Really Seagal...Really??

[pedro01]

Segall refused and made some childish offer to fight to the death in a secret location with no witnesses.  

Definitely a getbigger

[Alucard]

i would expect someone who devotes his life to martial arts would be able to kick seagals ass

There is a difference between being a martial artist or a fighter... Inosanto is mostly a Wing Chun teacher/master that followed the Jeet Kune Do philosophy, and an actor, a "movie fighter"... He will tell you that himself... There are thousands of black belts/masters that never fought or even sparred a day in their life... Martial artists? Absolutely... Fighters? No...

[Fortress]

Wank at about the two-minute mark is simply running into Seagal's clotheslines again and again and again. 

[Danimal77]

wtf is wrong with this dude...basically in another cold war with Russia and he celebrates with them about Crimea

Met the man in 2002 at my local Aikido dojo (best one in my city). Dude was HUGE (easily 6'4"-6'5"). Hands like a catchers mit. He did some exhibition and 5 guys in my dojo all attacked him at once. NO ONE came close to even budging him.

[The Ugly]

I hope you are trolling.  Aikido is a bullshido, nobody takes it serious as a martial art.  And yes, Steven Seagal is a fraud, sorry to knock your fatfuck idol of his self made pedestal, but Segal is considered a joke by anybody serious about the fighting business.  Old man Gene Lebell choked out Steven on a movie set after Segall bragged he couldn't be choked out.  Segall actually shit his pants and stunk up the place.  Randy Couture offered to come out of retirement to kick Segall's arse in a sanctioned fight, Segall refused and made some childish offer to fight to the death in a secret location with no witnesses.  Segal is a delusional, mentally retarded loser, Aikido is gayer than ballet and 'CHI' doesn't exist.  Hope this helps.

Here's what happens to bullshido proponents when in a real fight.

200-1.

Why on earth would this idiot accept the challenge, knowing what he's really about? Think he started to believe his own bullshit?

[The Ugly]

Years back there was a group of legit old competitors (not MMA guys) calling him out to prove his nonsense. Needless to say he didn't take them up on it. Bob Wall was one of 'em, but I forget the others.

I'll happily admit, Seagal's style looks fantastic on screen, better than most. But let's be honest; it's Bruce Lee all over again. Dudes aren't fighters; they're "artists."

[FitnessFrenzy]

He needs to go on the Cleanest Natural diet ASAP.

[Donny]

I hope you are trolling.  Aikido is a bullshido, nobody takes it serious as a martial art.  And yes, Steven Seagal is a fraud, sorry to knock your fatfuck idol of his self made pedestal, but Segal is considered a joke by anybody serious about the fighting business.  Old man Gene Lebell choked out Steven on a movie set after Segall bragged he couldn't be choked out.  Segall actually shit his pants and stunk up the place.  Randy Couture offered to come out of retirement to kick Segall's arse in a sanctioned fight, Segall refused and made some childish offer to fight to the death in a secret location with no witnesses.  Segal is a delusional, mentally retarded loser, Aikido is gayer than ballet and 'CHI' doesn't exist.  Hope this helps.

Here's what happens to bullshido proponents when in a real fight.

Aikido is the modern watered down version of Daito Ryu. The Grounder of Aikido was a master of Daito Ryu and was tought by Sokaku Takeda. i suggest you read up on itīs origins and why the grounder of aikido turned it into a "Way",..or "DO"...  Seagal is not my Hero but unlike you i understand what he is doing. Judo is also a "Way" which i also have a Background in. Indeed Kenji tomiki a very talented master of Judo and later Aikido formed a synthesis of the two. Aikido is not the best for self defence and i would tell people to combine boxing and Judo. I like the traditional and moral aspects to Aikido, i smiled at your post. try it and weīll talk.

[anabolichalo]

There is a difference between being a martial artist or a fighter... Inosanto is mostly a Wing Chun teacher/master that followed the Jeet Kune Do philosophy, and an actor, a "movie fighter"... He will tell you that himself... There are thousands of black belts/masters that never fought or even sparred a day in their life... Martial artists? Absolutely... Fighters? No...

fucking lol if this is true

maybe i could even kick inosanto's ass then

[gracie bjj]

guess you were too tough

since u brought it up like that, ill tell u. it wasn't a matter of being tough,it was a matter of I made all 4 top instructors tap out in pain to the same move(keylock from side control),then the main teacher wouldn't go with me saying I was wreckless and not following the principles of aikido . him and his instructors where the ones that where saying they would beat any UFC guy in no time,guess what im far from UFC level and I took them down with a basic wrestling move and was surprised to find out how weak their ground game where,the instructors kept asking me to give them my wrist and I said no,u got to get it on your own in a fight no ones gonna give you their wrist if u ask for it,lol,wtf is that :anyway they called cops on me when I questioned why I had to leave,i wasn't causing trouble,just asking why I had to leave since I submitted all the instructors.needless to say I had 5 of the students follow me outside asking me for the name of the MMA/BJJ school I go to cause they said fuck this aikido shit,we want what u learned

[Alucard]

Years back there was a group of legit old competitors (not MMA guys) calling him out to prove his nonsense. Needless to say he didn't take them up on it. Bob Wall was one of 'em, but I forget the others.

I'll happily admit, Seagal's style looks fantastic on screen, better than most. But let's be honest; it's Bruce Lee all over again. Dudes aren't fighters; they're "artists."

The "Dirty Dozen", Bob Wall (who is an idiot in my opinion), Bill Wallace, Allen Steen and some others... Seagal never accepted the challenge, him and Wall hate each other... Absolutely agree about Bruce Lee, martial artist, philosopher, actor, not a fighter...

[Donny]

since u brought it up like that, ill tell u. it wasn't a matter of being tough,it was a matter of I made all 4 top instructors tap out in pain to the same move(keylock from side control),then the main teacher wouldn't go with me saying I was wreckless and not following the principles of aikido . him and his instructors where the ones that where saying they would beat any UFC guy in no time,guess what im far from UFC level and I took them down with a basic wrestling move and was surprised to find out how weak their ground game where,the instructors kept asking me to give them my wrist and I said no,u got to get it on your own in a fight no ones gonna give you their wrist if u ask for it,lol,wtf is that :anyway they called cops on me when I questioned why I had to leave,i wasn't causing trouble,just asking why I had to leave since I submitted all the instructors.needless to say I had 5 of the students follow me outside asking me for the name of the MMA/BJJ school I go to cause they said fuck this aikido shit,we want what u learned

Does not matter what system you do it does not make you Hard. they train in the way you mentioned so itīs controlled and there is no injury. What you do has a competition element like Judo. Traditional Aikido does not have competition, apart from tomiki Aikido which i mentioned. I can only assume you were in an Aiki Kai Dojo and some schools are very soft. believe me if i get trouble outside i use my paws  So you had all the kids praising you outside did you? well i guess youīre a guy to watch out for...eh?

[gracie bjj]

Does not matter what system you do it does not make you Hard. they train in the way you mentioned so itīs controlled and there is no injury. What you do has a competition element like Judo. Traditional Aikido does not have competition, apart from tomiki Aikido which i mentioned. I can only assume you were in an Aiki Kai Dojo and some schools are very soft. believe me if i get trouble outside i use my paws  So you had all the kids praising you outside did you? well i guess youīre a guy to watch out for...eh?

im far from a guy to watch out for,im an old man now and my good days r far behind me . im just telling of a incident that happened to me back in the day,the dudes who followed me outside where actually middle aged guys. i actually went to the aikido school with good intentions in my heart,i wanted to learn some small joint locks to help in in my self defense arsenal and i read some good stuff on aikido and how it can help, the instructors weren't bad guys to be honest,the teacher was the instigater and the instructors where just following their great leader ;)the teacher prolly woulda handed me my ass that day if i went at it with him,like i said i was just trying to learn some new stuff to help my self defense techniques and i guess the teacher took it the wrong way. i don't understand why he wanted to get me locked up for wrestling his instructors,maybe if i woulda screamed and said please stop maybe the instructors woulda slapped me on my keester and smiled and we all woulda went out for some ice cream and pizza after training and sang some john mellencamp tunes

[Donny]

No probs man... It really depends on the Teacher. I first went to a Guy here in Celle who was teaching Aikido from a German organization and was with another Brit. He was one of these Teachers who played more emphasis on KI. I then trained in Hannover and found a man who was totally different in his approach and who had lived many years in Japan. His training was no no nonsense Iwama Ryu which is more Old School. Painful at times. He said to me one time,"we must control the aggressor". He was not a dreamer. Brazilian Jui Jitsu is very effective and ground work is excellent, i know what itīs like to be put in a choke. I personally found Aikido a great way to relax and like the Traditional aspect.

[Kwon_2]

The "Dirty Dozen", Bob Wall (who is an idiot in my opinion), Bill Wallace, Allen Steen and some others... Seagal never accepted the challenge, him and Wall hate each other... Absolutely agree about Bruce Lee, martial artist, philosopher, actor, not a fighter...

Why is Bob Wall an iidot?

[gracie bjj]

No probs man... It really depends on the Teacher. I first went to a Guy here in Celle who was teaching Aikido from a German organization and was with another Brit. He was one of these Teachers who played more emphasis on KI. I then trained in Hannover and found a man who was totally different in his approach and who had lived many years in Japan. His training was no no nonsense Iwama Ryu which is more Old School. Painful at times. He said to me one time,"we must control the aggressor". He was not a dreamer. Brazilian Jui Jitsu is very effective and ground work is excellent, i know what itīs like to be put in a choke. I personally found Aikido a great way to relax and like the Traditional aspect.

im pretty sure a LEGIT aikido teacher would hand me my ass tho with out much problems,to be honest that's why i like stuff like aikido and pancration cause they do crazy,gruesome shit. original aikido and pancrase practicioners would eye gouge u and break your fingers by bending them backwards and shit :oeven bjj pisses me off with that shit off starting on the knees, a real fight don't start on the knees ::)that's why i only do NO-GI SUBMISSION GRAPPLING,i mean what happens if u r on the beach with no clothes and cant grab nothing?thats why i hate that GI, to be honest PANCRATION is one of the best forms of fighting on the planet,it combines all sorts of striking,grappling ect. pancration they break fingers backwards,break toes,eye gouge,fishhook the mouth,rip off your testicles ect,real juicy yet effective shit

[Kwon_2]

Tiger Mask Sayama teaching his students

[Archer77]

200-1.

Why on earth would this idiot accept the challenge, knowing what he's really about? Think he started to believe his own bullshit?

Yes, he did believe his own bullshit. This video is a classic.  Martial Arts is good for kids because it gives them something to do with their time.  I think it was GracieBjj who mentioned that he has his kid(s) in wrestling.  I think this is a better activity.

[Tapeworm]

im pretty sure a LEGIT aikido teacher would hand me my ass tho with out much problems,to be honest that's why i like stuff like aikido and pancration cause they do crazy,gruesome shit. original aikido and pancrase practicioners would eye gouge u and break your fingers by bending them backwards and shit :oeven bjj pisses me off with that shit off starting on the knees, a real fight don't start on the knees ::)that's why i only do NO-GI SUBMISSION GRAPPLING,i mean what happens if u r on the beach with no clothes and cant grab nothing?thats why i hate that GI, to be honest PANCRATION is one of the best forms of fighting on the planet,it combines all sorts of striking,grappling ect. pancration they break fingers backwards,break toes,eye gouge,fishhook the mouth,rip off your testicles ect,real juicy yet effective shit

Yep, can't remember the last time I found myself squaring off with some belligerent drunk who happened to be wearing a gi.  

"I would have had him but there was a textile malfunction.  His Target shirt ripped at the lapel so I couldn't get him over."

[Donny]

im pretty sure a LEGIT aikido teacher would hand me my ass tho with out much problems,to be honest that's why i like stuff like aikido and pancration cause they do crazy,gruesome shit. original aikido and pancrase practicioners would eye gouge u and break your fingers by bending them backwards and shit :oeven bjj pisses me off with that shit off starting on the knees, a real fight don't start on the knees ::)that's why i only do NO-GI SUBMISSION GRAPPLING,i mean what happens if u r on the beach with no clothes and cant grab nothing?thats why i hate that GI, to be honest PANCRATION is one of the best forms of fighting on the planet,it combines all sorts of striking,grappling ect. pancration they break fingers backwards,break toes,eye gouge,fishhook the mouth,rip off your testicles ect,real juicy yet effective shit

Itīs not the style/art but the man behind it. You can teach a coward everything you know but if he has not the Heart..well you know what i mean. I was always fast with my hands as a young guy and i can say that without being big headed. however when i did Army Boxing i learned Discipline. the man who tought me and i respect i still write to on Facebook. In his prime was a very hard man but was always good to me.

[Beckenbauer]

im pretty sure a LEGIT aikido teacher would hand me my ass tho with out much problems,to be honest that's why i like stuff like aikido and pancration cause they do crazy,gruesome shit. original aikido and pancrase practicioners would eye gouge u and break your fingers by bending them backwards and shit :oeven bjj pisses me off with that shit off starting on the knees, a real fight don't start on the knees ::)that's why i only do NO-GI SUBMISSION GRAPPLING,i mean what happens if u r on the beach with no clothes and cant grab nothing?thats why i hate that GI, to be honest PANCRATION is one of the best forms of fighting on the planet,it combines all sorts of striking,grappling ect. pancration they break fingers backwards,break toes,eye gouge,fishhook the mouth,rip off your testicles ect,real juicy yet effective shit

So if your opponent doesn't give up u have to submit by break his arm, choke him off. What's the difference than trying to break your knee? I do believe striker has always the upper hand vs grappler if there are no rules. But I think there is a big difference who submits through grappling and striking without remorse any bodypart. Grappler do have 3 choices: holding till he gives up, opponent struggles in your hold and submits himself, lastly u have to submit which is mentally the hardest.
Striker without limit can have only one option, having no remorse.

But in our socity the chance u will meet a real killer striker, is lower than u have to face Jon Jones or Bas Rutten  

[Donny]

funny interview.. rambling but donīt answer the question.

[Beckenbauer]

Itīs not the style/art but the man behind it. You can teach a coward everything you know but if he has not the Heart..well you know what i mean. I was always fast with my hands as a young guy and i can say that without being big headed. however when i did Army Boxing i learned Discipline. the man who tought me and i respect i still write to on Facebook. In his prime was a very hard man but was always good to me.

Yeah but different style can produce more effective fighters on average. U can meet a very skilled wing chun fighter but these are very rare, or boxer even the worst one's are dangerous.
It's because in wing chun they spar never full contact or when they do with full armored gear  
Boxing through sparing hardens u emotionally. Most traditional martial artist when they get hit once, they are shocked cause they never dealt with it. They all practice in a civilized environment.
So your best bet to learn self defense art is, where they simulate as smilar as possible a real encounter.

[Donny]

Yeah but different style can produce more effective fighters on average. U can meet a very skilled wing chun fighter but these are very rare, or boxer even the worst one's are dangerous.
It's because in wing chun they spar never full contact or when they do with full armored gear  
Boxing through sparing hardens u emotionally. Most traditional martial artist when they get hit once, they are shocked cause they never dealt with it. They all practice in a civilized environment.
So your best bet to learn self defense art is, where they simulate as smilar as possible a real encounter.

Remember a guy in Scotland we called Del. Was an ex Argyll and southern Highlander. He was confronted with a guy who went into a Karate stance..i shit you not. Del said iīll show you Karate Army style and dropped the guy- this i swear is true. was just fast and aggressive. Not a big guy but knew the score.

[Beckenbauer]

Remember a guy in Scotland we called Del. Was an ex Argyll and southern Highlander. He was confronted with a guy who went into a Karate stance..i shit you not. Del said iīll show you Karate Army style and dropped the guy- this i swear is true. was just fast and aggressive. Not a big guy but knew the score.

There are a lot Karate styles but I know shotokan do practice a lot sparing, and they are forward oriented and explosive with their fist from the waist. U see some succesful in kickboxing or mma like Glaube Feitosa, Lyoto Machida.

I like Karate, they adapt a lot and try to differentiate from traditional. But it still depends from school or how talented u are.
Or what u said army style, that means their training is different than usual one's.