Was the 99 Olympia Ronnie the best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?

[NarcissisticDeity]

I agree... just like the overall look, flow and separation of 99 better.

I think Ronnie looks better fuller , he could carry a good amount of size well but his conditioning ( and later his lines ) suffered for it. If 99 had 01/98s conditioning I would say it was his best.

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .

You could see his decline in conditioning as the years progressed.

[Lustral]

The AC in my opinion is his best because he's just as conditioned as 98 but he retained his ' fullness ' a tad more which is why they said he looked bigger than his 245-247 lbs suggested. But the point stands if 99 competed against 98/01 he would lose to both.

Firstly, title says "best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?" - I've now said this two or three times.


Secondly, I don't need an old English schmoe to tell me what the best look is. I can decide for myself.  We are treating this like the best physique is something objective. It isn't. A lot of people said Arnold 74 which I find ridiculous but that is up to them. I stick with Haney 91, Dorian 93 (though his 96 gp look was great, not sure on O) and Ronnie 99.

I used to think Ronnie 03 just cos everyone said it and he was 287lbs (therefore better than 250 or whatever in 99) but his back had such crisp detail even in 02 that was lost in 2003. 2005 was better than 2003 imo, hard as mayor of bodybuilding in front row with 2003 size and a smaller waist and a quad sweep that could eclipse the sun.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Firstly, title says "best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?" - I've now said this two or three times.


Secondly, I don't need an old English schmoe to tell me what the best look is. I can decide for myself.  We are treating this like the best physique is something objective. It isn't. A lot of people said Arnold 74 which I find ridiculous but that is up to them. I stick with Haney 91, Dorian 93 (though his 96 gp look was great, not sure on O) and Ronnie 99.

I used to think Ronnie 03 just cos everyone said it and he was 287lbs (therefore better than 250 or whatever in 99) but his back had such crisp detail even in 02 that was lost in 2003. 2005 was better than 2003 imo, hard as mayor of bodybuilding in front row with 2003 size and a smaller waist and a quad sweep that could eclipse the sun.

Firstly, title says "best physique to ever step on the Olympia stage?" - I've now said this two or three times.

These threads tend to diverge and go off on tangents. I personally think 1998 was his best because he was dead-on the money. 2003 he looked insane but his lines were awful , his gut was crazy and his conditioning paled in comparison to 98 and 99

[Lustral]

These threads tend to diverge and go off on tangents. I personally think 1998 was his best because he was dead-on the money. 2003 he looked insane but his lines were awful , his gut was crazy and his conditioning paled in comparison to 98 and 99

Good I just want your opinion and not Mc Gough's. His writing style is horrendous, he has a selective memory (ignores all his bullshit predictions that never came through) and .... his writing style is horrendous. My 10 year old son has a better grasp of the English language yet Mc Gough holds himself as some wordsmith, a literary pioneer. He's just a schmoe battling his sexual desires and erections to get a few words on the page before he can jerk off to men in thongs.

98/99 were both amazing (no homo), 2003 was crazy but when I look back his back lacked that insane level of detail that made the mass all the more extraordinary. That was Ron's thing - huge, conditioned and crazy separation. As he got to insane sizes he still came in ripped and and obviously huge but some detail was lost. His quads looked like turnips in 03 and 04, in 05 they were great.

[Shockwave]

98 > 99 > 01 > 03.

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Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .

[Lustral]

Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .

why not post his back shots, fdb and front relaxed while tensed? I don't like ronnie's fls if wondering think he should drop chest a  bit. Most muscular also missing though not sure if that was mandatory at start of his reign.

[Danimal77]

Here you go chief...
Peter Mcgough around 8 minutes.
99 was Ronnie's best Olympia
in 98 he was a bit flat - hard, dry all that stuff
but a tad flat.

And Flex winning in 99 is laughable. He's lucky Cormier
didn't get 2nd. Peter says right here 99 was better and Ronnie got straight 1's.
As far as 2001 ASC goes I'm cool with someone liking that look better.
Hell, I'm cool if you like Kenny Jones better. It's just a subjective opinion no matter how
much you believe your right.

Wonder if he left out Dorian Yates on purpose when talking about those who won the Mr. Olympia several times.

[Danimal77]

I think Ronnie looks better fuller , he could carry a good amount of size well but his conditioning ( and later his lines ) suffered for it. If 99 had 01/98s conditioning I would say it was his best.

Quote Peter McGough Flex Magazine Jan 2001

RONNIE COLEMAN : ( 264lbs As big as a house , but holding water. In '98 , he was shredded and bone dry at 250 pounds. Last year ( 1999 ) he was 257 pounds but NOT as sharp as '98. This year ( 2000 ) at 264 pounds , he's not as sharp as 99 , which would seem to say that Ronnie is better at a lighter weight .

You could see his decline in conditioning as the years progressed.

The same can be said about almost every pro-bodybuilder from 1994 and onwards (trying to compete with the likes of Yates).

[Shockwave]

The same can be said about almost every pro-bodybuilder from 1994 and onwards (trying to compete with the likes of Yates).

dorian never really sacrificed his conditioning for mass though. Only time it was questionable was 94 and 97 when he was injured. And 97 he was still in condition, he just looked torn up.

Ronnies condition went downhill more and more the heavier he got.

Only in 94 was he watery.

[Lustral]

dorian never really sacrificed his conditioning for mass though. Only time it was questionable was 94 and 97 when he was injured. And 97 he was still in condition, he just looked torn up.

Ronnies condition went downhill more and more the heavier he got.

Only in 94 was he watery.

05 he looked better conditioned that 00-04.

[Shockwave]

05 he looked better conditioned that 00-04.

Yes, but thats because he tried to come in smaller and tighter than 04. And there was no going back, when he tried to recreate his 98 form post 06 O loss (07 maybe?) He just looked like ass.

He basically cast aside his shape and conditioning for myscular bulk, and the judges rewarded that because they had never seen that amount of muscle... unfortunately imo he was just a freak shadow of his former self.

[BodyConnoisseur]

Freakiest maybe , best physique ever on the Olympia stage ? not even close .

I have to agree. There's a long list of competitors that I believe looked better

[Lustral]

Yes, but thats because he tried to come in smaller and tighter than 04. And there was no going back, when he tried to recreate his 98 form post 06 O loss (07 maybe?) He just looked like ass.

He basically cast aside his shape and conditioning for myscular bulk, and the judges rewarded that because they had never seen that amount of muscle... unfortunately imo he was just a freak shadow of his former self.

06 he had lat issues but tell me Cutler won on Sat finals - he didn't. I dunno, 05 look was good, aesthetic. But freaky.

[Shockwave]

06 he had lat issues but tell me Cutler won on Sat finals - he didn't. I dunno, 05 look was good, aesthetic. But freaky.

well, yeah, i wont argue that... but it was just a shadow of 98-99. Basically he regressed continously after he upped the dose.

05 was acceptable and he soundly beat the competition, but it was far inferior to 98-99 and even 03. Its just thay his competition was pretty much non existant at that point either.

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[Lustral]

well, yeah, i wont argue that... but it was just a shadow of 98-99. Basically he regressed continously after he upped the dose.

05 was acceptable and he soundly beat the competition, but it was far inferior to 98-99 and even 03. Its just thay his competition was pretty much non existant at that point either.

I said earlier 99 was his best. But I liked 05 look, could've been lighting though.


Bit off the convo but Cutler looked sensational in 01.

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[Pet shop boys]

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Ronnie 1997 he took 9th for having Wolfs size calves that year, But the rest of him was probably the best ever

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[Lustral]

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Yeah but those arnold pics were taken in a schmoe's bedroom with overhead lighting. I look great in gym mirrors and feel suicidal when I look in home mirror.

[Neptune100]

IMO, from the 90s up till now

98/01ASC Coleman
93 Yates
93 Wheeler
92 Levrone
99 Cormier

[Shockwave]

I said earlier 99 was his best. But I liked 05 look, could've been lighting though.


Bit off the convo but Cutler looked sensational in 01.

No i agree, my point was he was just a shadow of 98/99.
Cutler did look great in 01 but hes another one who ruined himself trying to play the size game IMO.

[Lustral]

No i agree, my point was he was just a shadow of 98/99.
Cutler did look great in 01 but hes another one who ruined himself trying to play the size game IMO.

From 03 (ie every show after that bar maybe 03 Arnold and 09 O) he looked worse, ruined his lines. 

I think 240-260 is max 99.9999% of people of normal height can look good as bodybuilders. If you get 300lb 5ft10 bbbers in 2050 they will look shit, just bigger, softer versions of 90s pros.

[pellius]

well yes but everything else was glory upon glory

Holy fuck! When you see him now sometimes it's easy to forget just what a freak he was.

[Hulkster]

for the record, as far as 99 O. vs 98 O goes, Peter McGough has publicly stated on video (and in his article of the best Mr. O physiques ever)

that Ronnie's 99 olympia was better than his 98 olympia physique:


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=418439.0




however, he does feel that the AC Ronnie was better than either.