Author Topic: 2014 Olympia - Why was Dorian Yates not @ the O?  (Read 7247 times)

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 11:42:15 PM »
What if he was right and they were just refugee camps to keep civilians safe during the war?

I don't care what he thinks, I'm just stating why he will never win a show connected to the IFBB.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #26 on: September 25, 2014, 11:48:11 PM »
What if he was right and they were just refugee camps to keep civilians safe during the war?

A friend of my parents was in one of those camps when she was a teenager. She didn't view it as a refugee camp where she held for her safety. She had a faded telltale tattooed number on her forearm as proof.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #27 on: September 25, 2014, 11:49:53 PM »
I don't care what he thinks, I'm just stating why he will never win a show connected to the IFBB.
I think it was more along the lines of "don't believe everything you are told or read"
not that it did not happen , eg: don't be a sheep which is pretty much inline with his training philosophy  ;)  

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #28 on: September 25, 2014, 11:55:35 PM »
I think it was more along the lines of "don't believe everything you are told or read"
not that it did not happen , eg: don't be a sheep which is pretty much inline with his training philosophy  ;)  

As I said, I don't care what he said or didn't say, he's a public person and as such should now the sensitivity of this subject.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2014, 12:05:27 AM »
As I said, I don't care what he said or didn't say, he's a public person and as such should now the sensitivity of this subject.
No he isnt, he can do and say what he likes, he wouldnt have said it when he was Mr O.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2014, 12:17:47 AM »
No he isnt, he can do and say what he likes, he wouldnt have said it when he was Mr O.

By winning mr O and being a business leader he has become a form of public figure.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2014, 12:18:54 AM »
By winning mr O and being a business leader he has become a form of public figure.

However he is now free to do what he likes

Consequences dont affect him.


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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2014, 12:23:18 AM »
However he is now free to do what he likes

Consequences dont affect him.

Consequences actually affect him, reduced goodwill (hard to measure) and the severed ties with the IFBB.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2014, 12:32:16 AM »
I think it was more along the lines of "don't believe everything you are told or read"
not that it did not happen , eg: don't be a sheep which is pretty much inline with his training philosophy  ;)  
Actually, it was this and this.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2014, 12:36:37 AM »
Consequences actually affect him, reduced goodwill (hard to measure) and the severed ties with the IFBB.

But he isnt concerned with those consequences, so they are not consequences.

He has enough money to not to have to bother with the IFBB.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2014, 01:18:54 AM »
What if he was right and they were just refugee camps to keep civilians safe during the war?

What if you were one of those refugees burning in one of those "safe" ovens, or having your bones broken over and over again to see how many times they could heal, or being injected with poison to see how your body would react? Thought so asshole.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #36 on: September 26, 2014, 01:39:19 AM »
torn muscles, detached muscles, nope. judges would not overlook them.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #37 on: September 26, 2014, 04:59:51 AM »
I mean if they overlooked phils abs this year they might overlook other things also :D
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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #38 on: September 26, 2014, 05:15:04 AM »
Actually, it was this and this.

Yup exactly what I said - don't believe everything you read to be true - that number of 6 million has been shown to be false
and by Jewish researchers so not anti Semites.. He is right in this case , history is a lie , no where does he say it did not happen.

The Adolf Hitler movie he refers to - things like that are educational so don't see an issue with that comment ?

So now if you question things that you are told are true even though there is plenty of evidence to show things are not quite as they seemed
and what we have had forced into us to be true , then one gets labeled a racist if they dear speak up on such matters ?

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #39 on: September 26, 2014, 05:37:31 AM »
Yup exactly what I said - don't believe everything you read to be true - that number of 6 million has been shown to be false
and by Jewish researchers so not anti Semites.. He is right in this case , history is a lie , no where does he say it did not happen.

The Adolf Hitler movie he refers to - things like that are educational so don't see an issue with that comment ?

So now if you question things that you are told are true even though there is plenty of evidence to show things are not quite as they seemed
and what we have had forced into us to be true , then one gets labeled a racist if they dear speak up on such matters ?
Completely agree.

Shows how taboo questioning that subject has become, where a single phrase 'most of history is a lie'  instantly means that youre a denier amd that you hate jews......

Not like it could mean that he justbdoesnt quite buybthe whole story.....

People are way to sensitive.... if you cant question things, without being demonized..... something is wrong.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2014, 05:40:27 AM »
I don't "hate" Jews and I believe no group of people should ever be persecuted, let alone killed, for their religious beliefs.  That said, there is plenty of solid evidence that the nj
number of Jews killed was blown up 10-fold or more, the supposed "gas chambers" would not have functioned with the technology at the time, and while there may have been a few renegade internment camps where Jews were killed (this is where all the "evidence" for the supposed genocide occurred, there was no mass extermination of Jews.  

This event is more accurately known as the "Holohoax," as it is a total exaggeration and has served as political weapon fo justify behaviors worse than any Nazi engaged in. Germans were executed whole sale after the take over, and innocent women and children burned alive on the street with flame throwers (google that horrific, true holocaust), and the Jews today, almost a century later are filing law suits to get cash money for these blown out of proportion myths. Read "The Holocaust Industry" for an academic account of what really went on and how the Jews have used it to gain money, eliminate prosecution for their mass, "retaliation" against any and all Nazis. "The Holocaust Industry" is a book written by a respected scholar with a PhD. and professor at a major University, whose parents were IN a Nazi camp!!! He has every reason to lie and continue to produce the propaganda of the Holocaust, but as a research scholar, his own research led him to a different, more accurate, account of history.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #41 on: September 26, 2014, 05:40:59 AM »
Actually, it was this and this.


Dorian is such a legend, he only needs one documentary, to debunk one of the biggest crimes in the history of the world. That's just how much of an alpha he is.

Research schmeesearch

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #42 on: September 26, 2014, 05:43:09 AM »
I don't "hate" Jews and I believe no group of people should ever be persecuted, let alone killed, for their religious beliefs.  That said, there is plenty of solid evidence that the nj
number of Jews killed was blown up 10-fold or more, the supposed "gas chambers" would not have functioned with the technology at the time, and while there may have been a few renegade internment camps where Jews were killed (this is where all the "evidence" for the supposed genocide occurred, there was no mass extermination of Jews.  

This event is more accurately known as the "Holohoax," as it is a total exaggeration and has served as political weapon fo justify behaviors worse than any Nazi engaged in. Germans were executed whole sale after the take over, and innocent women and children burned alive on the street with flame throwers (google that horrific, true holocaust), and the Jews today, almost a century later are filing law suits to get cash money for these blown out of proportion myths. Read "The Holocaust Industry" for an academic account of what really went on and how the Jews have used it to gain money, eliminate prosecution for their mass, "retaliation" against any and all Nazis. "The Holocaust Industry" is a book written by a respected scholar with a PhD. and professor at a major University, whose parents were IN a Nazi camp!!! He has every reason to lie and continue to produce the propaganda of the Holocaust, but as a research scholar, his own research led him to a different, more accurate, account of history.

Wow, I thought it was all true - thanks for the undisputable evidence. So glad I logged onto the G&O today, you never know which world renowned experts are lurking! Thanks bro

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #43 on: September 26, 2014, 05:46:06 AM »
Dorian is such a legend, he only needs one documentary, to debunk one of the biggest crimes in the history of the world. That's just how much of an alpha he is.

Research schmeesearch
Nice.  ;D

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #44 on: September 26, 2014, 05:58:24 AM »
Yup exactly what I said - don't believe everything you read to be true - that number of 6 million has been shown to be false
and by Jewish researchers so not anti Semites.. He is right in this case , history is a lie , no where does he say it did not happen.

The Adolf Hitler movie he refers to - things like that are educational so don't see an issue with that comment ?

So now if you question things that you are told are true even though there is plenty of evidence to show things are not quite as they seemed
and what we have had forced into us to be true , then one gets labeled a racist if they dear speak up on such matters ?
would agree with you except that particular 6 hour "biography"  is a well known favorite among antisemites and holocaust deniers.  it's not just some run-of-the-mill  Hitler documentary like you might find in the history channel.  it is PARTICULARLY skewed in how it portrays him.  It's not any more unbiased and "educational" than the average Soul Crusher  thread. But there's no reason you would know that unless you're the kind of weirdo who is obsessed with conspiracy theorists and their bizarro media (like me).

 And just to be clear, I'm not sayting Dorian is or is not a racist.  I actually don't care at all, because outside our little niche sport, he is mostly irrelevant, and he's not even an active competitor anymore.  many of the greats in many different industries were complete, unquestionable assholes.  WAY more than just a Facebook post here and there. I'm just saying his statements were not just " hey guys, question everything."

 Either way,  the man can believe and say what he wants.  Just like we're allowed to vilify or not vilify him for those statements.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #45 on: September 26, 2014, 06:02:14 AM »
would agree with you except that particular 6 hour "biography"  is a well known favorite among antisemites and holocaust deniers.  it's not just some run-of-the-mill  Hitler documentary like you might find in the history channel.  it is PARTICULARLY skewed in how it portrays him.  It's not any more unbiased and "educational" than the average Soul Crusher  thread. But there's no reason you would know that unless you're the kind of weirdo who is obsessed with conspiracy theorists and their bizarro media (like me).

 And just to be clear, I'm not sayting Dorian is or is not a racist.  I actually don't care at all, because outside our little niche sport, he is mostly irrelevant, and he's not even an active competitor anymore.  many of the greats in many different industries were complete, unquestionable assholes.  WAY more than just a Facebook post here and there. I'm just saying his statements were not just " hey guys, question everything."

 Either way,  the man can believe and say what he wants.  Just like we're allowed to vilify or not vilify him for those statements.
Waffling. It actually behooves good people to call out assholes on their bullshit.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #46 on: September 26, 2014, 06:06:51 AM »
Waffling. It actually behooves good people to call out assholes on their bullshit.
true,  but he's not an asshole for having fucked up BELIEFS.  he'd have to DO something or incite others to do something to actually be an asshole.

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« Reply #47 on: September 26, 2014, 06:11:08 AM »
true,  but he's not an asshole for having fucked up BELIEFS.  he'd have to DO something or incite others to do something to actually be an asshole.
Maybe it's age thing ( :-\) but beliefs can be just as dangerous as tangibles.

/is it time for the early-bird buffet?

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #48 on: September 26, 2014, 06:14:42 AM »
Maybe it's age thing ( :-\) but beliefs can be just as dangerous as tangibles.

/is it time for the early-bird buffet?
haha, no. I just view Dorian as totally irrelevant outside of his legendary status to bodybuilders, who are also pretty irrelevant. I love this sport, but let's not pretend ANYONE outside of bodybuilding even knows who Yates is.  He couldn't be any less of a threat to public sensibility.

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Re: Dorian Yates
« Reply #49 on: September 26, 2014, 06:42:00 AM »
I thought the real Hebrews were black anyway.


Holocaust debunked.