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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #50 on: September 21, 2014, 05:44:00 PM »
because mr Olympia is not about who has the best physique
kai shit physique got man handled by phil. Wtf you talking about willis

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #51 on: September 21, 2014, 06:56:21 PM »
True, but visually, it was close. Phil may have gotten straight firsts, but when you look at them, Phil needs to come in like better version of 2011-2012. Just to show that he is dominant. Because it is not just Kai he must worry about, but Rhoden, Ramy, Wolf, and even possibly Cedric.

Haha Cedric ain't doing shit

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #52 on: September 21, 2014, 06:59:01 PM »
Haha Cedric ain't doing shit
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Don't you say that!!! Don't you say that!!! Have faith!!!

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #53 on: September 21, 2014, 07:03:08 PM »
Because no flow. Put together like a bag of shit and came in smooth. Watery. Thick skin

Yep

How a lot of people always say the Phil hype yet I don't get the Kai hype, he looks like shit! Dexter is ten times the bber of Kai

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #54 on: September 21, 2014, 07:07:01 PM »
I honestly think the jokes on us. Every year we get excited about the changing of the guard but after 50 years you can count on one hand the times the reigning title holder has been defeated. We really should appreciate Dexter s win in 08 more.  It's not about the best physique,  and I'm not sure it ever has been. Teh schmoes have already had their lust of Kaiquenched, they know he can be had for a price, Phil on the other hand is now the top fantasy boy toy.  If he breaks, they'll move on. Kulco is next in line to be rewarded,  the same way Cutler and Branch have been rewarded for their life long commitment.

We'll all be disappointed next year too,  prep yourself now.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #55 on: September 21, 2014, 07:13:29 PM »
I honestly think the jokes on us. Every year we get excited about the changing of the guard but after 50 years you can count on one hand the times the reigning title holder has been defeated. We really should appreciate Dexter s win in 08 more.  It's not about the best physique,  and I'm not sure it ever has been. Teh schmoes have already had their lust of Kaiquenched, they know he can be had for a price, Phil on the other hand is now the top fantasy boy toy.  If he breaks, they'll move on. Kulco is next in line to be rewarded,  the same way Cutler and Branch have been rewarded for their life long commitment.

We'll all be disappointed next year too,  prep yourself now.
Kuclo couldn't get dried out even if they hanged him in a barn full of tobacco for two weeks.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #56 on: September 21, 2014, 07:18:44 PM »
Kuclo couldn't get dried out even if they hanged him in a barn full of tobacco for two weeks.

I don't disagree however the Mr. O isn't about who has the best physique; my best guess is its about who can keep the money train moving forward.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2014, 07:22:33 PM »
This.

I was amazed that the President of the IFBB gave HIMSELF the first Joe Wierder lifetime achievement award.  What a ridiculous circle jerk.

You forgot his personal piggybank NPC nonprofit pays his fat son's studio $1M a year to publish a magazine no one sees or reads. 

Kai is just an apple floating in a cesspool.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2014, 07:24:27 PM »
I don't disagree however the Mr. O isn't about who has the best physique; my best guess is its about who can keep the money train moving forward.
The problem is, they cannot justify Kuclo if he subpar...they can't leapfrog him over those who are far better in terms of conditioning, shape, freakiness, separation.
Sure, they can give him a win over Beyeke, particularly when I believe a friend of his was either judging the show or was a promoter, but when you have something like the Arnold or O, you have to be on point (unless you are Branch)...
If Kuclo is on point, I can see them justifying him.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2014, 07:26:03 PM »
Kuclo couldn't get dried out even if they hanged him in a barn full of tobacco for two weeks.

He's getting better

Maybe u should take a trip down to dallas and see for yourself , he has ways to go but the judges aren't to like him

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #60 on: September 21, 2014, 07:28:33 PM »
For those who really think that 'the business' cares about Kai's past doings, then why the hell would 'the business' give him his Arnold titles?  Same fucking shit. 

Kai looked great at prejudging and went downhill from there.

Phil's turned into a strange little man with a complex of some kind.

My point: they gotta start taking away the damn mics from everybody.

In the end, the state of pro bodybuilding is as it always was.  Take it or leave it. 

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #61 on: September 21, 2014, 07:28:59 PM »
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Kuclo couldn't get dried out even if they hanged him in a barn full of tobacco for two weeks.

 ;D

Lonnie tried to sell Kuclo off as smart and something special but Chris A was like WTF!  Yes, Kai is a bit like Frankstein's monster, just a bunch of pieces, but at least he isn't glazed Texas cowhide like Kuclo.  Jay got more veins than Steve.






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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #62 on: September 21, 2014, 07:31:03 PM »
He's getting better

Maybe u should take a trip down to dallas and see for yourself , he has ways to go but the judges aren't to like him

He let Arlington to train in the AC in Plano.  I have family in Murphy and Frisco.

He should train with bbers instead of a new wife every 2-3 years.  Dude is worst than Coach.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #63 on: September 21, 2014, 07:41:29 PM »
The problem is, they cannot justify Kuclo if he subpar...they can't leapfrog him over those who are far better in terms of conditioning, shape, freakiness, separation.
Sure, they can give him a win over Beyeke, particularly when I believe a friend of his was either judging the show or was a promoter, but when you have something like the Arnold or O, you have to be on point (unless you are Branch)...
If Kuclo is on point, I can see them justifying him.

We, the fans, keep acting like there is accountability. There isn't and there never has been.  Looking at the top ten who's going to be left competing when it's time to pass the torch, everyone ahead of him is closer to the end of the career rather than the beginning, outside of Ramy.
I could care less who won, but Heath shouldn't have gotten a clean victory, Kai, despite his past or how he looked at the night show, was better in pre judging. He should have showed in the same condition for the finals; the fact that he'd couldn't/wouldn't/didn't says everything. If he can't keep the same conditioning for 48 hours, after a lifetime of competing,  than he didn't deserve to win. Or he's in the wrong sport.

 That said if it was decided it was Kulcos time he'd win, period.

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #64 on: September 23, 2014, 09:10:48 PM »
Look, I think Dickerson was the worst Mr. O ever, but his homosexuality I could care less about because quite honestly I don't ever expect to meet the guy.  He dropped by the gym I used in the 80s once when I wasn't around.  Was told he was openly chasing wangs while there and the general comment was "Gross!" except among those who were homosexual.  Supposedly an otherwise nice guy but I still think he stunk as Mr. Olympia.

Bob Paris would have made an excellent Mr. Olympia with a physique, classic good looks and demeanor far superior to the Kai of today. 

Again, Kai is a slut. 

Read in an old magazine that Dickerson was one of a set of triplet boys. You think his brother is gay, if homosexuality is genetic (one of his brothers drowned at age 20)?

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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #65 on: September 23, 2014, 09:30:52 PM »
;D

Lonnie tried to sell Kuclo off as smart and something special but Chris A was like WTF!  Yes, Kai is a bit like Frankstein's monster, just a bunch of pieces, but at least he isn't glazed Texas cowhide like Kuclo.  Jay got more veins than Steve.







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Re: Why Didn't Kai Greene Beat Phil Heath?
« Reply #66 on: September 23, 2014, 09:43:46 PM »
He let Arlington to train in the AC in Plano.  I have family in Murphy and Frisco.

He should train with bbers instead of a new wife every 2-3 years.  Dude is worst than Coach.

He doesn't train with his wife I see him all the time, went back to old school lifting with two other bbers