Are people finally waking up to the ramifications of marriage?

[_bruce_]

I love being married. Love my wife, she loves me. I have a beautiful healthy daughter that have given us a beautiful healthy granddaughter. I have someone I can confide in, trust and love. I traveled for work the last 2 weeks and she put I love you cards in my suitcase both weeks and I sent her roses to her work.

Yea it is real terrible.  I know for some it is but you haven't had a girlfriend since.......oh wait, nevermind. Don't condemn something you know absolutely nothing about. You may consider it an opinion but in reality it just shows ignorance.

That's the spirit.

[anabolichalo]

Simply put - the more autonomous people become - the less is the need to "live together". Family was best for times in the past (and western societies that were in the past), it's time for something different now, the life is changing at it's core, the ways of living, survining I mean. It's just a usual evolution in action, trying different options until a new best one is found.

This is funny AND brilliant at the same time (kids growing in communities would be an interesting way to rise them):

Oh, and wait till "Oculus rift" will evolve into a "Brain rift", lol.. We'll be able to witness quite some interesting ways to "live ones life".

fascinatin

watched with great attention

[Thin Lizzy]

Unfortunately, humans are social beings

Yeah, but we get less social as we age. When you're young, you need other people to help you find your way. Not so when you're older.

I used to love hanging out with friends. Now, I dread hearing the phone ring.

[_aj_]

fascinatin

watched with great attention

I have to say that he makes some great points.

[Radical Plato]

Feminism ruined the Western World. Hope this helps.

[BigRo]

Osho used to get high on nitric oxide before his lectures!

[da_vinci]

This, in our lifetime it will be possible to stay in and bang prime Rachel Welsh, Pamela Anderson, Megan Fox, Jenna Jameson and Salma Hayek in a field of roses and unicorns and it feel totally real, being able to live there night and day.You don't think Marriage rates are going to plummet drastically when that happens?lol.

People will go to work to be able to sustain their bodies, and pay the utility bills, just to get back from work and "plug-in" their REAL life. Sounds pretty unbelieveable, but that's the future. Many things will change, many, only for this reason alone.

[Parker]

Yeah, but we get less social as we age. When you're young, you need other people to help you find your way. Not so when you're older.

I used to love hanging out with friends. Now, I dread hearing the phone ring.

I see a lot of older people hanging out and talking outside of Starbucks, or at golf courses at cigar shops.

[da_vinci]

Unfortunately, humans are social beings, and if you look at today...the breakdown of families has help create rifts between one another, more people are lonely, and more mental health issues. More people kirking out, more women wanting to know "why can't they find a good man", when they never had a father figure in their lives. More men just creating kids and not taking care of them. The US is a nation spinning out of control.
As I said, if you don't care, and I don't care, then who does? No one.
It's ironic that the West is being attack by Muslims, who hold their religion and family (brothers) above everything else, and the West sees this as an attack on the "individualism" that it drills into our heads. Yet, wants a "united front" on terrorism.


Ah yes, Occulus Rift---it will grow into something where people would like to be stuck in a fantasy realm where reality is unattractive. A cheap version of the matrix. Already they are saying that porn will be a big driving factor in future development.

It's a process.. Marriage is not working for as a way of survival for many people due to changes in the survival itself. It will even out after new ways will be found.
 And virtual reality will be a "real reality", just another version of it.. I can't go further as nor I, nor most people can really imagine or comprehend of what's comming. It'd blow our minds if we'd be able to have a glimpse of a future.
 

[Army of One]

People will go to work to be able to sustain their bodies, and pay the utility bills, just to get back from work and "plug-in" their REAL life. Sounds pretty unbelieveable, but that's the future. Many things will change, many, only for this reason alone.

There won't be any going to work, you'll either work in the field naked via brain waves to communicate and have some robot drone do anything physical that needs doing at whatever central hubs are left for business, or just use those brain waves to communicate to other workers in their sims.Most work in the future will be taken by AI, most people won't be working as there won't be enough jobs, so they will be subsidised.

[da_vinci]

There won't be any going to work, you'll either work in the field naked via brain waves to communicate and have some robot drone do anything physical that needs doing at whatever central hubs are left for business, or just use those brain waves to communicate to other workers in their sims.Most work in the future will be taken by AI, most people won't be working as there won't be enough jobs, so they will be subsidised.

May be true too, it simply blows my mind too much to try to imagine stuff like that, but I'm sure that we have no idea of how "working" in the future will look in some cases, just like people couldn't imagine that someone will be a web designer, 30 years ago. Hell, I'm sitting in front of my monitor and coding a data base for a web project currently, and I did not even have an idea of what does it mean to be "coding" when I was 5.

[ENZO]

Marriage is a joke

[Parker]

It's a process.. Marriage is not working for as a way of survival for many people due to changes in the survival itself. It will even out after new ways will be found.
 And virtual reality will be a "real reality", just another version of it.. I can't go further as nor I, nor most people can really imagine or comprehend of what's comming. It'd blow our minds if we'd be able to have a glimpse of a future.
 

That's if it happens. America is rotting from within...said rotting will only stop when we stop doing what we are currently doing, and do the opposite. You can only go so far (left) until you end up (right). It's the natural order.
Balance is the natural order. You cannot do the perverse, and expect a balanced outcome.
Escapism is what it has always been. People used drugs before, and will technology along with drugs in the future. Expect more disillusionment, more depression, more unhappiness. Why? Well because that so called "real reality" that you talk about, doesn't exist when they unhook.
The physically ugly person is not the Adonis or Aphrodite that they are in their fantasy,
Lack of communication with each other becomes the norm, and higher rates of domestic violence due to the lack of communication and people frustrated with not getting what they believe that they deserve.

[da_vinci]

That's if it happens. America is rotting from within...said rotting will only stop when we stop doing what we are currently doing, and do the opposite. You can only go so far (left) until you end up (right). It's the natural order.
Balance is the natural order. You cannot do the perverse, and expect a balanced outcome.
Escapism is what it has always been. People used drugs before, and will technology along with drugs in the future. Expect more disillusionment, more depression, more unhappiness. Why? Well because that so called "real reality" that you talk about, doesn't exist when they unhook.
The physically ugly person is not the Adonis or Aphrodite that they are in their fantasy,
Lack of communication with each other becomes the norm, and higher rates of domestic violence due to the lack of communication and people frustrated with not getting what they believe that they deserve.

I think you are underestimating the future, but that's natural, most people assume things will be somewhat similar to what they are now. It's how humand mind is designed - linear. Don't worry, the social dynamics will find a way out, they always does, even if some chaos emerges before. Your "reality" doesn't exist when you die, too, it's all just a big illusion. Enjoy it whatever way you are able to, marriage or no marriage. My point is - times are changing, and what you are calling "perverse" now, may be a "normal" tomorrow.. just like so many times in the past. Mind wants "stability", I understand that.. and it tries to hold onto "stable" stuff for as long as possible, as change means - effort and risk.

[Archer77]

I am 33 years old. I have had no desire to get married in my life. I am seeing a trend with many people around my age group (around 10 years) that I am noticing a trend.

Marriage is dying a slow death.

A document "binding" people together means absolutely nothing these days.

Marriage is more convenience and "friend pussy" then anything.

Kids obviously provide some glue, but even then, douchebags are gonna douchebag.

Marriage is a conversation point. A sham.

Does your aversion to marriage have more to do with a lack of female interests, you drunk bastard?

[Parker]

I think you are underestimating the future, but that's natural, most people assume things will be somewhat similar to what they are now. It's how humand mind is designed - linear. Don't worry, the social dynamics will find a way out, they always does, even if some chaos emerges before. Your "reality" doesn't exist when you die, too, it's all just a big illusion. Enjoy it whatever way you are able to, marriage or no marriage. My point is - times are changing, and what you are calling "perverse" now, may be a "normal" tomorrow.. just like so many times in the past. Mind wants "stability", I understand that.. and it tries to hold onto "stable" stuff for as long as possible, as change means - effort and risk.

If you say so...
If one is observant, and look around, you'll see a world falling apart. It may reorganize,
But, people today are less happy, more depressed, more angry, more selfish. Technology is evolving...
But, the quality of people is degrading. And what is odd, is how you look to technology to improve humans. That is almost scary. Technology has become the new "god" to some people. I believe it can in some ways enhance life, but as I stated before, balance with all things is necessary.

Humans never change really, they are always looking for something or someone to worship.

[Parker]

Does your aversion to marriage have more to do with a lack of female interests, you drunk bastard?

That is kinda what I was getting at.

[King Shizzo]

You dont have to be married to love a woman or your children.

People are saying: "I love my children!"

I hope so  

I understand that there are some great marriages out there, but the divorce rate is at 50% or above, and that does not count all of the couples that just "exist" either for the kids or to keep the illusion of being happy.

Marriage is just another idea taken from religion.

[Archer77]

That is kinda what I was getting at.

At least hes not breeding!

[King Shizzo]

Does your aversion to marriage have more to do with a lack of female interests, you drunk bastard?

I do not see a correlation between the two.

I could have been married by now if I wanted.

Im sure Enzo has no problems with the ladies, and he thinks marriage is a joke.

[Parker]

At least hes not breeding!

yet.
In some drunken, sweaty escape of self control, a Lil Shiz may come into this world. And when he or she does, the child will be badgered by "no on likes you Shiz" and "damn you are annoying".
And then, said Shiz-Spawn will turn to the only friend that doesn't turn him/her away. The friend that is always there and  always listens...the bottle. And then try to make friends with his/her anti-friend, Getbig.
The Cycle continues.

[King Shizzo]

yet.
In some drunken, sweaty escape of self control, a Lil Shiz may come into this world. And when he or she does, the child will badgered by "no on likes you Shiz" and "damn you are annoying".
And then, said Shiz-Spawn will turn to the only friend that doesn't turn him/her away. The friend that is always there and  always listens...the bottle. And then try to make friends with his/her anti-friend, Getbig.
The Cycle continues.

Lol!!!

[Archer77]

yet.
In some drunken, sweaty escape of self control, a Lil Shiz may come into this world. And when he or she does, the child will badgered by "no on likes you Shiz" and "damn you are annoying".
And then, said Shiz-Spawn will turn to the only friend that doesn't turn him/her away. The friend that is always there and  always listens...the bottle. And then try to make friends with his/her anti-friend, Getbig.
The Cycle continues.

I've already purchased a baby shower gift.

[King Shizzo]

Now this is a proper Getbig thread.

Some insightful discussions and a little ass raping for the OP.
 
 

[Radical Plato]

If you say so...
If one is observant, and look around, you'll see a world falling apart. It may reorganize,
But, people today are less happy, more depressed, more angry, more selfish. Technology is evolving...
But, the quality of people is degrading. And what is odd, is how you look to technology to improve humans. That is almost scary. Technology has become the new "god" to some people. I believe it can in some ways enhance life, but as I stated before, balance with all things is necessary.

Humans never change really, they are always looking for something or someone to worship.

This sounds like just your opinion.  There is a tendency for people as they get older to become nostalgic and think things were better in the past.  On a whole I think people today are happier, less angry and less selfish (things can always get better though, things have gone from shitty to less shitty.) If you take last century for instance, more human beings were killed from genocide and war than in the entire history of humankind.  Doesn't sound like a generation of happy, relaxed and altruistic people.