Really Seagal...Really??

[Donny]

There are a lot Karate styles but I know shotokan do practice a lot sparing, and they are forward oriented and explosive with their fist from the waist. U see some succesful in kickboxing or mma like Glaube Feitosa, Lyoto Machida.

I like Karate, they adapt a lot and try to differentiate from traditional. But it still depends from school or how talented u are.
Or what u said army style, that means their training is different than usual one's.

I know Shotokan and i did try this too. I also did Wado Ryu which is an off shoot from shindo Yoshin Ryu/shotokan. these "soft" and fast body movement i always liked too in Wado Ryu.

[Donny]

I tel with Suzuki Sensei(RIP) and i have a letter from him. i have posted this before. He was one of the old school masters of Wado Ryu. His comments on shotokan an Kyokushinkai were it´s only with strength and not Sabaki.

[Alucard]

Why is Bob Wall an iidot?

Some interviews i read/view from him, regarding the martial arts world, i came to that conclusion... Just my opinion...

[Ropo]

I hope you are trolling.  Aikido is a bullshido, nobody takes it serious as a martial art.  And yes, Steven Seagal is a fraud, sorry to knock your fatfuck idol of his self made pedestal, but Segal is considered a joke by anybody serious about the fighting business.  Old man Gene Lebell choked out Steven on a movie set after Segall bragged he couldn't be choked out.  Segall actually shit his pants and stunk up the place.  Randy Couture offered to come out of retirement to kick Segall's arse in a sanctioned fight, Segall refused and made some childish offer to fight to the death in a secret location with no witnesses.  Segal is a delusional, mentally retarded loser, Aikido is gayer than ballet and 'CHI' doesn't exist.  Hope this helps.

Here's what happens to bullshido proponents when in a real fight.

Why do you sound so much like envy cunt? If you deny all the facts, maybe you are right in some pervert way, but in the real world things are  weighted by the facts, not by the rumors. Let me spell the facts for your:

1. Seagal used to have his own dojo in Osaka, Japan at 1970-80. Then he open dojo in Taos, New Mexico, with his student (and later film stuntman) Craig Dunn, and after that at 1983 in Burbank, California, but later moved it to the city of West Hollywood.
2. In those dojos he have teach thousands of people, years BEFORE he start acting.
3. He was found to his first and hugely successful action film in 1988 entitled “Above the Law" from that dojo in Hollywood.
4. He really is a 7th dan degree and Shihan in Aikido. You can't get that with money, you has to earn it. Highest ranking is 10th dan
5. He have been teaching Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, two highly rated MMA fighters.

So if he is fake, why all this? Both, Silva and Machida has used his techniques in the ring, and they give credits for Seagal with no hesitation. Common factor among these guys is that they have balls, and you are just another wanker, with no life outside of the Internet. Hope this helps..

[Radical Plato]

Why do you sound so much like envy girl? If you deny all the facts, maybe you are right in some pervert way, but in the real world things are  weighted by the facts, not by the rumors. Let me spell the facts for your:

1. Seagal used to have his own dojo in Osaka, Japan at 1970-80. Then he open dojo in Taos, New Mexico, with his student (and later film stuntman) Craig Dunn, and after that at 1983 in Burbank, California, but later moved it to the city of West Hollywood.
2. In those dojos he have teach thousands of people, years BEFORE he start acting.
3. He was found to his first and hugely successful action film in 1988 entitled “Above the Law" from that dojo in Hollywood.
4. He really is a 7th dan degree and Shihan in Aikido. You can't get that with money, you has to earn it. Highest ranking is 10th dan
5. He have been teaching Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, two highly rated MMA fighters.

So if he is fake, why all this? Both, Silva and Machida has used his techniques in the ring, and they give credits for Seagal with no hesitation. Common factor among these guys is that they have balls, and you are just another wanker, with no life outside of the Internet. Hope this helps..

Oh poor ropo, for someone who isn't easily sucked in by conspiracy theories,it is surprising you are so gullible as to not be able to identify a fraudulent martial arts based on nonsense like Chi.  His qualifications are equivalent to a 7th degree black belt in macrame.  He never taught Anderson or Lyoto anything, they just went along with it because they are polite.  He tried the same shit on Jon Jones who promptly told him to 'Fuck Off".  His attempts to latch onto prominent UFC fighters is a desperate attempt by a B grade actor to remain relevant.

There is a good reason there are zero aikido practitioners in the UFC.  If Seagal wanted to quieten the doubters he has had multiple opportunities to do so.   Randy Couture, Bas Rutten, Nam Phan and even Ronda Rousey have called this douchebag out only to have Seagal refuse like the coward he is.  He does this because he knows there will always be gullible people who know nothing about fighting think that he is an accomplished fighter through the power of his bullshit.  If he actually fights someone and inevitably gets his arsekicked this will remove all doubt and even the gullible individuals like you will have to admit he is a fraud.

Fighting has always attracted such delusional types, and for those in the know, Seagal is an object of ridicule.

[Simple Simon]

Oh poor ropo, for someone who isn't easily sucked in by conspiracy theories,it is surprising you are so gullible as to not be able to identify a fraudulent martial arts based on nonsense like Chi.  His qualifications are equivalent to a 7th degree black belt in macrame.  He never taught Anderson or Lyoto anything, they just went along with it because they are polite.  He tried the same shit on Jon Jones who promptly told him to 'Fuck Off".  His attempts to latch onto prominent UFC fighters is a desperate attempt by a B grade actor to remain relevant.

There is a good reason there are zero aikido practitioners in the UFC.  If Seagal wanted to quieten the doubters he has had multiple opportunities to do so.   Randy Couture, Bas Rutten, Nam Phan and even Ronda Rousey have called this douchebag out only to have Seagal refuse like the coward he is.  He does this because he knows there will always be gullible people who know nothing about fighting think that he is an accomplished fighter through the power of his bullshit.  If he actually fights someone and inevitably gets his arsekicked this will remove all doubt and even the gullible individuals like you will have to admit he is a fraud.

Fighting has always attracted such delusional types, and for those in the know, Seagal is an object of ridicule.

Could Steven Segal fight a pitbull?

[Archer77]

Why do you sound so much like envy girl? If you deny all the facts, maybe you are right in some pervert way, but in the real world things are  weighted by the facts, not by the rumors. Let me spell the facts for your:

1. Seagal used to have his own dojo in Osaka, Japan at 1970-80. Then he open dojo in Taos, New Mexico, with his student (and later film stuntman) Craig Dunn, and after that at 1983 in Burbank, California, but later moved it to the city of West Hollywood.
2. In those dojos he have teach thousands of people, years BEFORE he start acting.
3. He was found to his first and hugely successful action film in 1988 entitled “Above the Law" from that dojo in Hollywood.
4. He really is a 7th dan degree and Shihan in Aikido. You can't get that with money, you has to earn it. Highest ranking is 10th dan
5. He have been teaching Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida, two highly rated MMA fighters.

So if he is fake, why all this? Both, Silva and Machida has used his techniques in the ring, and they give credits for Seagal with no hesitation. Common factor among these guys is that they have balls, and you are just another wanker, with no life outside of the Internet. Hope this helps..

He never “ran his own aikido school.” He married Myako Fujitani, in 1975. It was the connection to Myako’s father that enabled Seagal to be the first westerner to run a dojo in Japan. When they first married, he went to the school, his mother-in-law owned it, and his wife ran it. It was never his school.  I believe it was also Fujitani's father who granted him the title of 7th dan or at least expedited his rise through the ranks.

[Radical Plato]

Could Steven Segal fight a pitbull?

I did actually research this after the attack on myself, defense against an attacking dog, there isn't much useful information out there.  Pitbulls attack is considered unique compared to other dogs, considering it tends to grip and shake/tear.  Some people suggest letting the pitbull latch on and remain gripped onto you while you take it down and either try and choke it out, crush it or poke it's eyeballs out (apparently pitbulls have weak eye sockets/connections that are easily dislodged with some force).  One of the problems with defending against an attacking pitbull is that the very first attack can be disabling. A friend of mine who is an MMA fighter and Instructor actually fought a dog once for a demonstration.  He said when fighting a dog it is best to get down on it's level and try and neutralise it's main weapon (it's jaws) although I don't know of many people who would try such a thing.  He said against multiple dogs like pitbulls it is a pretty hard ask to successfully defend yourself (there are many factors involved).  

A few years ago a UFC fighter by the name of Kyacey Uscola was attacked by pitbulls outside the TUF house. As far as I was aware he didn't suffer any permanent injuries, but they did tear his hand up pretty bad as well as chunks bitten out of his shoulder, hip, hamstring and one of the dogs bit a hole right through his penis and he had to have a catheter for two weeks.

[Simple Simon]

I did actually research this after the attack on myself, defense against an attacking dog, there isn't much useful information out there.  Pitbulls attack is considered unique compared to other dogs, considering it tends to grip and shake/tear.  Some people suggest letting the pitbull latch on and remain gripped onto you while you either try and choke it out or poke it's eyeballs out (apparently pitbulls have weak eye sockets/connections that are easily dislodged with some force).  One of the problems with defending against an attacking pitbull is that the very first attack can be disabling. A friend of mine who is an MMA fighter and Instructor actually fought a dog once for a demonstration.  He said when fighting a dog it is best to get down on it's level and try and neutralise it's main weapon (it's jaws) although I don't know of many people who would try such a thing.  He said against multiple dogs like pitbulls it is a pretty hard ask to successfully defend yourself (there are many factors involved).  

A few years ago a UFC fighter by the name of Kyacey Uscola was attacked by pitbulls outside the TUF house. As far as I was aware he didn't suffer any permanent injuries, but they did tear his hand up pretty bad as well as chunks bitten out of his shoulder, hip, hamstring and one of the dogs bit a hole right through his penis and he had to have a catheter for two weeks.

Thanks for that.
Now back to my question
Could Segal fight a pitbull?

And why the name change?

[Radical Plato]

Thanks for that.
Now back to my question
Could Segal fight a pitbull?

And why the name change?

I don't know.  I don't know of anyone who has ever volunteered to do so.  It is my belief that a well trained fighting pitbull would quite possibly overwhelm any opponent, and two or more would have little problem killing an unarmed man.  I wouldn't have thought this before my experience, but when you experience something first hand you tend to have a pretty realistic understanding of what is involved.  For those who haven't seen real pits in action, they can only imagine.  Sometimes an owner can successfully stop the attack or defend against their pitbull when it attacks, but with strangers the attack is normally more intense.  I have heard many stories of attacking pitbulls being very difficult to stop, even with bullets.  The problem is their are lots of lookalike pitbulls, dogs that have had their game bred out of them by do-gooder pet breeders, so it is difficult to tell a genuine fighting pit from some meatheads pet, but sometimes even the meatheads pit can snap and have it's genetic legacy kick in.

[Simple Simon]

I don't know.  I don't know of anyone who has ever volunteered to do so.  It is my belief that a well trained fighting pitbull would quite possibly overwhelm any opponent, and two or more would have little problem killing an unarmed man.  Sometimes an owner can successfully stop the attack or defend against their pitbull when it attacks, but with strangers the attack is normally more intense.  I have heard many stories of attacking pitbulls being very difficult to stop, even with bullets.  The problem is their are lots of lookalike pitbulls, dogs that have had their game bred out of them by do-gooder pet breeders, so it is difficult to tell a genuine fighting pit from some meatheads pet, but sometimes even the meatheads pit ca snap and have it's genetic legacy kick in.

So there is a chance he could?

Why the name change?

[Radical Plato]

So there is a chance he could?

Why the name change?

There's a chance any man could.  Martial arts training helps more or less against other humans, I don't know of any advantage it would give you against animal attacks.  I changed the name because I was tired of the old one, I have become a different person since the time I chose that name.  Change is always nice when we choose it, don't you think.

[Archer77]

There's a chance any man could.  Martial arts training helps more or less against other humans, I don't know of any advantage it would give you against animal attacks.  I changed the name because I was tired of the old one, I have become a different person since the time I chose that name.  Change is always nice when we choose it, don't you think.

I didn't know you were you

[Alucard]

He never “ran his own aikido school.” He married Myako Fujitani, in 1975. It was the connection to Myako’s father that enabled Seagal to be the first westerner to run a dojo in Japan. When they first married, he went to the school, his mother-in-law owned it, and his wife ran it. It was never his school.  I believe it was also Fujitani's father who granted him the title of 7th dan or at least expedited his rise through the ranks.

Truth...

Oh poor ropo, for someone who isn't easily sucked in by conspiracy theories,it is surprising you are so gullible as to not be able to identify a fraudulent martial arts based on nonsense like Chi.  His qualifications are equivalent to a 7th degree black belt in macrame.  He never taught Anderson or Lyoto anything, they just went along with it because they are polite.  He tried the same shit on Jon Jones who promptly told him to 'Fuck Off".  His attempts to latch onto prominent UFC fighters is a desperate attempt by a B grade actor to remain relevant.

There is a good reason there are zero aikido practitioners in the UFC.  If Seagal wanted to quieten the doubters he has had multiple opportunities to do so.   Randy Couture, Bas Rutten, Nam Phan and even Ronda Rousey have called this douchebag out only to have Seagal refuse like the coward he is.  He does this because he knows there will always be gullible people who know nothing about fighting think that he is an accomplished fighter through the power of his bullshit.  If he actually fights someone and inevitably gets his arsekicked this will remove all doubt and even the gullible individuals like you will have to admit he is a fraud.

Fighting has always attracted such delusional types, and for those in the know, Seagal is an object of ridicule.

Have to agree here also... There is no doubt that Seagal is the real deal regarding Aikido, but is he an accomplished fighter? No, he's not, no records of him ever fighting someone... Could his techniques work against peasants, average joes, and such? Yes i think so, probably... Could he defeat a decently trained fighter in legit arts? Probably not, let alone professional fighters... Just my opinion...

[hench]

sounds about right, lots of stories about seagal and his co stars and stuntmen having altercations  floating around. Most say he's  an arsehole,
here's one from john leguizamo on executive decision. click the link for more

“We were in rehearsals for Executive Decision. I’m playing his Master Sargeant and we come in for rehearsals and he says, ‘I’m in command. Everything I say is law. Anybody doesn’t agree?’ I was like, ‘Bwahahaha.’ I started cracking up because he sounded like a retard and he came up and he Taekwondo’ed my ass against the brick and he [hit me with his elbow],” Leguizamo recalled. “He’s six-foot-five and he caught me off guard and knocked all of the air out of me and I was like, ‘Why?! Why?!’ I really wanted to say how big and fat he was and that he runs like a girl, but I didn’t because all I could say was, ‘Why?!’ Why’d he slam me against the wall? We were rehearsing. What’s the bid deal? Why can’t I call him names? If I can’t let it out it’s going to build like a cancer.”

http://www.cagepotato.com/awesome-story-of-the-day-steven-seagal-attacked-john-leguizamo-to-prove-he-was-the-alpha-male-on-a-movie-set/

Inosanto was a stunman in Out For Justice, friend with Seagal... Story goes that one day Steven Seagal was signing autographs in a mall, Dan Inosanto approached him with his friend Francis Fong... When trying to shake hands, Seagal put Inosanto in a joint lock (a thing Seagal loves to do to other people, supposedly), probably to make himself look good in front of everyone... After, he tried to do it with Fong but the guy supposedly bitch-slapped him putting Seagal down, saying that if he tried to do something he'll kill him... Security escorted both Inosanto and Fong out of the mall...

[dr.chimps]

Oldie, but goodie.

[anabolichalo]

holy shit 

[MikMaq]

[anabolichalo]

when will segal fight jean claude?

[Alucard]

when will segal fight jean claude?

Story goes that when Sylvester Stallone did a party at his house in 1997, both Van Damme and Seagal were there... Seagal never liked JCVD for some reasons, calling him a ballerina and only a bodybuilder, not a legit martial artist/fighter (well, he's not wrong to be honest), saying that he could kick his ass... Van Damme, who was supposedly a bit drunk, challenged Seagal to a real fight in the backyard, tired of hearing him talk shit... Seagal declined, left Stallone's house going to a club, and an angry Van Damme surprisingly followed, challenging him again... Seagal refused... If this story is mostly true, not a great thing on Seagal's resume... I mean, you shouldn't run from a sober JCVD, let alone from a drunk one if you are supposedly a super tough guy like Seagal claims to be...

[Simple Simon]

Story goes that when Sylvester Stallone did a party at his house in 1997, both Van Damme and Seagal were there... Seagal never liked JCVD for some reasons, calling him a ballerina and only a bodybuilder, not a legit martial artist/fighter (well, he's not wrong to be honest), saying that he could kick his ass... Van Damme, who was supposedly a bit drunk, challenged Seagal to a real fight in the backyard, tired of hearing him talk shit... Seagal declined, left Stallone's house going to a club, and an angry Van Damme surprisingly followed, challenging him again... Seagal refused... If this story is mostly true, not a great thing on Seagal's resume... I mean, you shouldn't run from a sober JCVD, let alone from a drunk one if you are supposedly a super tough guy like Seagal claims to be...

Why didnt Van Damme just beat him up?

[anabolichalo]

Why didnt Van Damme just beat him up?

while van damme is also questioned about being a legit fighter

pictures dont lie, he's was a super legit bber in 1978 and he must have been a little kid only showing such a physique is crazy

[The Ugly]

Story goes that when Sylvester Stallone did a party at his house in 1997, both Van Damme and Seagal were there... Seagal never liked JCVD for some reasons, calling him a ballerina and only a bodybuilder, not a legit martial artist/fighter (well, he's not wrong to be honest), saying that he could kick his ass... Van Damme, who was supposedly a bit drunk, challenged Seagal to a real fight in the backyard, tired of hearing him talk shit... Seagal declined, left Stallone's house going to a club, and an angry Van Damme surprisingly followed, challenging him again... Seagal refused... If this story is mostly true, not a great thing on Seagal's resume... I mean, you shouldn't run from a sober JCVD, let alone from a drunk one if you are supposedly a super tough guy like Seagal claims to be...

I'm guessing Stallone could probably drop 'em both.

[anabolichalo]

[Alucard]

Why didnt Van Damme just beat him up?

Like Halo said, JCVD isn't a fighter either, i also heard from many accounts that he's not exactly a "lionheart"... So probably found the courage to challenge Seagal due to being drunk, but he probably waited Seagal to accept or to make the first move...