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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2014, 11:39:17 PM »
Inosanto was a stunman in Out For Justice, friend with Seagal... Story goes that one day Steven Seagal was signing autographs in a mall, Dan Inosanto approached him with his friend Francis Fong... When trying to shake hands, Seagal put Inosanto in a joint lock (a thing Seagal loves to do to other people, supposedly), probably to make himself look good in front of everyone... After, he tried to do it with Fong but the guy supposedly bitch-slapped him putting Seagal down, saying that if he tried to do something he'll kill him... Security escorted both Inosanto and Fong out of the mall...
he probably does have a huge Ego. I liked watching his techniques. His "marui"(circular motion) is very short. very effective. surprising as he comes from an era where Morihei ueshiba was older and his Aikido was much softer and more spiritual.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2014, 03:42:08 AM »
he probably does have a huge Ego. I liked watching his techniques. His "marui"(circular motion) is very short. very effective. surprising as he comes from an era where Morihei ueshiba was older and his Aikido was much softer and more spiritual.
Many bad stories about Seagal, but also some people that talk positive about him, Dan Inosanto being one of them... Are those bad stories all completely true? Hard to tell... Donny did you practice or practiced Aikido?

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2014, 03:51:37 AM »
Many bad stories about Seagal, but also some people that talk positive about him, Dan Inosanto being one of them... Are those bad stories all completely true? Hard to tell... Donny did you practice or practiced Aikido?
yes Tendo Ryu and Iwama Ryu.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2014, 04:02:52 AM »
Tendo Ryu i like. very Dynamic. Shimizu was a Judo master and he brings a lot of koshi nage (hip throws) in his school of Aikido. I met him in Germany at a Seminar. An old video but i love it.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2014, 04:11:00 AM »
Tendo Ryu i like. very Dynamic. Shimizu was a Judo master and he brings a lot of koshi nage (hip throws) in his school of Aikido. I met him in Germany at a Seminar. An old video but i love it.

What do you think about real-life applications of Aikido techniques on average joes, bar brawls and similar? Are some techniques effective also against trained fighters? I'd like to know your take on this...

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2014, 04:24:57 AM »
well if i was going in that direction i would go for Yoshinkan Aikido or Daito Ryu, the fore runner of Aikido. Much more direct with Atemi waza striking. I am a Dan Grade and can use some things from it. the Tai Sabaki body movements. Some joint locks are very , very painful. Truth be told the best things i learned was Army Boxing. Taking a punch and still getting stuck in.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2014, 04:40:18 AM »
went to aikido school once,got kicked out
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2014, 06:25:03 AM »
went to aikido school once,got kicked out

lol  ;D

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2014, 06:47:38 AM »
Steven now walks among giants. He made a right choice.



True.  Take your Pick - Putin or Obama.   Any guy who hangs around Obama a lot is probably gay.
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2014, 06:52:33 AM »
went to aikido school once,got kicked out
guess you were too tough ::)

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2014, 07:02:25 AM »
Seagal is a fraud. Couldn't handle white belts who had a month of jui jitsu training without tapping out. On top of it he is and has always been incredibly out of shape.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #61 on: September 30, 2014, 07:09:15 AM »
Seagal is a fraud. Couldn't handle white belts who had a month of jui jitsu training without tapping out. On top of it he is and has always been incredibly out of shape.
Utter rubbish. He is a high Dan in Aikido. his technique is outstanding. lets not turn this into an Aikido vs Brazilian jui jitsu.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #62 on: September 30, 2014, 07:28:04 AM »
 ;)

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #63 on: September 30, 2014, 07:31:30 AM »
;)


Looks about as real as wrestling...

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #64 on: September 30, 2014, 07:39:21 AM »
Looks about as real as wrestling...
you have tried it ?

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #65 on: September 30, 2014, 08:49:26 AM »
Inosanto was a stunman in Out For Justice, friend with Seagal... Story goes that one day Steven Seagal was signing autographs in a mall, Dan Inosanto approached him with his friend Francis Fong... When trying to shake hands, Seagal put Inosanto in a joint lock (a thing Seagal loves to do to other people, supposedly), probably to make himself look good in front of everyone... After, he tried to do it with Fong but the guy supposedly bitch-slapped him putting Seagal down, saying that if he tried to do something he'll kill him... Security escorted both Inosanto and Fong out of the mall...
lmao


so inosanto got owned? and couldnt get out of the lock?


ahahahahah

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #66 on: September 30, 2014, 08:54:50 AM »
you have tried it ?

This stuff is obviously choreographed.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #67 on: September 30, 2014, 09:49:31 AM »
Utter rubbish. He is a high Dan in Aikido. his technique is outstanding. lets not turn this into an Aikido vs Brazilian jui jitsu.
I hope you are trolling.  Aikido is a bullshido, nobody takes it serious as a martial art.  And yes, Steven Seagal is a fraud, sorry to knock your fatfuck idol of his self made pedestal, but Segal is considered a joke by anybody serious about the fighting business.  Old man Gene Lebell choked out Steven on a movie set after Segall bragged he couldn't be choked out.  Segall actually shit his pants and stunk up the place.  Randy Couture offered to come out of retirement to kick Segall's arse in a sanctioned fight, Segall refused and made some childish offer to fight to the death in a secret location with no witnesses.  Segal is a delusional, mentally retarded loser, Aikido is gayer than ballet and 'CHI' doesn't exist.  Hope this helps.

Here's what happens to bullshido proponents when in a real fight.


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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #68 on: September 30, 2014, 09:55:30 AM »
Love how there are over a dozen guys in the room yet rather then just jumping on him all at once, they choose to attack him one at a time. :-\

Didn't you hear the guy offer $5k to the first guy who could take Gino's badge? That's why they came at him one at a time.  ;D

Gino knew how to handle women too - he could be a white knight or show his pimp hand at the drop of a hat when the situation called for it...






He also supported small businesses:

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #69 on: September 30, 2014, 09:57:49 AM »
lmao


so inosanto got owned? and couldnt get out of the lock?


ahahahahah

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Basically yes, but Inosanto is not a fighter or a tough guy, not even close, he will tell you that himself...
Seagal is a fraud. Couldn't handle white belts who had a month of jui jitsu training without tapping out. On top of it he is and has always been incredibly out of shape.
Seagal was in shape back in the days, plus he had an imposing tall figure with lots of leverage... He's no doubt a master of Aikido, problem is, could many of his techniques work with a trained boxer, kickboxer, muay thai practitioner, bjj practitioner or even beginners, other than average joes? Not sure, but Donny has infinitely more experience than me on this subject...

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #70 on: September 30, 2014, 10:03:12 AM »
Who was it who posted here years ago about how Seagal was a cuckold who used to pay Chris Duffy and other big bodybuilders to screw his then-wife Kelly LeBroc in front of him?
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #71 on: September 30, 2014, 10:07:41 AM »
Who was it who posted here years ago about how Seagal was a cuckold who used to pay Chris Duffy and other big bodybuilders to screw his then-wife Kelly LeBroc in front of him?
Oh yes, heard that too...

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #72 on: September 30, 2014, 10:10:25 AM »
;)


This is actually really funny!  Was this a new story piece / excerpt?

I do respect Stevens previous aikido accomplishments but towards the end of the video he's just cloths-lining people who are running at him....with their hands by their sides....too funny!

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #73 on: September 30, 2014, 10:51:40 AM »

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #74 on: September 30, 2014, 11:56:22 AM »
Basically yes, but Inosanto is not a fighter or a tough guy, not even close, he will tell you that himself
i would expect someone who devotes his life to martial arts would be able to kick seagals ass