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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2014, 09:48:26 PM »
Pointless rematch.... he will win again, I wouldntbe paying to watch it


Pointless fight.... Unless he is fighting PAC who cares...
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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2014, 03:06:49 AM »

Pointless fight.... Unless he is fighting PAC who cares...
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his upcoming mandatories, thurman and lara, are far more dangerous than manny.  notice how he closed the door on them combining the belts in one defense and left the door open for manny.  he would have had to vacate which would have made him look even more like a bitch in 2015.  

if there is nothing wrong with his speed, he will time manny coming in.  i don't get the pacman hype.  his arms are too short for the philly shell defense.  he'll runn repeatedly into the ring.  maybe manny gets a SD on workrate but I'm not sure they'd let that happen in vegas.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2014, 03:38:41 AM »
his upcoming mandatories, thurman and lara, are far more dangerous than manny.  notice how he closed the door on them combining the belts in one defense and left the door open for manny.  he would have had to vacate which would have made him look even more like a bitch in 2015.  

if there is nothing wrong with his speed, he will time manny coming in.  i don't get the pacman hype.  his arms are too short for the philly shell defense.  he'll runn repeatedly into the ring.  maybe manny gets a SD on workrate but I'm not sure they'd let that happen in vegas.

That's all sounds good but clearly mayweather doesn't see it that way, which is why he ducked manny
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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2014, 03:42:05 AM »
his upcoming mandatories, thurman and lara, are far more dangerous than manny.  notice how he closed the door on them combining the belts in one defense and left the door open for manny.  he would have had to vacate which would have made him look even more like a bitch in 2015.  

if there is nothing wrong with his speed, he will time manny coming in.  i don't get the pacman hype.  his arms are too short for the philly shell defense.  he'll runn repeatedly into the ring.  maybe manny gets a SD on workrate but I'm not sure they'd let that happen in vegas.

Mayweather brings so much money to vegas I doubt floyd would ever lose a decision fight that was close. Personally the Manny fight won't happen and at this point who really wants to see it? That fight should of happened back in 2010 at latest. Mayweather was not scared but concearned manny was using PED's. If the fight happened tomorrow instead of maidana( floyd would win by decision against manny), both fighters are past their prime but manny is more past his prime then floyd is. I would say mayweather would win that fight by a comfortable decision. If the fight happened in 2007-2008 I would say manny had the edge. Manny just seems to bored with the sport.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2014, 03:45:09 AM »
The Tyson that walked into the ring versus Douglass was about as close as perceived invincibility as you could get.

I think the Vegas odds were something like 42-1 which makes it one of the greatest sports upsets of all time.

I think the odds wee even crazier then that. I want to say 81-1 so anybody who bet on douglas got PAID!

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #30 on: September 13, 2014, 03:47:47 AM »
I think the odds wee even crazier then that. I want to say 81-1 so anybody who bet on douglas got PAID!
watch Tyson's on the road documentary.

Tyson knocked Douglas down Douglas got an 11 count
When he knocked Tyson down Tyson got a 8 count google it
So in reality Tyson won that fight but as we know boxing is the most corrupt sport of all time
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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #31 on: September 13, 2014, 04:06:29 AM »
Mayweather brings so much money to vegas I doubt floyd would ever lose a decision fight that was close. Personally the Manny fight won't happen and at this point who really wants to see it? That fight should of happened back in 2010 at latest. Mayweather was not scared but concearned manny was using PED's. If the fight happened tomorrow instead of maidana( floyd would win by decision against manny), both fighters are past their prime but manny is more past his prime then floyd is. I would say mayweather would win that fight by a comfortable decision. If the fight happened in 2007-2008 I would say manny had the edge. Manny just seems to bored with the sport.

it will still sell over 2.5 ppv and probably break his canelo fight ppv.  the casual fans are idiots.  they'll buy it if he is going for 50-0.  i'll bet anyone on that one.   

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2014, 04:17:36 AM »
watch Tyson's on the road documentary.

Tyson knocked Douglas down Douglas got an 11 count
When he knocked Tyson down Tyson got a 8 count google it
So in reality Tyson won that fight but as we know boxing is the most corrupt sport of all time

I didn;t know that! seems like tyson would have knocked out the ref for something like that. I never heard any controversy over that. G thang you think Tyson should of won the douglas fight? was it really a 11 count?

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2014, 04:23:40 AM »
it will still sell over 2.5 ppv and probably break his canelo fight ppv.  the casual fans are idiots.  they'll buy it if he is going for 50-0.  i'll bet anyone on that one.   

I have no doubt it would still break the canelo fight record but the point is this fight should have happened when both fighters were more in their prime! The fight is 5 years too late if it really happened sure people would still buy it and it would be one of the biggest fights ever but nothing like it could of been if they had fought in 2009-2010. That fight would of been crazy if they fought around 08-09.

That Froch-groves -2 fight was fucking huge! i think 80,000+ went to see that fight, so a manny/floyd fight is still the biggest fight to be made but that's sad thinking about it. I think GGG vs. andre ward would be a great fight or andre ward or GGG vs. kovelev would be a great fight but andre and GGG would have to come up in weight of kovelev would have to come down alot of people want to see those fights.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2014, 04:24:07 AM »
I didn;t know that! seems like tyson would have knocked out the ref for something like that. I never heard any controversy over that. G thang you think Tyson should of won the douglas fight? was it really a 11 count?

I didn't even notice the count, will have to check it out again.  People always said a big man with a jab could keep Tyson at bay.  I guess if you took away the drama leading into the fight it may have been 50.50.  who knows?    

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #35 on: September 13, 2014, 04:32:05 AM »
I didn;t know that! seems like tyson would have knocked out the ref for something like that. I never heard any controversy over that. G thang you think Tyson should of won the douglas fight? was it really a 11 count?
Don't take my word for it YouTube it
ANDcount for yourself both knockdowns
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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #36 on: September 13, 2014, 06:11:02 AM »
Don't take my word for it YouTube it
ANDcount for yourself both knockdowns
Noticed it, but people and boxing fans were so shocked to see Tyson go down against a supposed bum, that everything was forgotten... 99,9% didn't notice the count at that time, i'm sure... Probably fixed, just like laughable Rumble In The Jungle and many many Ali fights...

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #37 on: September 13, 2014, 06:50:47 AM »
I saw a interview with Tyson along time ago and he said he gave buster no credit or chance so he didn't even train for that fight. I think he was into substance abuse at that time and just was looking for what was next after Buster and got caught! This does happen in boxing,Tyson is not the first and won't be the last to get dropped by some lower level fighter somebody didn't take seriously.End of the day a fight is a fight and nobody has a good enough excuse not to train for a fight.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #38 on: September 13, 2014, 10:37:59 AM »
Mesmorph is correct, Tyson got jobbed in that fight

Floyd will school Maidana tonight, he figured him out half way through the fight last time, what can Maidana bring to the fight this time around ?
Floyd will also get help from the ref you watch, would love to see Floyd ko'd, but don't think it will happen-  would love to be wrong on this one, but can't see it happening

Again, too bad Floyd didn't fight a few decades ago where he could have met the 5 kings - Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Duran and Benitez.... he would have 5 losses on his resume from these legends

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2014, 10:47:44 AM »
Mesmorph is correct, Tyson got jobbed in that fight

Floyd will school Maidana tonight, he figured him out half way through the fight last time, what can Maidana bring to the fight this time around ?
Floyd will also get help from the ref you watch, would love to see Floyd ko'd, but don't think it will happen-  would love to be wrong on this one, but can't see it happening

Again, too bad Floyd didn't fight a few decades ago where he could have met the 5 kings - Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Duran and Benitez.... he would have 5 losses on his resume from these legends
he probably would have beat duran and benitez

btw hagler was too big

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2014, 11:07:30 AM »
he probably would have beat duran and benitez

btw hagler was too big

hagler 160 wanted to fight ray leonard 147 after the hearns fight.  most likely that fight would have taken place at 154.  it would have been no different fmw jr fighting canelo.  

also, those guys went 15 rounds.  

hearns by ko
leonard by size 5'10 and the same beating he put on fmw sr 5'11 - 6'0 and his philly shell vs fmw jr 5'8

i believe he would counter hagler to a SD.  hagler was a pressure fighter but not a big puncher like hearns  

he beats duran and benitz.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #41 on: September 13, 2014, 11:14:35 AM »
hagler 160 wanted to fight ray leonard 147 after the hearns fight.  most likely that fight would have taken place at 154.  it would have been no different fmw jr fighting canelo.  

also, those guys went 15 rounds.  

hearns by ko
leonard by size 5'10 and the same beating he put on fmw sr 5'11 - 6'0 and his philly shell vs fmw jr 5'8

i believe he would counter hagler to a SD.  hagler was a pressure fighter but not a big puncher like hearns  

he beats duran and benitz.

Duran was a beast at lightweight and Castillio gave Floyd massive problems at that weight.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2014, 11:16:57 AM »
Duran was a beast at lightweight and Castillio gave Floyd massive problems at that weight.

fmw beats any mexican fighter in his prime except for salvador sanchez if he could have grown to light weight.

the first fight was an UD with Castillo.  He popped FMW a bit like Cotto but FMW won that one on an UD also if I remember the cards.  Maidana was really an UD but people turned it into a SD/Draw b/c of Maidana's tactics, not boxing.    

Maidana II is only FMW jimmy rigging the belts, so the bodies don't call for a mandatory from Thurman 147 #1 contender or Lara 154 # 1 (Canelo robbery wasn't on the books as far as belts go) contender

 Since Judah, FMW don't fight young black fighers who can box and punch.  He'll fight Khan before he steps in the ring with Brook if he is looking for a UK money fight. 

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2014, 11:36:23 AM »


bitches!

they grabbed guerrero (who the fuck knew him and what mexican base did he have vs canelo?) when he was mandatory?  

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #45 on: September 13, 2014, 01:50:13 PM »
I saw a interview with Tyson along time ago and he said he gave buster no credit or chance so he didn't even train for that fight. I think he was into substance abuse at that time and just was looking for what was next after Buster and got caught! This does happen in boxing,Tyson is not the first and won't be the last to get dropped by some lower level fighter somebody didn't take seriously.End of the day a fight is a fight and nobody has a good enough excuse not to train for a fight.

Agree but in reality Tyson won by knockout... But was robbed
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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #46 on: September 13, 2014, 02:38:13 PM »
fmw beats any mexican fighter in his prime except for salvador sanchez if he could have grown to light weight.

the first fight was an UD with Castillo.  He popped FMW a bit like Cotto but FMW won that one on an UD also if I remember the cards.  Maidana was really an UD but people turned it into a SD/Draw b/c of Maidana's tactics, not boxing.    

Maidana II is only FMW jimmy rigging the belts, so the bodies don't call for a mandatory from Thurman 147 #1 contender or Lara 154 # 1 (Canelo robbery wasn't on the books as far as belts go) contender

 Since Judah, FMW don't fight young black fighers who can box and punch.  He'll fight Khan before he steps in the ring with Brook if he is looking for a UK money fight. 

Duran is not Mexican, retard .

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #47 on: September 13, 2014, 02:40:31 PM »
Anyone getting this on PPV?

Having a few peeps over tonight and thinking about pulling the trigger and getting the fight.

Haven't bought one since last De Le Hoya and Tyson fights.

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #48 on: September 13, 2014, 03:01:17 PM »
#1 contender or Lara 154 # 1 (Canelo robbery wasn't on the books as far as belts go) contender

 
i thought we agreed that wasnt a robbery but a fuck up on laras part

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Re: Mayweather v Maidana 2- predictions?
« Reply #49 on: September 13, 2014, 04:33:10 PM »
Duran would MAUL Floyd, he'd beat Floyd the worst out of any of the mentioned guys, beat Benitez ?  No way that happens, IF Benitez shows up in shape and didn't train on coke and dope, he would decimate Floyd, Ray Mancini gave a good interview about how Floyd would do in his era.... he said ALL those guys would beat Floyd

Floyd couldn't handle the pressure, that shoulder roll is only going to last so long, all those guys stretch Floyd