article explains why bb/pl is frowned upon by upper middle class americans

[Earl1972]

the upper class "looks down" on muscles because that's the one thing they can't just buy

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[DanielPaul]

You're on the lower end of the middle-middle class tier.

And social class isn't just about income. It's about background, education, profession, etc.

im pretty happy where I'm at financially, and my "class" status.  Our vehicles are only a couple of years old and almost paid off and we owe about 7 more years on a 180,000 dollar house, I'm not rich and do not anticipate being rich but I'm happy with my status.  Most people who have substantial wealth worry themselves stupid trying to hold on to there money, fuck that you can't take it with you.

[Lustral]

Good for you bro. My ex-wife took all of my substantial wealth and now I have to earn it again.

I would be on the news if that shit happened me. Fight on man and conceal wealth next time.

[NightTrain]

My wife and I have a total combined income of about 135,000 per year and we live in tx where the cost of living is much cheaper than most so you tell me what social class I'm in.

Envy you chief...  made 210k last year, wife at home and still not much to show for (both financially and in homemakery lolo) ... Socal suck expenses..

But back to the subject...

Here's my thought process...

A good portion of the "upper middle class" is basically the former "nerds" from high school combined with a lot of liberal doucherie...

Basically resentment... plus they think they know "better" health wise... yet the first one to jump to plastic surgery and shit...

[ProudVirgin69]

Excellent thread.  I feel that most are driven to bodybuild out of some feeling of inadequacy.  Why else would one bother with the backbreaking weights, incessant eating, and illegal drugs?  Chances are, upper-middle class folks are able to derive their self-worth from their accomplishments and so are only inclined to exercise for health purposes.  Hence the emphasis of cardio over weights

[NightTrain]

Excellent thread.  I feel that most are driven to bodybuild out of some feeling of inadequacy.  Why else would one bother with the backbreaking weights, incessant eating, and illegal drugs?  Chances are, upper-middle class folks are able to derive their self-worth from their accomplishments and so are only inclined to exercise for health purposes.  Hence the emphasis of cardio over weights

great post chief...

This an extremely interesting subject; class division and their health-to-lifestyle choices. Hard to not got the fuck back to Clubber Lang vs Rock the fuck Balboa... lolol...

but I think history repeats itself..in a way....


but seriously; and not paranoidly... it's absolutelyfuckingly part of the liberal agenda to annihilate the male model and ideal. It has no needs and causes a threat in a socialist environment. High testosterone individuals should only be at the top. The masses should be estrogenzed anc compliant.

[Parker]

great post chief...

This an extremely interesting subject; class division and their health-to-lifestyle choices. Hard to not got the fuck back to Clubber Lang vs Rock the fuck Balboa... lolol...

but I think history repeats itself..in a way....


but seriously; and not paranoidly... it's absolutelyfuckingly part of the liberal agenda to annihilate the male model and ideal. It has no needs and causes a threat in a socialist environment. High testosterone individuals should only be at the top. The masses should be estrogenzed anc compliant.

Agreed.

[_aj_]

Excellent thread.  I feel that most are driven to bodybuild out of some feeling of inadequacy.  Why else would one bother with the backbreaking weights, incessant eating, and illegal drugs?  Chances are, upper-middle class folks are able to derive their self-worth from their accomplishments and so are only inclined to exercise for health purposes.  Hence the emphasis of cardio over weights

I don't know...I am in the "upper middle class" segment. Close to the top of my field, multiple degrees, respected community member, father, friend. Financially secure. Yet, here I am talking bb, training like a man half my age and using hormones. What's my deal? I like looking good, and I want to look better. Plus I feel better on the gear: injuries heal quicker, etc. but let's face facts: I want big muscles and all that comes with it. I want to be "that guy" that literally has everything. The guy that all men envy and women want. That would be really cool...

[Natural Man]

the perfect leading man known as the alpha male is tall , slightly muscular but not too much, in shape, which means good health -long life lexpectancy as a leader- . He s also good looking, charismatic, strong and dominate at work, his woman, his kids and will give them power and stability as a legacy once he gets old. This is why he can seduce all the women he wants among the best looking lustful women as women want the strongest male to provide for them and eventual offspring.

He is a mix of great genes, great parents, great education.

[Natural Man]

I don't know...I am in the "upper middle class" segment. Close to the top of my field, multiple degrees, respected community member, father, friend. Financially secure. Yet, here I am talking bb, training like a man half my age and using hormones. What's my deal? I like looking good, and I want to look better. Plus I feel better on the gear: injuries heal quicker, etc. but let's face facts: I want big muscles and all that comes with it. I want to be "that guy" that literally has everything. The guy that all men envy and women want. That would be really cool...

You re unsatisfied because even if you have what many inferior men want -and can easily get nowadays-, you re still not the alphaest of them all and you know it when looking up at people who have more money, better looking women/ kids etc. You re trapped into what is known as the nonsensical animal condition...welcome in hell.



THE CORE DILEMMA OF MODERNITY
At the beginning of the third millennium, we humans in
technological societies are not sure how to proceed. Ever
since the Enlightenment, people in the West have pursued
happiness by trying to eliminate the causes of suffering, on
the sensible belief that this would lead to a world that was,
if not utopia for all, at least much happier for most. Sub-
sequent advances in technology have made life easier, safer
and more pleasurable and comfortable to a degree that
could not have been imagined. The suffering caused by
hunger, pain, sickness, boredom, and even the early death
of loved ones have been largely eliminated from the experi-
ences of many people. The triumph of technology over
most of the specific causes of human suffering is nothing
short of miraculous. But the deeper hope that this would
lead to general happiness is not only unfulfilled, it is almost
a cruel joke.

Natural selection and the elusiveness of happiness
http://rstb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/359/1449/1333.full.pdf

[the trainer]

the perfect leading man known as the alpha male is tall , slightly muscular but not too much, in shape, which means good health -long life lexpectancy as a leader- . He s also good looking, charismatic, strong and dominate at work, his woman, his kids and will give them power and stability as a legacy once he gets old. This is why he can seduce all the women he wants among the best looking lustful women as women want the strongest male to provide for them and eventual offspring.

He is a mix of great genes, great parents, great education.

You are a twink so you cannot participate in this conversation its for big bodybuilders only.

[MAXX]

the upper class "looks down" on muscles because that's the one thing they can't just buy

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that's a good point.

[Natural Man]

You are a twink so you cannot participate in this conversation its for big bodybuilders only.

looks like i just did.

BTW people on steroids  are artificially confident, they re not real alpha men.

[Natural Man]

the upper class "looks down" on muscles because that's the one thing they can't just buy

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No thats because they think it takes extreme intelligence and work to dominate others instead of slaving away your life lifting stuff for others. Most of them are opportunistic smart hard workers or sons and girls of  opportunistic smart hard workers.

And upper class and elites now discovered that being rich and healthy is possible, so next generations of elites are going to be rich AND healthy...

[Beckenbauer]

Sounds like an excuse to not lift weights. Wanna see his pic when he was the biggest. And he provides only 2 examples, who lift to get big and who only do posh sports. And 100% his wife will gush a fountain watching fitness guys.
I bet this guy was a perma bulker.

[the trainer]

A wealthy man idea of physical activity.

[loco]

BTW people on steroids  are artificially confident, they re not real alpha men.

"Do you know why Americans love guns, Mr. Hertz? And it's got nothing to do with all that phallic mumbo-jumbo, "cockin' your gun." No, Hertz, people love guns because America is a land of opportunity, where a poor man can become rich, and a pussy can become a tough guy, if he's got a gun in his hand. Now, I'm hopin' you're not just a pussy with a gun in your hand." - Hammerson - Shoot 'Em Up

[MAXX]

No thats because they think it takes extreme intelligence and work to dominate others instead of slaving away your life lifting stuff for others. Most of them are opportunistic smart hard workers or sons and girls of  opportunistic smart hard workers.

And upper class and elites now discovered that being rich and healthy is possible, so next generations of elites are going to be rich AND healthy...

when a bald rich fat guy in the latest ferrari sees a guy walking on the street with a sick body but only 5 bux in his bank he will get jealous. that's a fact

most guys would choose having this life


over this


regardless of bank account.

[_aj_]

most guys would choose having this life


over this


regardless of bank account.

I disagree. We want it all. I will take the bank account first and the Zyzz body second. Thanks.

[MAXX]

I disagree. We want it all. I will take the bank account first and the Zyzz body second. Thanks.

Not in the real world. Rich guys usually don't have the mindset to get the zyzz body

and vice versa the guy with the zyzz body dont have the skills/mindset to become rich.

there are some exceptions to the rule I guess...

[Beckenbauer]

Reality: hot girl will marry the rich ugly guy and keep a playboy as a side dish.

[anabolichalo]

Reality: hot girl will marry the rich ugly guy and keep a playboy as a side dish.

but the rich man lives a good life and the playboy is barely hanging on

[MAXX]

but the rich man lives a good life and the playboy is barely hanging on

the rich guy hates himself and his apperance and knows deep down his wife doesn't love him. he's depressed and hates himself for that. great life.

driving a ferrari and having a large living space wont be much of a comfort

[anabolichalo]

the rich guy hates himself and his apperance and knows deep down his wife doesn't love him. he's depressed and hates himself for that.

and the pooor guy wants to kill himself every morning as his alarm clock wakes him at 6 am to go to his shit job

[_aj_]

Wealthy people are among the most disciplined people in the world.

Of course everyone will now post examples of rich playboys and girls who inherited their wealth but the average guy making upper six-figures or low sevens is typically a very hard worker and incredibly disciplined.

And we are disciplined enough to train consistently and adhere to a good diet if we feel it is in our best interest.