a gift from the mighty 'no one' to you- the no one system in a nutshell.

[The True Adonis]

I can`t tell you how many times I have seen the long time roid user suddenly stop roids, due to health reasons, job, or whatever to only come to the gym and look totally confused.  They try to continue the same lazy routine and half assed training and usually just give up completely.  They have no clue that they actually have to train a whole hell of a lot harder without drugs to get any results versus their lazy roider days.

[MONSTER_TRICEPS]

Some friends are roid users with a decent base. After a period of not training they start again (clean) and look great within 2 months.

The roiders I know without a decent base (shit training) look like shit while off juice and on juice.

Roids don't help much if you train and eat like shit imo.

[The True Adonis]

Some friends are roid users with a decent base. After a period of not training they start again (clean) and look great within 2 months.

The roiders I know without a decent base (shit training) look like shit while off juice and on juice.

Roids don't help much if you train and eat like shit imo.

Training is the most important thing.  They can rely on shit training and roids, but they cannot rely on shit training and no roids. 

[Simple Simon]

Training is the most important thing.  They can rely on shit training and roids, but they cannot rely on shit training and no roids. 

Err you just said people can take roids and not train at all and make gains

Hearsay from a personal standpoint, but its obvious to realize whats going on as there is mountains of evidence out there supporting what I say.  You and the others can pretend you are not all drugs, but you would be fooling yourself.

You cannot make any decent gains as a natural being a lazy trainer.  Its just not gonna happen.  Roiders don`t even have to lift weights and will gain muscle just by the hormones.

Now you are trolling

and deliberately fucking up this thread, now fuck off back in the kitchen and bake up a cake.

[The True Adonis]

Err you just said people can take roids and not train at all and make gains
Now you are trolling

and deliberately fucking up this thread, now fuck off back in the kitchen and bake up a cake.

Yep.  You can take roids and make muscle mass gains with no training.

You can`t however, make any good gains as a natural without training.

What is so hard to understand Simon? 

[mazrim]

Now you are trolling

and deliberately fucking up this thread, now fuck off back in the kitchen and bake up a cake.

He wasn't the one who started derailing it...


Anyways since I started hitting everything three times a week I would never go back. Never done everything everyday but the concept makes sense.

[Simple Simon]

He wasn't the one who started derailing it...

I wasnt the one who resorted to throwing around comments about drug use, thats where it went tits up.

[che]

I don't believe in magic routines /systems ( HIT, volume ....)

I believe in hard work , consistency with my  training and diet , that's it.

[a_pupil]

good stuff.

could you go into the leg training stuff you mentioned i.e. cardio instead of weights

[Simple Simon]

Yep.  You can take roids and make muscle mass gains with no training.

You can`t however, make any good gains as a natural without training.

What is so hard to understand Simon? 

So by that statement steroids must be the most important factor and not training.

If you are natty and dont train you wont make gains, well theres a revelation.

[Hulkotron]

don't ask me abt poundages and that other bullshit. it's it's too heavy pull some weight off it's not rocket science.

 

[The True Adonis]

So by that statement steroids must be the most important factor and not training.

If you are natty and dont train you wont make gains, well theres a revelation.

For me, steroids are not important whatsoever because I have no interest in using them.  The only thing I have is training and nothing else.

For you, steroids are probably the most important part of your physique because you certainly like to brag how little your training is and how lackadaisical your sessions are.  

[Simple Simon]

For me, steroids are not important whatsoever because I have no interest in using them.  The only thing I have is training and nothing else.

For you, steroids are probably the most important part of your physique because you certainly like to brag how little your training is and how lackadaisical your sessions are.  

I guess some of us just have better genetics.

Oh and your constant denial of drugs is getting a little tiresome.
Its clear you dont use now, but you have in the past, thats why you are so aware of how much they can help.

[BigRo]

I don't believe in magic routines /systems ( HIT, volume ....)

I believe in hard work , consistency with my  training and diet , that's it.

same

[The True Adonis]

I guess some of us just have better genetics.

Oh and your constant denial of drugs is getting a little tiresome.
Its clear you dont use now, but you have in the past, thats why you are so aware of how much they can help.

Its called I have eyes and a brain.  I also see you confirmed what I stated earlier in just how much they help.

I can actually get away with training less, but I like to get an hour of hard exercise at least a day.  What I like about No Ones approach is that I can get my weight training done faster and have time for some cardio which I never do, but should.

How long are your workouts Simon?  10-15 minutes 3 times a week?  Just curious.  I do about an hour, 3-5 days a week.

[Simple Simon]

Its called I have eyes and a brain.  I also see you confirmed what I stated earlier in just how much they help.

I can actually get away with training less, but I like to get an hour of hard exercise at least a day.  What I like about No Ones approach is that I can get my weight training done faster and have time for some cardio which I never do, but should.

How long are your workouts Simon?  10-15 minutes 3 times a week?  Just curious.  I do about an hour, 3-5 days a week.

I train 5 or 6 days a week for about 45 mins to an hour tops

[The True Adonis]

I train 5 or 6 days a week for about 45 mins to an hour tops

Oh, so a little more than me apparently time wise with less sets and reps. (sounds like you are the one who is wasting the time)  What are you doing?  Taking naps between sets?

[SuperTed]

I don't believe in magic routines /systems ( HIT, volume ....)

I believe in hard work , consistency with my  training and diet , that's it.

X2

I've tried different routines over the years and through trial and error, got a routine which works reasonably well for me and that I enjoy doing.
You just have to be consistent (with both training and diet) and the end of the day, your genetics will determine how good you end up looking.

[The True Adonis]

it works.

How did you set your routine up?

[Simple Simon]

Oh, so a little more than me apparently time wise with less sets and reps. (sounds like you are the one who is wasting the time)  What are you doing?  Taking naps between sets?

I dont just bang out reps and sets I concentrate on every rep and make each set count, I dont aim for numbers, I use a weight to fatigue the muscle.

[ENZO]

Err you just said people can take roids and not train at all and make gains
Now you are trolling

and deliberately fucking up this thread, now fuck off back in the kitchen and bake up a cake.

Lmao

[no one]

good to see this discussion. a few points based on responses and questions.

this isn't a magic bullet routine but it's very goddamn close. if you are interested in performing optimally and creating a machine out of your body this routine will do that. 7x the volume per week over what your doing now and no soreness? I'd say that's pretty a pretty goddamm resilient highly functioning body. with that resiliency comes a change in the density of your tissue and the quality of the muscle you'll hold.

for example to look at my arms they look like they've grown at least an inch or better. they haven't. they look denser thicker rounder. as do my delts. everything does. and I'm not a one trick pony geared just to gain muscle- I'm doing between 80 - 100km of pretty advanced technical singletrack mountain biking a week. 3hrs a day w my heart rate at 150bpm for a lot of it. I don't care to be a monster anymore. I want to be a machine. that's what I've created of myself. my goal this year is a 50km day. next year I might endurance race. not to compete against others. just against myself. all the while I'm going to keep smashing the gym. creating a better machine. if I can do it anyone can.

this isn't abt throwing on slabs of useless tissue it's about creating a highly functioning machine and in that you can actually change the look in the quality of the muscle you hold- think abt it for a minute- how could it NOT?

that being said if your a juicer and you can tax the cell w 7x the volume and have it recover and adapt think abt what that will do for your physique.

I recant my previous statement- this routine is as close to a magic bullet there is.

as to questions

bass generator all sets done to fatigue or near fatigue.

TA if your current session takes an hr and your resting a min between sets you should be able to do that routine in 15-20 min w the compression.

I'm not 'special'. I'm not 'genetically blessed'. I was just a guy who was inspired by a story by a guy named david goggins a navy seal turned ultra marathoner. the guy just got off his ass one day and said 'im going to do ultra marathons'. he'd never trained for one before. ran his first one. broke the bones on his feet. almost suffered renal failure. but he didn't stop. the guy is a human machine now.

that's all I did. I got off my ass. at fucking 43 years of age and I'm killing it. if I can do this anyone can.

[The True Adonis]

good to see this discussion. a few points based on responses and questions.

this isn't a magic bullet routine but it's very goddamn close. if you are interested in performing optimally and creating a machine out of your body this routine will do that. 7x the volume per week over what your doing now and no soreness? I'd say that's pretty a pretty goddamm resilient highly functioning body. with that resiliency comes a change in the density of your tissue and the quality of the muscle you'll hold.

for example to look at my arms they look like they've grown at least an inch or better. they haven't. they look denser thicker rounder. as do my delts. everything does. and I'm not a one trick pony geared just to gain muscle- I'm doing between 80 - 100km of pretty advanced technical singletrack mountain biking a week. 3hrs a day w my heart rate at 150bpm for a lot of it. I don't care to be a monster anymore. I want to be a machine. that's what I've created of myself. if I can do it anyone can.

this isn't abt throwing on slabs of useless tissue it's about creating a highly functioning machine and in that you can actually change the look in the quality of the muscle you hold- think abt it for a minute- how could it NOT?

that being said if your a juicer and you can tax the cell w 7x the volume and have it recover and adapt think abt what that will do for your physique.

I recant my previous statement- this routine is as close to a magic bullet there is.

as to questions

bass generator all sets done to fatigue or near fatigue.

TA if your current session takes an hr and your resting a min between sets you should be able to do that routine in 15-20 min w the compression.

I'm not 'special'. I'm not 'genetically blessed'. I was just a guy who was inspired by a story by a guy named david goggins a navy seal turned ultra marathoner. the guy just got off his ass one day and said 'im going to do ultra marathons'. he'd never trained for one before. ran his first one. broke the bones on his feet. almost suffered renal failure. but he didn't stop. the guy is a human machine now.

that's all I did. I got off my ass. at fucking 43 years of age and I'm killing it. if I can do this anyone can.

I am starting today and will keep to it.  I am excited to give this a go.

Did you see my brief summation of your post and can you tell me if I got it all down?

1. Compression.  Duration-3 Weeks. Use any routine as normally laid out. Stop resting between sets.  Count to 5 then hit the next set.
2. Adaption. Duration-3 Weeks. Use any routine. Do the entire routine each day (all body-parts), but in 3 non-consecutive days. Same rest as phase 1.
3. Completion. Duration-3 Weeks. Use any routine. Do the entire routine (all body-parts), 7 days a weeks.  Same rest phase as in 1 and 2.  You are now a machine.

[Hulkotron]

Yes I will try this as well, need a change-up.

[no one]

I am starting today and will keep to it.  I am excited to give this a go.

Did you see my brief summation of your post and can you tell me if I got it all down?

1. Compression.  Duration-3 Weeks. Use any routine as normally laid out. Stop resting between sets.  Count to 5 then hit the next set.
2. Adaption. Duration-3 Weeks. Use any routine. Do the entire routine each day (all body-parts), but in 3 non-consecutive days. Same rest as phase 1.
3. Completion. Duration-3 Weeks. Use any routine. Do the entire routine (all body-parts), 7 days a weeks.  Same rest phase as in 1 and 2.  You are now a machine.

ya that's abt it.

you'll actually get to a point where you can train 2x a day 3x a week on top of the volume of the final phase. lol it's amazing you just keep traiinng the body keeps adapting.

to anyone wanting to start this. don't just jump into it. you'll really fuck yourself up. don't skip levels thinking you do need to follow it. the idea is to create an environment that allows for adaptation to take place thru gradual application of stress.

take the necessary weeks to complete each level. otherwise the adaptation won't take place and you'll meerly injure yourself or burn out completely.

by the time you hit week 9 you'll be very very impressed w your ability to generate sizeable workloads in a very short amount of time.