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Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« on: September 07, 2014, 07:24:01 PM »
USA Today
Sept 7th
Atlanta Hawks controlling owner Bruce Levenson has self-reported to the NBA that he sent a racist e-mail in August 2012 and will sell his interest in the team.

Levenson reported the e-mail to the NBA in July, almost two years after it was sent but while the league was deep in litigation over the now-completed sale of the Los Angeles Clippers. The investigation was ongoing when Levenson decided to leave the team.

The e-mail, to Hawks President Danny Ferry, details Levenson's belief that the Hawks' fan base was too heavily African-American. (Scroll down for full text of the e-mail.)

"I wrote an e-mail two years ago that was inappropriate and offensive," Levenson said in a Hawks news release Sunday morning. "I trivialized our fans by making clichéd assumptions about their interests (i.e., hip hop vs. country, white vs. black cheerleaders, etc.) and by stereotyping their perceptions of one another (i.e., that white fans might be afraid of our black fans). By focusing on race, I also sent the unintentional and hurtful message that our white fans are more valuable than our black fans."
Levenson was one of the strongest critics among owners of Donald Sterling, the Clippers owner who was recorded making racist comments and quickly banned for life from the league.

Levenson is stepping down, effective immediately. Hawks CEO Steve Koonin, who joined the team in April after leading Turner Entertainment, will take over team operations.

The NBA will look for a buyer now. Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer set a high bar in purchasing the Clippers for $2 billion from the Sterling family, but the Hawks likely won't draw that level of interest.



FULL TEXT OF THE E-MAIL (via the Hawks):

From: Bruce Levenson

Sent: 8/25/2012 11:47:02 PM

Subject: Re: Business/Game ops

1. from day one i have been impressed with the friendliness and professionalism of the arena staff -- food vendors, ushers, ticket takers, etc. in our early years when i would bring folks from dc they were blown away by the contrast between abe pollin's arena and philips. some of this is attributable to southern hospital and manners but bob and his staff do a good job of training. To this day, I can not get the ushers to call me Bruce yet they insist on me calling them by their first names.

2. the non-premium area food is better than most arenas, though that is not saying much. i think there is room for improvement and creativity. Levy is our food vendor so we don't have much control but they have been good partners. i have wished we had some inconic offereing like boog's barbeque at the baseball stadium in balt.

3. our new restaurant, red, just opened so too early for me to give you my thoughts.

4. Regarding game ops, i need to start with some background. for the first couple of years we owned the team, i didn't much focus on game ops. then one day a light bulb went off. when digging into why our season ticket base is so small, i was told it is because we can't get 35-55 white males and corporations to buy season tixs and they are the primary demo for season tickets around the league. when i pushed further, folks generally shrugged their shoulders. then i start looking around our arena during games and notice the following:

-- it's 70 pct black

-- the cheerleaders are black

-- the music is hip hop

-- at the bars it's 90 pct black

-- there are few fathers and sons at the games

-- we are doing after game concerts to attract more fans and the concerts are either hip hop or gospel.

Then i start looking around at other arenas. It is completely different. Even DC with its affluent black community never has more than 15 pct black audience.

Before we bought the hawks and for those couple years immediately after in an effort to make the arena look full (at the nba's urging) thousands and thousands of tickets were being giving away, predominantly in the black community, adding to the overwhelming black audience.

My theory is that the black crowd scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a signficant season ticket base. Please dont get me wrong. There was nothing threatening going on in the arean back then. i never felt uncomfortable, but i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority. On fan sites i would read comments about how dangerous it is around philips yet in our 9 years, i don't know of a mugging or even a pick pocket incident. This was just racist garbage. When I hear some people saying the arena is in the wrong place I think it is code for there are too many blacks at the games.

I have been open with our executive team about these concerns. I have told them I want some white cheerleaders and while i don't care what the color of the artist is, i want the music to be music familiar to a 40 year old white guy if that's our season tixs demo. i have also balked when every fan picked out of crowd to shoot shots in some time out contest is black. I have even bitched that the kiss cam is too black.

Gradually things have changed. My unscientific guess is that our crowd is 40 pct black now, still four to five times all other teams. And my further guess is that 40 pct still feels like 70 pet to some whites at our games. Our bars are still overwhelmingly black.

This is obviously a sensitive topic, but sadly i think it is far and way the number one reason our season ticket base is so low.

And many of our black fans don't have the spendable income which explains why our f&b and merchandise sales are so low. At all white thrasher games sales were nearly triple what they are at hawks games (the extra intermission explains some of that but not all).

Regardless of what time a game starts, we have the latest arriving crowd in the league. It often looks and sounds empty when the team takes the floor.

In the past two years, we have created a section of rowdy college students that has been a big plus. And we do a lot of very clever stuff during time outs to entertain the crowd. Our kiss cam is better done than any in the league.

We have all the same halftime acts that other arenas have but i question whether they make sense. people are on their cell phones during half time. i wonder if flashing on the scoreboard "$2 off on hot dogs during halftime tonight" just as the half ends would be a better use of our halftime dollars and make the fans happier.

We do all the usual giveways and the fans are usually their loudest when our spirit crew takes the floor to give away t-shirts. It pisses me off that they will yell louder for a t-shirt then for our players.

Our player intro is flat. We manufacture a lot of noise but because of the late arriving crowd and the fact that a lot of blacks dont seem to go as crazy cheering (another one of my theories) as whites, it is not great. Even when we have just returned from winnng four straight on the road, i am one of the few people in the arena standing and cheering when our team takes the floor. Bob has kicked around ideas like having the starters coming down aisles rather than off the bench during intros. Sounds cool but may highlight all the empty seats at the start of games.

Not enough of our fans wear hawks jerseys to games. i have just begun to push for ideas like discount food lines for folks wearing jerseys, special entrances, etc. I think we need a committed and perhaps incentivized fan club. We need to realize atl is simply different than every other city. Just adopting nba best practices is not enough. we have to create our own.

I am rambling and could probably go on forever. If you have any specific areas you would like my thoughts on, let me know.

Best,

Bruce

ps -- I have cc'd todd and ed so they can chime in with additional or different thoughts.

Sent from my iPad


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/hawks/2014/09/07/bruce-levenson-racist-email-atlanta-owner-sell-team/15241591/

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2014, 07:41:22 PM »
Hmm. Very honest and true observations he mentioned. Don't think he was trying to be racist at all in fact it seemed as though he understood a lot of the sociological implications; however it is not PC to try to change your fan base from majority of blacks to whites. The dilemma is that it is a business so watcha gonna do?

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2014, 07:43:09 PM »
Somebody wants a billion dollar pay day too hahaha!
Didn't even read it and can come to that conclusion.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2014, 07:44:49 PM »
Every teams owner know this is true and this is the reason owners are moving their teams to the suburbs.
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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2014, 07:48:58 PM »
Hmm. Very honest and true observations he mentioned. Don't think he was trying to be racist at all in fact it seemed as though he understood a lot of the sociological implications; however it is not PC to try to change your fan base from majority of blacks to whites. The dilemma is that it is a business so watcha gonna do?

My thoughts exactly.  It sounds like he's talked to and understands the concerns of Atlanta's white population and is just trying to make the games less ghetto.  

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2014, 09:01:46 AM »
Somebody wants a billion dollar pay day too hahaha!

That's all this is. What he said isn't even that bad.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #6 on: September 08, 2014, 09:12:36 AM »
That's all this is. What he said isn't even that bad.

Neither was what Sterling said.

People can think they "got rid of him" all they want to...but as has been brought up in this thread before, it's a billion dollar payday.

That big-eared c0ck sucking commissioner and that Microsoft guy were played for suckers, as were the main stream media and "black leaders"

Even got to waste Court time on the matter.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #7 on: September 08, 2014, 09:46:21 AM »
LOL Atlanta being mostly a black region , i bet the rich black folk dont want no part of that team

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #8 on: September 08, 2014, 10:05:22 AM »
My thoughts exactly.  It sounds like he's talked to and understands the concerns of Atlanta's white population and is just trying to make the games less ghetto.  

I've been to a few Hawks games and thought it was a decent game experience.
FYI, I'm an older white guy and don't follow the NBA much.
I wasn't scared by the black folks and felt most of them acted like typical sports fans.
In fact,  I enjoyed having a different kind of sports experience .

It was obvious to me the key demographic they marketed to was urban/black, which I expected.
Most of the upper deck, inexpensive seats were more black ,while the closer seats and club area was at least 50% white.

But c'mon, the vast majority of NBA players are black, so wtf , the league is going to have an urban black culture slant.
Does anyone think it's odd when the Mexican soccer league features Hispanic  music and culture at their games?  Fuk No!

Do NASCR fans think it odd when country artists play at  event concerts and Larry the Cable Guy is the guest race starter? Fuk No.

I hate the idea that every sport and organization has to promote "diversity" just to act open to all.
A middle aged white due like me can buy a ticket to an NBA game and a young black dude can buy one for NASCAR.
The culture that dominates an event should  reflect the majority who attend.


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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #9 on: September 08, 2014, 10:09:17 AM »
LOL Atlanta being mostly a black region , i bet the rich black folk dont want no part of that team

I earn a generous salary.  No way in hell I'd buy season tickets for the NBA or NFL.  I have no issue with white fools footing the bill.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #10 on: September 08, 2014, 11:06:57 AM »
I earn a generous salary.  No way in hell I'd buy season tickets for the NBA or NFL.  I have no issue with white fools footing the bill.

I have had a season ticket for the ATL Thrashers ( NHL hockey) and Braves ( MLB baseball).
It was a fun experience but not worth it , when the games are on TV.
Now I simply buy the sports / league program package and see al the games in comfort on my big screen in my man cave.
No driving, no parking, no hassle.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #11 on: September 08, 2014, 02:40:50 PM »
IF this is true, then I do not see anything in this article that is really wrong. He's expressing his own real concerns about his business.

What a fucked up society we live in if he really is forced to sell his NBA team.


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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #12 on: September 08, 2014, 02:44:33 PM »
Seriously. This is fucked up.

Why not let the fans decide the fans of this guy's team with their choice to buy tickets to games and merchandise.

This is in effect a way to circumnavigate the FREE SPEECH amendment.

Imagine if all businesses operated this way. COACH and his personal training gym would have been shut down years ago!

Or what if you had a construction company, restaurant, ...etc

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #13 on: September 08, 2014, 03:06:28 PM »
His biggest mistake was being too direct and honest. He should have skirted around it and used language to ignore the elephant in the room. I kinda got the impression this guy is so NOT racist that he was 100% comfortable saying these things.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #14 on: September 08, 2014, 03:38:35 PM »
Hmm. Very honest and true observations he mentioned. Don't think he was trying to be racist at all in fact it seemed as though he understood a lot of the sociological implications; however it is not PC to try to change your fan base from majority of blacks to whites. The dilemma is that it is a business so watcha gonna do?

Of course he wasn't there was nothing racist just truth. Fucked.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2014, 03:40:39 PM »
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Regardless of what time a game starts, we have the latest arriving crowd in the league.
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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2014, 04:11:56 PM »
USA Today
Sept 7th
Atlanta Hawks controlling owner Bruce Levenson has self-reported to the NBA that he sent a racist e-mail in August 2012 and will sell his interest in the team.

Levenson reported the e-mail to the NBA in July, almost two years after it was sent but while the league was deep in litigation over the now-completed sale of the Los Angeles Clippers. The investigation was ongoing when Levenson decided to leave the team.

The e-mail, to Hawks President Danny Ferry, details Levenson's belief that the Hawks' fan base was too heavily African-American. (Scroll down for full text of the e-mail.)

"I wrote an e-mail two years ago that was inappropriate and offensive," Levenson said in a Hawks news release Sunday morning. "I trivialized our fans by making clichéd assumptions about their interests (i.e., hip hop vs. country, white vs. black cheerleaders, etc.) and by stereotyping their perceptions of one another (i.e., that white fans might be afraid of our black fans). By focusing on race, I also sent the unintentional and hurtful message that our white fans are more valuable than our black fans."
Levenson was one of the strongest critics among owners of Donald Sterling, the Clippers owner who was recorded making racist comments and quickly banned for life from the league.

Levenson is stepping down, effective immediately. Hawks CEO Steve Koonin, who joined the team in April after leading Turner Entertainment, will take over team operations.

The NBA will look for a buyer now. Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer set a high bar in purchasing the Clippers for $2 billion from the Sterling family, but the Hawks likely won't draw that level of interest.



FULL TEXT OF THE E-MAIL (via the Hawks):

From: Bruce Levenson

Sent: 8/25/2012 11:47:02 PM

Subject: Re: Business/Game ops

1. from day one i have been impressed with the friendliness and professionalism of the arena staff -- food vendors, ushers, ticket takers, etc. in our early years when i would bring folks from dc they were blown away by the contrast between abe pollin's arena and philips. some of this is attributable to southern hospital and manners but bob and his staff do a good job of training. To this day, I can not get the ushers to call me Bruce yet they insist on me calling them by their first names.

2. the non-premium area food is better than most arenas, though that is not saying much. i think there is room for improvement and creativity. Levy is our food vendor so we don't have much control but they have been good partners. i have wished we had some inconic offereing like boog's barbeque at the baseball stadium in balt.

3. our new restaurant, red, just opened so too early for me to give you my thoughts.

4. Regarding game ops, i need to start with some background. for the first couple of years we owned the team, i didn't much focus on game ops. then one day a light bulb went off. when digging into why our season ticket base is so small, i was told it is because we can't get 35-55 white males and corporations to buy season tixs and they are the primary demo for season tickets around the league. when i pushed further, folks generally shrugged their shoulders. then i start looking around our arena during games and notice the following:

-- it's 70 pct black

-- the cheerleaders are black

-- the music is hip hop

-- at the bars it's 90 pct black

-- there are few fathers and sons at the games

-- we are doing after game concerts to attract more fans and the concerts are either hip hop or gospel.

Then i start looking around at other arenas. It is completely different. Even DC with its affluent black community never has more than 15 pct black audience.

Before we bought the hawks and for those couple years immediately after in an effort to make the arena look full (at the nba's urging) thousands and thousands of tickets were being giving away, predominantly in the black community, adding to the overwhelming black audience.

My theory is that the black crowd scared away the whites and there are simply not enough affluent black fans to build a signficant season ticket base. Please dont get me wrong. There was nothing threatening going on in the arean back then. i never felt uncomfortable, but i think southern whites simply were not comfortable being in an arena or at a bar where they were in the minority. On fan sites i would read comments about how dangerous it is around philips yet in our 9 years, i don't know of a mugging or even a pick pocket incident. This was just racist garbage. When I hear some people saying the arena is in the wrong place I think it is code for there are too many blacks at the games.

I have been open with our executive team about these concerns. I have told them I want some white cheerleaders and while i don't care what the color of the artist is, i want the music to be music familiar to a 40 year old white guy if that's our season tixs demo. i have also balked when every fan picked out of crowd to shoot shots in some time out contest is black. I have even bitched that the kiss cam is too black.

Gradually things have changed. My unscientific guess is that our crowd is 40 pct black now, still four to five times all other teams. And my further guess is that 40 pct still feels like 70 pet to some whites at our games. Our bars are still overwhelmingly black.

This is obviously a sensitive topic, but sadly i think it is far and way the number one reason our season ticket base is so low.

And many of our black fans don't have the spendable income which explains why our f&b and merchandise sales are so low. At all white thrasher games sales were nearly triple what they are at hawks games (the extra intermission explains some of that but not all).

Regardless of what time a game starts, we have the latest arriving crowd in the league. It often looks and sounds empty when the team takes the floor.

In the past two years, we have created a section of rowdy college students that has been a big plus. And we do a lot of very clever stuff during time outs to entertain the crowd. Our kiss cam is better done than any in the league.

We have all the same halftime acts that other arenas have but i question whether they make sense. people are on their cell phones during half time. i wonder if flashing on the scoreboard "$2 off on hot dogs during halftime tonight" just as the half ends would be a better use of our halftime dollars and make the fans happier.

We do all the usual giveways and the fans are usually their loudest when our spirit crew takes the floor to give away t-shirts. It pisses me off that they will yell louder for a t-shirt then for our players.

Our player intro is flat. We manufacture a lot of noise but because of the late arriving crowd and the fact that a lot of blacks dont seem to go as crazy cheering (another one of my theories) as whites, it is not great. Even when we have just returned from winnng four straight on the road, i am one of the few people in the arena standing and cheering when our team takes the floor. Bob has kicked around ideas like having the starters coming down aisles rather than off the bench during intros. Sounds cool but may highlight all the empty seats at the start of games.

Not enough of our fans wear hawks jerseys to games. i have just begun to push for ideas like discount food lines for folks wearing jerseys, special entrances, etc. I think we need a committed and perhaps incentivized fan club. We need to realize atl is simply different than every other city. Just adopting nba best practices is not enough. we have to create our own.

I am rambling and could probably go on forever. If you have any specific areas you would like my thoughts on, let me know.

Best,

Bruce

ps -- I have cc'd todd and ed so they can chime in with additional or different thoughts.

Sent from my iPad


http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/hawks/2014/09/07/bruce-levenson-racist-email-atlanta-owner-sell-team/15241591/

QFT. There is nothing racist about what he wrote.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2014, 05:28:36 PM »
The Owner has legitimate concerns about his billion dollar business. He is making factual observations based on his experiences, trends, and analysis.

If he is made to sell his team, that is crazy.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #19 on: September 08, 2014, 05:32:54 PM »
Maybe this was a stunt, giving a reason to sell but saying that he had said some things. A very shrewd business maneuver.

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Re: Bruce Leveson Will Sell Atlanta Hawks
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2014, 11:32:08 AM »
I have to wonder if someone wasn't trying to blackmail him with that info.
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