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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #200 on: October 07, 2014, 05:12:55 AM »
What do you think could be done to make martial arts like Aikido more effective outside the dojo?
Brief all muggers on the correct way to offer their arm to their victims.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #201 on: October 07, 2014, 05:23:24 AM »
What do you think could be done to make martial arts like Aikido more effective outside the dojo?
shorter movements(marui) and Atemi waza from the old system. BJJ guys always play on the ground work and go on about MMA. hell, gracie bjj above wrote on another thread he went in an Aikido Dojo and well..he was just to rough for the Instructors, infact he..his words not mine, was followed out by admiring kids wanting to know his fighting style :D on the subject of BS.. Le Bell was known to BS too. Like he said he "Beat the shit out of Bruce lee" so i take any of these macho stories with a pinch of salt...
http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2012/06/steven-seagal-denies-ever-pooping-his-pants/

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #202 on: October 07, 2014, 05:25:19 AM »
Brief all muggers on the correct way to offer their arm to their victims.

How about printing instructions on a t-shirt?  One of the weakness I encountered sparing with a wing chung and aikido practitioner was their inability to handle straight whipping punches, particularly the jab.  I was much more difficult for them to grab that kind of punch.
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #203 on: October 07, 2014, 05:26:47 AM »
How about printing instructions on a t-shirt?  One of the weakness I encountered sparing with a wing chung and aikido practitioner was their inability to handle straight whipping punches, particularly the jab.  I was much more difficult for them to grab that kind of punch.
wing chun uses straight chain punches.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #204 on: October 07, 2014, 05:30:10 AM »

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« Reply #205 on: October 07, 2014, 05:34:35 AM »
wing chun uses straight chain punches.

Straight down the middle punches were difficult for them to deflect and grab because it limited the amount of surface area such as the inside of the forearm. They were better with looping punches like hooks.
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« Reply #206 on: October 07, 2014, 05:47:20 AM »
Straight down the middle punches were difficult for them to deflect and grab because it limited the amount of surface area such as the inside of the forearm. They were better with looping punches like hooks.
well probably why Bruce lee integrated western Boxing in his fighting. The wing chun/ving tzun/wing tzun...etc train with sticking hands. Non the less i have seen good wing Chun guys who were very fast and block and attack in one move. there are not just punches. some good stuff in there. The Leung Ting system below is the biggest in Germany, promoted here by Keith R Kernsprecht.

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #207 on: October 07, 2014, 06:04:40 AM »
Keith R Kersprecht has made a lot of money from this system mainly in Europe but also had some schools in the US too.
http://www.wingtsunwelt.com/wingtsun-grandmaster-keith-r-kernspecht?language=en

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« Reply #208 on: October 07, 2014, 06:05:32 AM »
well probably why Bruce lee integrated western Boxing in his fighting. The wing chun/ving tzun/wing tzun...etc train with sticking hands. Non the less i have seen good wing Chun guys who were very fast and block and attack in one move. there are not just punches. some good stuff in there. The Leung Ting system below is the biggest in Germany, promoted here by Keith R Kernsprecht.


Oh yeah, Im not knocking anything. I'm just curious about your opinions on the matter.
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #209 on: October 07, 2014, 06:19:36 AM »
Emin Boztepe in the video ( without the shirt ;D) was a student of Kernsprecht in Germany and now has his own organization in the US. A contraversal guy who issued challenges to the Gracie Family some years ago in Black Belt magazine.

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« Reply #210 on: October 07, 2014, 06:54:49 AM »
Emin Boztepe in the video ( without the shirt ;D) was a student of Kernsprecht in Germany and now has his own organization in the US. A contraversal guy who issued challenges to the Gracie Family some years ago in Black Belt magazine.


Ouch @ 1 min...

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« Reply #211 on: October 07, 2014, 07:06:12 AM »
I have never trained with him but with people who have. his style has ground work too. worth a look at.
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #212 on: October 07, 2014, 02:53:43 PM »
Donny and the ugly with the "my dads bigger than your dad" routine in this thread

Shouldn't have engaged, story just seemed reasonable is all.

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« Reply #213 on: October 08, 2014, 04:27:28 AM »
shorter movements(marui) and Atemi waza from the old system. BJJ guys always play on the ground work and go on about MMA. hell, gracie bjj above wrote on another thread he went in an Aikido Dojo and well..he was just to rough for the Instructors, infact he..his words not mine, was followed out by admiring kids wanting to know his fighting style :D on the subject of BS.. Le Bell was known to BS too. Like he said he "Beat the shit out of Bruce lee" so i take any of these macho stories with a pinch of salt...
http://uproxx.com/filmdrunk/2012/06/steven-seagal-denies-ever-pooping-his-pants/

lol, go back to my post and see where I ever wrote the word KIDS and please show me, grown men not kids. also I never said I used bjj on them,i said DOUBLE LEG TAKEDOWN(WRESTLING) and one guy I used a basic judo hip throw to put him on the mat.read my post again before u try to add on to it
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #214 on: October 08, 2014, 04:37:16 AM »
lol, go back to my post and see where I ever wrote the word KIDS and please show me, grown men not kids. also I never said I used bjj on them,i said DOUBLE LEG TAKEDOWN(WRESTLING) and one guy I used a basic judo hip throw to put him on the mat.read my post again before u try to add on to it
nothing against you graciebjj but you are calling out seagal and Aikido writing things like you did about yourself. Pot calling the kettle black..  ;)

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« Reply #215 on: October 08, 2014, 08:24:08 AM »
SAME HERE NOTHING PERSONAL WITH U BUT IVE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER ON THE MMA BOARDS , SHIT I REMEMBER DEBATING THIS ISSUE BACK IN 1998 ON SHERDOG MMA BOARDS :o,LOL, ITS KINDA LIKE WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT BRUCE LEE OR ROYCE GRACIE,OR MIKE TYSON AND ROYCE GRACIE,I THINK IN 20 YRS IT WILL STILL BE GOING ON LOL. HONESTLY I ENJOY SEAGALS MOVIES,THE EARLIER ONES ANYWAY,LIKE OUT FOR JUSTICE,MARKED FOR DEATH ECT,THEY WHERE COOL AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE 2 ON DVD
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #216 on: October 08, 2014, 09:44:51 AM »
SAME HERE NOTHING PERSONAL WITH U BUT IVE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER ON THE MMA BOARDS , SHIT I REMEMBER DEBATING THIS ISSUE BACK IN 1998 ON SHERDOG MMA BOARDS :o,LOL, ITS KINDA LIKE WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT BRUCE LEE OR ROYCE GRACIE,OR MIKE TYSON AND ROYCE GRACIE,I THINK IN 20 YRS IT WILL STILL BE GOING ON LOL. HONESTLY I ENJOY SEAGALS MOVIES,THE EARLIER ONES ANYWAY,LIKE OUT FOR JUSTICE,MARKED FOR DEATH ECT,THEY WHERE COOL AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE 2 ON DVD
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« Reply #217 on: October 08, 2014, 10:10:47 AM »
SAME HERE NOTHING PERSONAL WITH U BUT IVE HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER ON THE MMA BOARDS , SHIT I REMEMBER DEBATING THIS ISSUE BACK IN 1998 ON SHERDOG MMA BOARDS :o,LOL, ITS KINDA LIKE WHO WOULD WIN IN A FIGHT BRUCE LEE OR ROYCE GRACIE,OR MIKE TYSON AND ROYCE GRACIE,I THINK IN 20 YRS IT WILL STILL BE GOING ON LOL. HONESTLY I ENJOY SEAGALS MOVIES,THE EARLIER ONES ANYWAY,LIKE OUT FOR JUSTICE,MARKED FOR DEATH ECT,THEY WHERE COOL AND I ACTUALLY HAVE THOSE 2 ON DVD
Agreed... I would go as far as saying that Seagal was not even that bad of an actor, and his first movies were good action/MA flicks, he had charisma and his way of "fighting" was something new and different compared to Bruce Lee, Chuck Norris, JCVD and Jackie Chan...

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« Reply #218 on: October 08, 2014, 04:31:52 PM »
Agreed... I would go as far as saying that Seagal was not even that bad of an actor...


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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #219 on: October 09, 2014, 12:32:08 AM »
Nobody ever hired Seagal to teach them anything, he latched onto them like a leech.  They just happened to be fans of his movies and he took that opportunity to weasel his way into PRETENDING to train them.  They were just polite so they indulged him.  You are obviously oblivious to techniques that washed up actors use in a desperate attempt to stay relevant.  Seagal is using any opportunity he can to remain in the spotlight, using a couple of UFC fighters to do so is just another ploy.  His latest one is to latch on to Vladimir Putin. Once the fighters realized what he was up to and taking credit for their hard work, they quickly distanced themselves from him.

Well, it depends whose lies you are eager to believe, and as we know, any fucking lie is good enough for you guys. As story goes, Silva contacted Seagal and they met few times, Segal help him refine some movements, which is all true and just like Silva says in that interview. Everything else is deliberate misunderstanding and misrepresenting the matter, done by envy brats and haters like you. And lets see what that another MMA fighter, Lyoto Machida, says about the matter: "I train this kick a lot. I've had it in my arsenal, and I just had to wait for the right moment to pull the trigger and utilize it. The technique itself [Silva and I have] both known for a long time. But I definitely think Steven Seagal being involved and influencing us and helping us perfect the kick definitely made a difference....[Seagal] always reinforced that to me – to try that kick. 'That kick will land, and it will work.' I definitely give credit to him for helping me perfect that kick."

So is he saying that Seagal teach everything he knows about the martial arts, or do he tell that Seagal help him to perfect that kick? Of course you could blow that out of proportions by lying what ever comes to your pervert little mind, but there is always also the truth. Watch those videos what are available, and try to understand what there is going on.  Just keep on mind that Seagal is 62 years old, 6" tall and weights something like 350lb, so he is fat old guy. You don't see him doing cartwheels or jump kicks because he is too fat. 

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Why on Earth would the most successful UFC champion NEED a B Grade actor to teach him how to fight.  Look Ropo, you obviously have a hard-on for Seagal and a deep need to believe that he is the real deal, but he is an ACTOR, not a fighter.  The idea that a portly Aikido guy taught two kicking masters a kick that is learned in every child's first karate class is absurd.  Don't forget, Seagal was chocked out by an old man and actually SHIT his pants, stinking up the place, all in front of dozens of witnesses.

You clearly get a hard-on when you can spread those rumors, which you believe like all other crap, without any thinking at all. In situation like Segall vs Lebell, who has everything to lose, and who has everything to gain?  Would you hear the absolute truth from the pitiful has been like Lebell, which just about no one even know who the fuck he is? Why Seagal would even start to play with the old bum like that? I bet it is just like Seagal says, it never happen. And what dozens of witnesses? Like those imaginary witnesses, who pop out from the woodwork to witness every fucking foil hat theory? How many dozen would fit in one trailer, where all of this happen? And why this is happening larger than life for you and the haters? Because there this fake martial artist meet his destiny, by the hands of the JUDO MASTER. So Aikido is fake martial art, and judo isn't? In fact, they are from same branch of the martial arts family three, both evolved from Japanese jujitsu at the same time. On the technical side, Aikido is rooted in several styles of jujitsu (from which modern judo is also derived), in particular daitoryu-(aiki)jujitsu, as well as sword and spear fighting arts. So it is just as fake as all of the martial arts, those which MMA has has born from.

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Fellow Brazilian and top ranked UFC Fighter Damian Maia had this to say about the dubious relationship between the fighters and the B Grade movie actor. "The bloated fake martial artist and movie actor Steven Seagal has absolutely nothing to teach a real fighter like Silva, and everyone knows it. That’s a lie, it is marketing. He never taught anything to Anderson…it is a joke.”

This is a direct quote from Anderson Silva "Steven Seagal is good man. There’s no coach, no train me, but is good man. Just a good person, that’s it. … Yeah, I train the front kick for long time. I start to train martial arts for long time ago. Steven Seagal showed me the movement, the little movement, but don’t teach me this kick. Because I working hard for this kick for long time in my life."

 So, if it is marketing, who is marketing what? Did Silva and that another guy have a need to make fool out themselves by taping actor teaching them how to fight? Who gain and what in this marketing act? If Seagal is only part who would benefit from it, because these fighter has lost all their street credibility, why bother to kiss his ass? There has to be motive why these fighters let those videos spread all over the internet. What it would be? You can't answer, because you never think things that far. Truth is just as it has been said, Segal help them refine some of the movements, and they were quite happy for it, until Rogan and bunch of complete assholes start their crap throwing campaign. After Silva realize that his credibility is on the line, he start to take some distance about the matter.

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Have you even watch that complete video? In that clip Seagal shows how to close the distance to the opponent in the way, which gives you the opportunity to use front kick straight from the step without stop or jump. This clip only prove that you are happy to eat all the crap what foil hat produce at the front of you, without any thinking at all.  If you watch the original video, you learn that Seagal is giving only some pointers, show few variations to concern, and no matter if you understand it or not, those pointers make sense. Problem with you guys is that you lack perspective, you lack the vision about the martial arts, because all you do in your life is sitting at the front of the computer screen and try to find things to hate. Do you even understand how sad that is?  ;D


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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #220 on: October 09, 2014, 01:36:22 AM »
Well, it depends whose lies you are eager to believe, and as we know, any fucking lie is good enough for you guys. As story goes, Silva contacted Seagal and they met few times, Segal help him refine some movements, which is all true and just like Silva says in that interview. Everything else is deliberate misunderstanding and misrepresenting the matter, done by envy brats and haters like you. And lets see what that another MMA fighter, Lyoto Machida, says about the matter: "I train this kick a lot. I've had it in my arsenal, and I just had to wait for the right moment to pull the trigger and utilize it. The technique itself [Silva and I have] both known for a long time. But I definitely think Steven Seagal being involved and influencing us and helping us perfect the kick definitely made a difference....[Seagal] always reinforced that to me – to try that kick. 'That kick will land, and it will work.' I definitely give credit to him for helping me perfect that kick."

So is he saying that Seagal teach everything he knows about the martial arts, or do he tell that Seagal help him to perfect that kick? Of course you could blow that out of proportions by lying what ever comes to your pervert little mind, but there is always also the truth. Watch those videos what are available, and try to understand what there is going on.  Just keep on mind that Seagal is 62 years old, 6" tall and weights something like 350lb, so he is fat old guy. You don't see him doing cartwheels or jump kicks because he is too fat.  

You clearly get a hard-on when you can spread those rumors, which you believe like all other crap, without any thinking at all. In situation like Segall vs Lebell, who has everything to lose, and who has everything to gain?  Would you hear the absolute truth from the pitiful has been like Lebell, which just about no one even know who the fuck he is? Why Seagal would even start to play with the old bum like that? I bet it is just like Seagal says, it never happen. And what dozens of witnesses? Like those imaginary witnesses, who pop out from the woodwork to witness every fucking foil hat theory? How many dozen would fit in one trailer, where all of this happen? And why this is happening larger than life for you and the haters? Because there this fake martial artist meet his destiny, by the hands of the JUDO MASTER. So Aikido is fake martial art, and judo isn't? In fact, they are from same branch of the martial arts family three, both evolved from Japanese jujitsu at the same time. On the technical side, Aikido is rooted in several styles of jujitsu (from which modern judo is also derived), in particular daitoryu-(aiki)jujitsu, as well as sword and spear fighting arts. So it is just as fake as all of the martial arts, those which MMA has has born from.

 So, if it is marketing, who is marketing what? Did Silva and that another guy have a need to make fool out themselves by taping actor teaching them how to fight? Who gain and what in this marketing act? If Seagal is only part who would benefit from it, because these fighter has lost all their street credibility, why bother to kiss his ass? There has to be motive why these fighters let those videos spread all over the internet. What it would be? You can't answer, because you never think things that far. Truth is just as it has been said, Segal help them refine some of the movements, and they were quite happy for it, until Rogan and bunch of complete assholes start their crap throwing campaign. After Silva realize that his credibility is on the line, he start to take some distance about the matter.

Have you even watch that complete video? In that clip Seagal shows how to close the distance to the opponent in the way, which gives you the opportunity to use front kick straight from the step without stop or jump. This clip only prove that you are happy to eat all the crap what foil hat produce at the front of you, without any thinking at all.  If you watch the original video, you learn that Seagal is giving only some pointers, show few variations to concern, and no matter if you understand it or not, those pointers make sense. Problem with you guys is that you lack perspective, you lack the vision about the martial arts, because all you do in your life is sitting at the front of the computer screen and try to find things to hate. Do you even understand how sad that is?  ;D


Your an idiot Ropo.  I have followed the UFC since it's inception, I have watched every UFC event ever produced, I trained in boxing in my younger years and am well read on the Martial Arts.  And one thing I have learned is guys who talk tough are a dime a dozen, but  rarely are those types of guys capable of backing it up.  Seagal's unwillingness to walk his talk is more than enough evidence he is a fraud.  Any genuine tough guy looks forward to any opportunity to prove it, which Seagal has been offered many opportunities to do so.  

And the night Lyoto used that kick against Randy Couture was the first time he met Seagal.  Seagal merely verbally suggested he use it, he didn't TEACH him anything, it was Lyoto's father who taught him that kick.  Seagal working with Lyoto came later and as anyone can see it was an embarrassment.  Lyoto and Silva went along with it because they though Seagal may be able to open some doors into action films for them and not only that they are polite people, they don't want to hurt Seagal's feelings.  

As for Joe Rogan having a go at Seagal, that came about because Seagal openly suggested he knew far more about martial arts than Joe Rogan did.  Rogan being someone who displays his extensive martial arts knowledge on a regular basis during his role as color commentator for the UFC as well as being a genuine black belt in BJJ.

And none of this is relevant, you only need look at Seagal, his terrible acting, the fact he is morbidly obese, moves like a drunken walrus and has NEVER fought anyone in a sanctioned competition, and couple this with his constant talking up of himself, his constant lies (like that he has secretly been a police officer for twenty years or that that he is an adviser to several CIA agents or that he’d been a U.S. Navy SEAL and that he had been involved in  covert operations, or that while in Japan he fearlessly battled the Yakuza, or that he’s the reincarnation of a 17’th century Buddhist lama) to know that he is a full blown egomaniac incapable of telling the truth.  Anybody who lacks the intuitive ability to see through Steven Seagal is a poor judge of character indeed or has a pathethic mancrush or quite possibly a combination of the two. 
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #221 on: October 09, 2014, 02:30:17 AM »
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Your an idiot Ropo.  I have followed the UFC since it's inception, I have watched every UFC event ever produced, I trained in boxing in my younger years and am well read on the Martial Arts.  And one thing I have learned is guys who talk tough are a dime a dozen, but  rarely are those types of guys capable of backing it up.  Seagal's unwillingness to walk his talk is more than enough evidence he is a fraud.  Any genuine tough guy looks forward to any opportunity to prove it, which Seagal has been offered many opportunities to do so.  

And the night Lyoto used that kick against Randy Couture was the first time he met Seagal.  Seagal merely verbally suggested he use it, he didn't TEACH him anything, it was Lyoto's father who taught him that kick.  Seagal working with Lyoto came later and as anyone can see it was an embarrassment.  Lyoto and Silva went along with it because they though Seagal may be able to open some doors into action films for them and not only that they are polite people, they don't want to hurt Seagal's feelings.  

As for Joe Rogan having a go at Seagal, that came about because Seagal openly suggested he knew far more about martial arts than Joe Rogan did.  Rogan being someone who displays his extensive martial arts knowledge on a regular basis during his role as color commentator for the UFC as well as being a genuine black belt in BJJ.

And none of this is relevant, you only need look at Seagal, his terrible acting, the fact he is morbidly obese, moves like a drunken walrus and has NEVER fought anyone in a sanctioned competition, and couple this with his constant talking up of himself, his constant lies (like that he has secretly been a police officer for twenty years or that that he is an adviser to several CIA agents or that he’d been a U.S. Navy SEAL and that he had been involved in  covert operations, or that while in Japan he fearlessly battled the Yakuza, or that he’s the reincarnation of a 17’th century Buddhist lama) to know that he is a full blown egomaniac incapable of telling the truth.  Anybody who lacks the intuitive ability to see through Steven Seagal is a poor judge of character indeed or has a pathethic mancrush or quite possibly a combination of the two. 

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #222 on: October 09, 2014, 03:40:25 AM »
Your an idiot Ropo.  I have followed the UFC since it's inception, I have watched every UFC event ever produced, I trained in boxing in my younger years and am well read on the Martial Arts.  And one thing I have learned is guys who talk tough are a dime a dozen, but  rarely are those types of guys capable of backing it up.  Seagal's unwillingness to walk his talk is more than enough evidence he is a fraud.  Any genuine tough guy looks forward to any opportunity to prove it, which Seagal has been offered many opportunities to do so.  

And the night Lyoto used that kick against Randy Couture was the first time he met Seagal.  Seagal merely verbally suggested he use it, he didn't TEACH him anything, it was Lyoto's father who taught him that kick.  Seagal working with Lyoto came later and as anyone can see it was an embarrassment.  Lyoto and Silva went along with it because they though Seagal may be able to open some doors into action films for them and not only that they are polite people, they don't want to hurt Seagal's feelings.  

As for Joe Rogan having a go at Seagal, that came about because Seagal openly suggested he knew far more about martial arts than Joe Rogan did.  Rogan being someone who displays his extensive martial arts knowledge on a regular basis during his role as color commentator for the UFC as well as being a genuine black belt in BJJ.

And none of this is relevant, you only need look at Seagal, his terrible acting, the fact he is morbidly obese, moves like a drunken walrus and has NEVER fought anyone in a sanctioned competition, and couple this with his constant talking up of himself, his constant lies (like that he has secretly been a police officer for twenty years or that that he is an adviser to several CIA agents or that he’d been a U.S. Navy SEAL and that he had been involved in  covert operations, or that while in Japan he fearlessly battled the Yakuza, or that he’s the reincarnation of a 17’th century Buddhist lama) to know that he is a full blown egomaniac incapable of telling the truth.  Anybody who lacks the intuitive ability to see through Steven Seagal is a poor judge of character indeed or has a pathethic mancrush or quite possibly a combination of the two. 

I agree,joe rogan is a fuckin black belt in tae kwon do and a legit brasilian jiu jitstu black belt under under eddie bravo.rogans way more knowladgable about MMA than seagal will ever be period,rogan as a matter of fact is one of the most knowledgable guys out there commentating,maybe bas rutten is better but that's it. ANSWER ME THIS U AIKIDO GUYS,WHY HASNT THE UFC EVER HAD A CHAMP THAT USES STRAIGHT UP AIKIDO? SERIOUS QUESTION,the ufc had Royce using bjj, oleg taktarov using sambo, mark coleman using wrestling ect but never a guy who said hes an AIKIDO PRACTICIONER,WHY? like I said serious question,better yet show me a guy who ever won a match using an AIKIDO move? im curious cause maybe I missed it and if their was one bring it to my attention
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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #223 on: October 09, 2014, 03:49:01 AM »
well said
how surprising ::) who do you like? you say Ben Affleck is a bad actor and has a shit body on another thread. Don´t tell me Arnold your Hero would sort Seagal out right?

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Re: Really Seagal...Really??
« Reply #224 on: October 09, 2014, 03:55:06 AM »
Well, it depends whose lies you are eager to believe, and as we know, any fucking lie is good enough for you guys. As story goes, Silva contacted Seagal and they met few times, Segal help him refine some movements, which is all true and just like Silva says in that interview. Everything else is deliberate misunderstanding and misrepresenting the matter, done by envy brats and haters like you. And lets see what that another MMA fighter, Lyoto Machida, says about the matter: "I train this kick a lot. I've had it in my arsenal, and I just had to wait for the right moment to pull the trigger and utilize it. The technique itself [Silva and I have] both known for a long time. But I definitely think Steven Seagal being involved and influencing us and helping us perfect the kick definitely made a difference....[Seagal] always reinforced that to me – to try that kick. 'That kick will land, and it will work.' I definitely give credit to him for helping me perfect that kick."

So is he saying that Seagal teach everything he knows about the martial arts, or do he tell that Seagal help him to perfect that kick? Of course you could blow that out of proportions by lying what ever comes to your pervert little mind, but there is always also the truth. Watch those videos what are available, and try to understand what there is going on.  Just keep on mind that Seagal is 62 years old, 6" tall and weights something like 350lb, so he is fat old guy. You don't see him doing cartwheels or jump kicks because he is too fat. 

You clearly get a hard-on when you can spread those rumors, which you believe like all other crap, without any thinking at all. In situation like Segall vs Lebell, who has everything to lose, and who has everything to gain?  Would you hear the absolute truth from the pitiful has been like Lebell, which just about no one even know who the fuck he is? Why Seagal would even start to play with the old bum like that? I bet it is just like Seagal says, it never happen. And what dozens of witnesses? Like those imaginary witnesses, who pop out from the woodwork to witness every fucking foil hat theory? How many dozen would fit in one trailer, where all of this happen? And why this is happening larger than life for you and the haters? Because there this fake martial artist meet his destiny, by the hands of the JUDO MASTER. So Aikido is fake martial art, and judo isn't? In fact, they are from same branch of the martial arts family three, both evolved from Japanese jujitsu at the same time. On the technical side, Aikido is rooted in several styles of jujitsu (from which modern judo is also derived), in particular daitoryu-(aiki)jujitsu, as well as sword and spear fighting arts. So it is just as fake as all of the martial arts, those which MMA has has born from.

 So, if it is marketing, who is marketing what? Did Silva and that another guy have a need to make fool out themselves by taping actor teaching them how to fight? Who gain and what in this marketing act? If Seagal is only part who would benefit from it, because these fighter has lost all their street credibility, why bother to kiss his ass? There has to be motive why these fighters let those videos spread all over the internet. What it would be? You can't answer, because you never think things that far. Truth is just as it has been said, Segal help them refine some of the movements, and they were quite happy for it, until Rogan and bunch of complete assholes start their crap throwing campaign. After Silva realize that his credibility is on the line, he start to take some distance about the matter.

Have you even watch that complete video? In that clip Seagal shows how to close the distance to the opponent in the way, which gives you the opportunity to use front kick straight from the step without stop or jump. This clip only prove that you are happy to eat all the crap what foil hat produce at the front of you, without any thinking at all.  If you watch the original video, you learn that Seagal is giving only some pointers, show few variations to concern, and no matter if you understand it or not, those pointers make sense. Problem with you guys is that you lack perspective, you lack the vision about the martial arts, because all you do in your life is sitting at the front of the computer screen and try to find things to hate. Do you even understand how sad that is?  ;D


Don´t waste your time explaining the history of Judo..they don´t know the Roots of any martial arts. Just throw around words like MMA and BJJ...  ::)