks another nation convention is usually followed and normally the other army has the choice to surrender first. If they choose to die in battle for their cause its their choice.

A civilian on the other hand has no choice to surrender, negotiate or use diplomacy as a tool prior to the event.

This is the key point and difference and why "true terrorism" is such a cowardly and callous act.


Hiroshima?
Nagasaki?

Dresden?

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Re: ISIS now threaten Putin!!!
« Reply #41 on: September 04, 2014, 01:47:56 PM »
Dresden. One of the greatest atrocities in the history of man.

But totally lawful.    ::)

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Re: ISIS now threaten Putin!!!
« Reply #42 on: September 04, 2014, 01:49:10 PM »
Putin must be shaking LOL  ::)

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #43 on: September 04, 2014, 01:54:04 PM »
Your country has been bending over for Islam for so long you probably enjoy it.  England=nation of cowards.

England is not a nation of cowards. They are a nation of lost people who have sold out to some kind of perverted version of the American dream. They are led by a bunch of worthless left wing liberal English elitist's who take their orders from a bunch of left-wing liberal Belgian turds.

There are plenty of people who would like deal with the problems, but the state and absolutely every system in Europe is stacked against them. If the EU could introduce thought police they would.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #44 on: September 04, 2014, 01:57:13 PM »
England is not a nation of cowards. They are a nation of lost people who have sold out to some kind of perverted version of the American dream. They are led by a bunch of worthless left wing liberal English elitist's who take their orders from a bunch of left-wing liberal Belgian turds.

There are plenty of people who would like deal with the problems, but the state and absolutely every system in Europe is stacked against them. If the EU could introduce thought police they would.

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Re: ISIS now threaten Putin!!!
« Reply #45 on: September 04, 2014, 02:04:01 PM »
We once had a president that these towel heads would have called "sir" even behind his back.



Reagan was a puppet shoe salesman. Hope this helps.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #46 on: September 04, 2014, 02:05:52 PM »
Hiroshima?
Nagasaki?

Dresden?
How many people would have died on both sides if there was no bomb dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?  It would have been many many more.  The Japanese were NOWHERE close to surrender or ending their war, they were ready to fight until the end.

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Re: ISIS now threaten Putin!!!
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2014, 02:07:52 PM »
I want tbombz to offer his anus raw to all the ISIS fighters. May they die of AIDS with no access to medication.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2014, 02:25:37 PM »
How many people would have died on both sides if there was no bomb dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?  It would have been many many more.  The Japanese were NOWHERE close to surrender or ending their war, they were ready to fight until the end.

You sure about that?
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Truman, Stalin, Churchill and Chiang Kai-Shek made the Postdam Declaration in July of 1945. The declaration was quite firm:

“We call upon the government of Japan to proclaim now the unconditional surrender of all Japanese armed forces, and to provide proper and adequate assurances of their good faith in such action. The alternative for Japan is prompt and utter destruction.”

For good measure, the Allies dropped leaflets explaining the terms of surrender in Japanese and broadcast them over the radio. Everyone was aware of the terms, and everyone knew the world was waiting for an answer.

In Tokyo, Premier Suzuki was questioned by reporters about Japan’s response. Behind the scenes the military refused “unconditional surrender” on principal, while some believed that Japan could make a land invasion so bloody that the allies would negotiate an armistice on Japan’s terms rather than demand total surrender. Estimates were being drawn: 10,000 aircraft and pilots could be trained for last-ditch kamikaze missions that would have wiped out 400 US transport boats; citizens were being armed with every kind of spare weapon, from swords to farming tools. One high-school girl was handed a leather-crafting awl and told to kill at least a single American soldier with it. The goal was to force the military into killing every man from 15 to 70 and every woman from 17 to 65, who were now elevated from mere citizens into the “Civilian Defense Force” of Japan.

Others, to their credit, saw that this would be madness, and advocated full surrender. The Emperor would eventually agree. But none of them were aware that the US wasn’t planning a land invasion. None of them could have imagined the alternative.

With this all occurring behind the scenes, Suzuki gave a boilerplate answer: “No comment.”

The Japanese verb for withholding comment is mokusatsu(suru), which you could better understand culturally as, “We’ll wait in silence until we can speak with wisdom.” The problem with this answer is that it has a number of connotations, including one that could best be understood as the more dismissive, “We will wait in silence until we can speak about something wise,” more in line with “This doesn’t even merit a response.” Japanese language is vague; the source of the wisdom here is supposed to be implied. Is the wisdom coming from reasoned discussion? Or are you refusing to answer a stupid question?

Tokyo reporters could have gone either way. They decided that the Premier said the Potsdam Declaration was “not worthy of discussion.” Coming from the Premier of the Japanese Government, the Allies saw this as an official refusal of terms. It seemed insane given the state of Japan, but so, too, were kamikaze pilots and an army of teenage girls armed with leather crafting tools. One could easily assume that the entire nation would destroy itself rather than surrender – that was, after all, what it had said for the entire duration of the war.

In Japan, the view is that Suzuki said they were thinking about it.

Hiroshima was bombed within 10 days.

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Re: Shizzo defends Isis, calls Americans "terrorists"
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2014, 02:26:20 PM »

Agree with you we can pick many historical  examples of the past. The challenge has always been to learn from the mistakes of the past not just by US government but many other regimes which we can point the finger of blame to.
 
I am talking mainly about the post World War 2 era and the establishment of the Geneva Convention and Human Rights which were designed precisely for that purpose.

There are rules of engagement, convention, the United Nations, protocol has to be followed by civilized nations before engaging in military action.  

And yes there is a fucking huge difference in moral compass and judgment by modern day US government, NATO & the UN than say a brutal dictator like Milosevic slaughtering his own people in Bosnia through ethnic cleansing.

There is a huge difference between removing dictators like Saddam Husein gassing his own people than 4 students blowing up the underground stations in London killing innocent civilians and "terrorists" driving planes into the twin towers killing people who literally had nothing to do with any political agenda.

Modern day post 2nd World War US governments have done far more good than bad in the world

The alternatives of not removing fuck heads like Saddam Husein, Kadafi and Milosevic would have been beyond comprehension and far worse than anything imaginable.

There is a reason they are the world Police Man and for very good reason.

Imagine if Saddam really did have access to Nuclear Weapons or Iran got to develop one

 


Why are you having a serious conversation with a troll?