all contest, whether its on the pro level or just state competitions r all determined by how deep the class is that year.just like the nationals,some guys place 5th one year n then comeback the next and win the whole show,reason being the year he placed 5th how a sick class with awesome guys that year,the following year it wasnt deep at all. arnold had lou and franco chasing him,zane had robby and mentzer,haney had gaspari,labrada,taylor ect,yates had flex,levrone,nasser,ronnie had pretty much same guys as yates chasing him. heath has some really good guys chasing him n once phils body does a victor martinez n the receptors shut down its all over,hes getting up there in age as well so we shall see