Why do most of the IFBB sanctioned contests have shitty prize money?

[Ronnie Rep]

shizzo i agree, good thread/good post

the issue is that bodybuilding has dug itself into this niche, gay trench

and the people "behind the scenes" (as i've heard you say before re: get big's movers and shakers and your interactions with them via AOL AIM) who run the ifbb truly don't care about money. They make some money in fact, but for the mass majority they are mega schmoes

this is why kai keeps on trucking; why wolf's closest to touching #1 was 2007 (not last year); why they appeal to an all gay crowd (mostly, except about half of get big. i really believe that. that the only heterosexual super fans of bodybuyilding reside here, and we all have some other issues, like shizzo you are an alcoholic and have parinoid delusions, i am a sociopath, junior is a fantasist (in the best possible way, he actually does make a lot of money and wasn't born iwth a silver spoon but he's a fantasist still) --I love all of you at the end of hte day and dig into people for fun, but we're all fucked up here.

when the IFBB phases kai out

appeals to middle east by giving teh gift placements they gave to Kai over to rami

and really embraces phil and secondly Wolf while he's still competing and treats them as the FACES of bodybuilding

and changes the thongs back to trunks a la 74 etc

then we have a solid start

oh and all of the people who run IFBB need to be replaced because you shouldn't be able to suck a few dicks and get a 2nd place year after year when  you look like ABSOLUTE FUKCING SHIT LIKE KAI DOES.

EVEN IN 2012 I DON'T GIVE A SINGLE FUCK HE LOOKS LIKE GOD DAMNED SHIT. NO FLOW. NO FUCKING FLOW. WTF. NO TRAPS. THAT HEAD.

THAT HEAD!

THAT HEAAASAAD!

THE PONY TAIL!

WTF!

he's a predator

he's "the predator"!

the sexual predator

better give him SECOND! cause he let me,. MR IFBB EXECUTIVE, face fuck him ! and kai enjoyed it


FUCKKKKK KAI
however we could just not do anything and BB will not exist in 10 years. rami will take it to middle east. Watch. the $ is there. he is a celebrity there. watch.

FUCK KAI

Don't forget about guy's like me, Howard, Wes, N.J., Coach, etc. Clinging on to the past. 70's 80's and 90's Bodybuilding, when you went into the gym and had camradarie with all the brothers in iron. I miss those days now it sucks. Fuck 24 hour Fitness and Planet Fitness and their ilk. Don't forget to watch Eagles and Colts tonight

[Howard]

This.
And additionally, no one is making their living as a competitor just like no one is making a living trying to become Miss America. Pageantry is a hobby. Just like building model ships and kayaking. You might enter a contest and win prize money for being really fucking good at your hobby, but that's definitely not why you do it.

Meanwhile, why do you give a shit? You don't even lift.

It's because pro bodybuilding doesn't get any major media coverage.
No pay per view or even ESPN 8, the ocho ,covers it at 3 a.m. now.
Now, with NBC sports network covering the O , the sport might have a shot?

[King Shizzo]

I am going to take a nap now.

I hope that adults can keep this on topic.

Remember, only ignorant people troll 100% of the time.

[Grape Ape]

I watch all Patriots games.

Quarterback play is mostly determined by the effectiveness of the O-line.

They traded Logan Mankins (I was pissed) and are dealing with compatibility issues.

Brady has pure talent. Eli was lucky.

Mankins trade was a head scratcher.  O line IS important, and has always helped Brady as he has had more time to throw than anyone.

But Brady is missing spots where he has time.

[Ronnie Rep]

Like I said in the thread before Vince had the vision/dream/love/money to take Bodybuilding mainstream. But it all went away with the Zahorian trial.

[King Shizzo]

Like I said in the thread before Vince had the vision/dream/love/money to take Bodybuilding mainstream. But it all went away with the Zahorian trial.

Bodybuilding will never be mainstream as long as anabolic steroids are illegal.

Bodybuilding is a cult following.

However, Crossfit is proving that people are interested in fitness.

Is it bodybuilding vs. Fitness now?

[Ronnie Rep]

Bodybuilding will never be mainstream as long as anabolic steroids are illegal.

Bodybuilding is a cult following.

However, Crossfit is proving that people are interested in fitness.

Is it bodybuilding vs. Fitness now?

When I say mainstream I mean similar to Pro Wrestling. Certainly not like mainstream sports, but bigger than it is now, with more exposure to the public. Vince had the juice to do it. I agree with the steroid issue, but the general public has to know steroids are rampant in the NFL, but it doesn't stop them from watching.

[bigmc]

When I say mainstream I mean similar to Pro Wrestling. Certainly not like mainstream sports, but bigger than it is now, with more exposure to the public. Vince had the juice to do it. I agree with the steroid issue, but the general public has to know steroids are rampant in the NFL, but it doesn't stop them from watching.

it used to be on espn

[King Shizzo]

it used to be on espn

You used to be a good poster.

Things change.

[bigmc]

You used to be a good poster.

Things change.

you never were a good poster

some things never change

[King Shizzo]

you never were a good poster

some things never change

I took a nap. You stayed by the keyboard.

Damn gingers.

[Simple Simon]

I took a napI blacked out after a litre bottle . You stayed by the keyboard.

Damn gingers.

fixed

[bigmc]

I wept at the dark despair of my existence . You stayed by the keyboard.

Damn gingers.

[the trainer]

I am going to take a nap now.

I hope that adults can keep this on topic.

Remember, only ignorant people troll 100% of the time.

You dont do any kind of physical activity yet you want to take a nap what a fucking loser you are.

[King Shizzo]

Lol!!! You Brits.....


Such an inferior race.

[bigmc]

im a fat alcoholic

[King Shizzo]

Why are you mad?

You started it.

[El Diablo Blanco]

Its a crazy lifestyle for little gain for 99.9999999% of the people that do it.  I knew a guy who cooked his own "GH" in a lab and injected himself just to win a plastic trophy.  He fucked up his endocrine system but when he talks about his win he is grinning ear to ear, of course he doesn't attribute none of it to him and his wife not being able to have kids or that his body is fucked for life and he's only 30.

[Var City]

I watch all Patriots games.

Quarterback play is mostly determined by the effectiveness of the O-line.

They traded Logan Mankins (I was pissed) and are dealing with compatibility issues.

Brady has pure talent. Eli was lucky.

Jesus again agreeing with Shinzo


I have to say this guy knows his football and basketball as well as anyone

And who in their right mind here is really saying Eli doofus manning owns Brady?

If not for a miracle catch Brady has 2 titles as is talked about as GOAT now

He will b eventually

Eli hit the jackpot . Straight up  lucked out by good coughlin coaching

Excellent O line yet young

Plaxico

Etc

Helmet catch

Etc

That ridiculous 2 point conversion

Etc

Eli is not even best QB from his draft class

Rivers is

Brady is possibly GOAT QB

But honestly Olympia is around corner let's focus on this

I added my opinion before

People began saying

"Eli>Brady"  

(Written by a lifelong giants fan and a realist)

[BodyConnoisseur]

As a Pro, I compete for personal satisfaction..more prize money would be nice but I didn't get into this expecting to become rich off competitions. It's the lifestyle I love.

[OTHstrong]

.........

True, but we need to evolve a little. I completely understand why NPC competitors lose money trying to gain a pro card, but why do average pros compete for a shit purse?

Is that the definition of the addiction these people have? Willing to lose money just to step on stage?

your logic is flawed and not only that but you have no idea what you are talking about.

To boot your assumptions are dead wrong and painfully ignorant.

LET ME EDUCATE THIS THREAD.

1. PROS DO NOT COMPETE FOR THE PURSE MONEY

2. MOST PRO SHOWS MAKE NO MONEY

3. PROMOTORS DO NOT GAMBLE ON A PRO SHOW TO MAKE A PROFIT

4. SUPPLEMENT COMPANIES NEED TO BE OFFERED SOMETHING IN RETURN TO PUT MONEY IN, THEY JUST DO NOT GIVE THERE MONEY AWAY CAUSE THE PURSE IS SMALL.



Shizzo, where is the money going to come from? How do they offer more purse? from where?

attendance? sponsors? what do sponsors get in return?

Do competitors care? No they don't if the pro shows had no purse money, you would still see the exact same competitors competing, wake up shizzo

[MCWAY]

he did,but it was too circus wwf/wwe like,the characters,the announcers were embarrassing..the guys tried they really did,most turned there back early in there ifbb or recent pros and few veterans careers to go 4 it....ifbb was running strong then..best of the best..

Which announcers?

Greg Lewis and Tom Platz did the '91 show.

Vince McMahon, Tom Platz, and Bobby "The Brain" Heenan did the '92 (and final) show.

[Voice of Doom]

I dont see the point of any pro trying to compete in anything other then the Olympia or Arnold Classic.  The promoters of these small shows obviously make a decent profit, as they continue to hold the contests year after year.

I am assuming that the only reason most pros compete in these "small shows" is to qualify for the Olympia, or to get a name.

$10,000 dollars (before taxes) for first place, is just pathetic.

The sponsors should be to blame as well. All of these tightwad supplement companies need to put a little more back into the industry that makes them.

Who is the current rep for the pros?

There needs to be a minimum of 25k for first place, in all IFBB sanctioned, pro contests.

This nonsense sounds like Communism.  Greedy businessmen screwing over the little guy.  What's needed are Price controls and spreading the wealth... just take more money from the "rich" guy...we know what's the best use for their money.   

Onward Soviet!

[The Abdominal Snoman]

THE IRON MAN PRO RAN FOR DECADES and was one of the best lit /stage shows/photographs were world class from this show and it was all of 10,000,,every pro wanted the title tho.v taylor.wheeler,cormier,cutler,to name a few won it many times...

I've heard rumors that the Ironman was such a big show because of the Eye's Wide Shut party that took place afterwards...Some top schmo billing from that area where guys got paid very well for their services...Didn't that UFO/Aliens guy run it awhile back? That dude supposedly was knee deep in the occult...

Bad hair, spray tan and most likely wearing a glittery thong=Aliens

[Grape Ape]

Jesus again agreeing with Shinzo


I have to say this guy knows his football and basketball as well as anyone

And who in their right mind here is really saying Eli doofus manning owns Brady?

If not for a miracle catch Brady has 2 titles as is talked about as GOAT now

He will b eventually

Eli hit the jackpot . Straight up  lucked out by good coughlin coaching

Excellent O line yet young

Plaxico

Etc

Helmet catch

Etc

That ridiculous 2 point conversion

Etc

Eli is not even best QB from his draft class

Rivers is

Brady is possibly GOAT QB

But honestly Olympia is around corner let's focus on this

I added my opinion before

People began saying

"Eli>Brady"  

(Written by a lifelong giants fan and a realist)

This too will be written by a lifelong Giants fan and realist:

In the context of the two Super Bowls they played against each other  Eli >> Brady.

In XLII, the Pats brought the most prolific offense the NFL had ever seen up until last year's Broncos.

In that game, the stats were as follows:

Manning:  19/34, 255 yds, 2TD,  1 Int, QBR 76.5
Brady:      29/48  266 yds, 1 TD, 0 Int  QBR 53.8

Statistically, Manning was better.  He also engineered a 10 minute drive to start the game, and the pass to Burress was perfect, especially given the context of the play.  Yeah, he got lucky on the Tyree play for that catch, but he still eluded the defenders and made the play.

Brady numbers reflect what happens to any quarterback when the O line doesn't hold up its end of the bargain.

In SB XLVI the stats were as follows:

Manning:  30/40, 296 yds, 1TD,  0 Int, QBR 82.1
Brady:      27/41  276 yds, 2 TD, 1 Int  QBR 70.3

Again, statistically better.

In addition, Brady threw the famous drop to Welker.  Welker should have caught the ball, but the throw did not have to be put where it was.  He was wide open.  Conversely, Eli's throw to Manningham, once again with the Super Bowl on the line, was perfection.

So, in the context of those two games, Eli owned Brady.  The stats, plays, and game results back it up.  It has nothing to do with overall career or current situation.  Giants own the Pats in the Superbowl.