Coach was right! Obama covering for ISIS

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ISIS can 'muster' between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters, CIA says

"Washington (CNN) -- A CIA assessment puts the number of ISIS fighters at possibly more than three times the previous estimates."

www.cnn.com

I believe we like a 6 to 1, up to a 10 to 1 advantage over our enemy?

That means we need 300,000 troops to really beat ISIS.   How many people here believe we need to send 300,000 troops in, to the ground?

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How many troops should obama dedicate to stopping ISIS?  How many of our troops should be going tent to tent, in Syria, Iraq, and anywhere else they are?

Give us a number.   100,000 troops?   200,000?   Don't be vague - you feel you know better than obama and his 475 troops or whatever, so people, share your idea.  How many troops should obama send to get dirty and bloody in terror rebel camp hunts?

Mmmm, let's see. I'm no military stragitist and the closest one that I could think of on here would be HH6. But since the first priority of the president is to protect the country. So that would mean to do WHATEVER IT TAKES. But since we don't really have a president. I don't see much happening. Hopefully I'm wrong. 

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I'm no military stragitist

So that would mean to do WHATEVER IT TAKES.

I'm 100% cool with people shitting on obama or his policy.

But he's talked to the Joint chiefs, he has WAY more intel than we ever will, he knows way more about their location and numbers and vulnerabilities than we do.

Obama may not be a military strategist, but he has the best strategists IN THE WORLD giving him advice.  And he says 500 specialists (that he's admitting) and air strikes will do the job.  I think obama sucks, but not for this.   

numbers wise, a classic overwhelming battle win would require 200,000 to 300,000 troops for a mess of " 20,000 and 31,500 fighters".   But they're a relatively small group, and it sounds like the top military minds in the world say 500 guys researching/calling in airstrikes, and a shitload of firepower from the air CAN get the job done.

I'm no military stragitist and the closest one that I could think of on here would be HH6. But since the first priority of the president is to protect the country. So that would mean to do WHATEVER IT TAKES. But since we don't really have a president. I don't see much happening. Hopefully I'm wrong. 

Um, how do you know that "whatever it takes" doesn't mean tons of airstrikes and the expertise of 500 special forces?  Do you have any idea how much damage the USA could do to 30,000 men with
1) unlimited $, training, weapons - they're the best of the best
2) unlimited air support
3) support from the nations govts where ISIS is hiding out?

I think you're criticizing his ISIS policy on strictly reflex here lol.

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I'm 100% cool with people shitting on obama or his policy.

But he's talked to the Joint chiefs, he has WAY more intel than we ever will, he knows way more about their location and numbers and vulnerabilities than we do.

Obama may not be a military strategist, but he has the best strategists IN THE WORLD giving him advice.  And he says 500 specialists (that he's admitting) and air strikes will do the job.  I think obama sucks, but not for this.   

numbers wise, a classic overwhelming battle win would require 200,000 to 300,000 troops for a mess of " 20,000 and 31,500 fighters".   But they're a relatively small group, and it sounds like the top military minds in the world say 500 guys researching/calling in airstrikes, and a shitload of firepower from the air CAN get the job done.


Um, how do you know that "whatever it takes" doesn't mean tons of airstrikes and the expertise of 500 special forces?  Do you have any idea how much damage the USA could do to 30,000 men with
1) unlimited $, training, weapons - they're the best of the best
2) unlimited air support
3) support from the nations govts where ISIS is hiding out?

I think you're criticizing his ISIS policy on strictly reflex here lol.

I'm criticizing him based on past history. It took two beheading and public outcry before he even made a move. You don't get it. This clown literally thinks he's the smartest person in world. His ego is too big to listen to anyone. Like I said. Some military experts said they could be wiped out in as little as 90 days. BTW, from what I remember, he fucked over the best military stragitists. If these guys are so great, explain Bengazi. Oh wait, I forgot "what difference does it make?"

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Why is ISIS a threat to a country 1000s of miles away? You lot have been listening to the media blowing it's own trumpet again. It's not really making news anywhere else. Just another Islam shithole piping up. Nobody gives a shit. Only the countries that think they're important does.

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Number of ISIS fighters has swelled to as many as 31,500, CIA says (Obama's fault)
fox news ^ | 9/12/2014 | fox news
Posted on September 12, 2014 at 6:28:28 AM EDT by tobyhill

The CIA said Thursday that the number of Islamic State fighters has grown to as many as three times previous estimates; a day after President Obama announced he is drastically expanding the U.S. military campaign against the militants.

A spokesperson for the agency told Fox News that new assessments show that the militant group can muster between 20,000 and 31,500 fighters across Iraq and Syria.

The spokesperson said the new figures were determined after a review of “all-source intelligence reports” on the group from May to August.

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I'm criticizing him based on past history. It took two beheading and public outcry before he even made a move. 

He's been ordering airstrikes for at least 6 weeks.  That's "making a move".

And should the US declare war on every nation where outlaws kill Americans?   You want to enlist to invade Tijuana?

Which repubs (including you?) were saying 3 months ago that we needed 300,000 troops invading for ISIS?   Anyone?  Link to quote.  Or just a bunch of "I dont know what I would have done, but obama sucks..." kinda thing?

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He's been ordering airstrikes for at least 6 weeks.  That's "making a move".

And should the US declare war on every nation where outlaws kill Americans?   You want to enlist to invade Tijuana?

Which repubs (including you?) were saying 3 months ago that we needed 300,000 troops invading for ISIS?   Anyone?  Link to quote.  Or just a bunch of "I dont know what I would have done, but obama sucks..." kinda thing?

HAHAHA no shit.

They are a day late and a dollar short with their canned responses to the real issues until they want to whine and cry about Obama.

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I'm criticizing him based on past history. It took two beheading and public outcry before he even made a move. You don't get it. This clown literally thinks he's the smartest person in world. His ego is too big to listen to anyone. Like I said. Some military experts said they could be wiped out in as little as 90 days. BTW, from what I remember, he fucked over the best military stragitists. If these guys are so great, explain Bengazi. Oh wait, I forgot "what difference does it make?"

That's not true you moron, he ordered 153 airstrikes many before the beheadings. Benghazi was like the other embassies, dangerous. He isn't a part of team America moron.

You idiots want to risk more lives to accomplish nothing, exactly what IRAQ and afghanistan accomplished, is the threat gone? no, it's worse now. The ideology is fueling this, people in those regions need to be tasked with eliminating this.

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That's not true you moron, he ordered 153 airstrikes many before the beheadings. Benghazi was like the other embassies, dangerous. He isn't a part of team America moron.

You idiots want to risk more lives to accomplish nothing, exactly what IRAQ and afghanistan accomplished, is the threat gone? no, it's worse now. The ideology is fueling this, people in those regions need to be tasked with eliminating this.

Its worse now that imam ayatollah Obama has stepped in to it

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That's not true you moron, he ordered 153 airstrikes many before the beheadings. Benghazi was like the other embassies, dangerous. He isn't a part of team America moron.

You idiots want to risk more lives to accomplish nothing, exactly what IRAQ and afghanistan accomplished, is the threat gone? no, it's worse now. The ideology is fueling this, people in those regions need to be tasked with eliminating this.

With your post direct at :

Moron
Moron
Idiots

I have to agree.   

Of course there is no excuse or explanation other than "Waaaahhhhh!!!  Obama!!!  Wahhhhhh!!!"  that you can expect from the idiots.

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Its worse now that imam ayatollah Obama has stepped in to it

That's definitely the reason.

[Coach is Back!]

He's been ordering airstrikes for at least 6 weeks.  That's "making a move".

And should the US declare war on every nation where outlaws kill Americans?   You want to enlist to invade Tijuana?

Which repubs (including you?) were saying 3 months ago that we needed 300,000 troops invading for ISIS?   Anyone?  Link to quote.  Or just a bunch of "I dont know what I would have done, but obama sucks..." kinda thing?

yeah? has it stopped them? I just read somewhere another beheading was imminent. I guess the short answer would be "NO".

[240 is Back]

yeah? has it stopped them? I just read somewhere another beheading was imminent. I guess the short answer would be "NO".

It's sure putting a damped on birthday plans for some of their leadership.

The top aide to the Islamic State's head leader was killed along with two other senior ISIS militants in an airstrike in the Ninewa province, the Iraqi Defense Ministry confirmed Thursday.

While NBC News is reporting that senior security officials confirmed that a U.S. airstrike carried out the attack, Iraqi Army General Arm Babaker Zebari claims it was an Iraqi warplane that killed the member of leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's inner circle, Abu Hajar al-Suri, in ISIS, also known as ISIL, stronghold of Tal Afar just west of Mosul.

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That's not true you moron, he ordered 153 airstrikes many before the beheadings. Benghazi was like the other embassies, dangerous. He isn't a part of team America moron.

You idiots want to risk more lives to accomplish nothing, exactly what IRAQ and afghanistan accomplished, is the threat gone? no, it's worse now. The ideology is fueling this, people in those regions need to be tasked with eliminating this.

At some point airstrikes no longer work. You have to be on the ground......you really out to read some history.

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yeah? has it stopped them? I just read somewhere another beheading was imminent. I guess the short answer would be "NO".

You expected it that it would completely stop? when has that ever been the case in history. Nazi's still exist you moron.

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You expected it that it would completely stop? when has that ever been the case in history. Nazi's still exist you moron.

We're talking about countries with combined populations of over 100 million... ISIS hiding among them. 

You're right... the only way to "completely stop" it would be to vaporize hundreds of millions of people.

I'd happily nod in respect to anyone on getbig who said, 3-4 months ago, that we need 300,000 troops on the ground to get ISIS.  But without that quote, anyone shitting on obama for "only" using airstrikes + 500 special forces + local military cooperation, well, tell us YOUR plan. 

I'm saying 500 guys can make a real mess of things for the bad guys - particularly because all they have to do is point a laser at what they see for GPS coordinates and it's vaporized from above.


again, coach, if you have said, 3 months ago, that we need 300,000 trooops on the ground for ISIS, I'll give you props.  Same with any politicians that said it.  links to quotes, please.  It's easy to play backseat drivers with "obama sucks" - I want to give props to those with foresight, not those who perpetually bitch aobut obama but never have any solutions of their own. 

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yeah? has it stopped them? I just read somewhere another beheading was imminent. I guess the short answer would be "NO".

dude, we're dropping hundreds of bombs on them.  we're sending 500 specialists in to kill them, show local govt forces where to attack, and direct airstrikes.  

No, we're never going to stop every beheading, as long as there are "reporters" willing to enter Syria (practically a hostile nation, hiding saddam's WMD, right?) and "hang out" with rebel terror leader groups, "sniffing around" for a good story.  No, you can send a million troops, and you'll never stop undercover reporters from putting themselves into the most dangerous places in teh world.  K&R is centuries old, and most countries pay.  You want to send a million troops into harms way because 2 reporters (and you read maybe a 3rd) decided to play snoopy in the most dangerous parts of a foreign country - to spy on their violent rebels?  What the fck?  

[Coach is Back!]

You expected it that it would completely stop? when has that ever been the case in history. Nazi's still exist you moron.

Of course not. But then again that's a reason why we should have never pulled completely out.

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Of course not. But then again that's a reason why we should have never pulled completely out.

You shoudl have never went in the first place.

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Of course not. But then again that's a reason why we should have never pulled completely out.

"Completely pulling out" was agreed upon by Bush.  He signed it and Obama honored it.

Signed by President George W. Bush in 2008. It established that U.S. combat forces would withdraw from Iraqi cities by June 30, 2009, and all U.S. forces will be completely out of Iraq by December 31, 2011

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.%E2%80%93Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

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Mmmm, let's see. I'm no military stragitist and the closest one that I could think of on here would be HH6. But since the first priority of the president is to protect the country. So that would mean to do WHATEVER IT TAKES. But since we don't really have a president. I don't see much happening. Hopefully I'm wrong. 

So if you were the president nukes would be hitting ISIS now?

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How often does coach get his ass handed to him? every single post?

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How often does coach get his ass handed to him? every single post?

Yep but he wont remember it.

I think his brain resets every night.

Overload.

[LurkerNoMore]

How often does coach get his ass handed to him? every single post?

Somewhere between ad nauseum and infinity.